Clinically-Insane

Parents who are cruel to their children needs to go to the deepest layer of hell, straight to the boiler room or whatever worse there is.

I can bear neglectful and absent parents. They are distasteful human beings but not necessarily evil but to be cruel to a child and inflict him with the trauma of a sibling's death is evil of the highest order.
I wish the writing focused more on that than only the abandonment.

Oh. I just checked your profile and you have watched 849 shows! Your vast exposure to different fictional experiences eclipse mine by a large margin.
And yes, Signal and Ouroboros were as phenomenal as they were melancholic.

I have watched Arcane and Blue Eye Samurai and they are an absolute treat to watch.
I wouldn't dare to stain your impeccable taste with something light 😐
so what I can recommend in the dark detective (I don't know if it can called that) genre are Beyond Evil, Flower Of Evil, Signal, Stranger, Ouroboros, Strangers From Hell, Hannibal, True Detective (especially season 1), Fargo (season 1) and Sherlock.

Well, it's productive to filter out what you don't like and what your BF would mostly likely not enjoy. The good news is that we have the strength of diversity and the gift of abundance in the entertainment industry. You can enjoy that strength and gift with minimal endeavor, in any genre, with almost everything weaved in its plot.

4th year prof.

To start off with this show, after a break due to my prof exams, was in hind sight setting myself for another slump of saturation of Korean entertainment.
To be fair (to myself), I was more than "compelled" to watch this by my girlfriend because she appreciates a watching buddy but it so happens that this isn't my genre of enjoyment. I can count experiences of this genre on the fingers of my hands and still would be left with 2 or 3 to spare. So my opinion of how this genre tends to be predictable and uneventful isn't specifically a target criticism of this show but the overall market revolving around this genre especially Korean shows.

What I can extend my mind off to, in the realm of criticism, regarding this show is the reiteration of the frequently used plot devices and plot points. The childhood friends to romantic partners, one bringing in the baggage of another relationship and the other; a hopeless romantic who apparently is shown "normally" to have waited for more than a decade are troupes I can usually bolster myself upto when done extremely well but this show fails where majority does for me. So nothing new there.
I will own the fact that my mind, while watching fiction, thrives on unpredictability, uniqueness and shock value (amongst other important qualities). This show (or this genre generally) is mostly devoid of those qualities of importance for me but it isn't fair to expect something of value and different (specifically for this show) from a tried and attempted delineation which this show is doomed to follow and depict.

So the summary of my experience is that if you're the target demographic for this genre, than you'll enjoy it immensely (my girlfriend seems to do so) but if you're expecting something new or unique than in my humble opinion, this isn't the experience you're looking for. This, like many others in Korean dramaland, follows a preexisting map with touch of necessity here and there.

This comment section isn't just maliciously idiotic but also childishly stupid and that's a deadly combination to the pursuit of anything remotely perspicacious. An artist should only be defined by his art on a page about art and not by some sanctimonious blabbering fueled by malice and stupidity. He (or any artist) isn't some "idol" to me that I look up to (I find the concept grossly exaggerating and unhelpful). He's only an artist trying to entertain and that's the only relevant scale I can measure him up with; the quality of his art and the degree to which it entertains me.
People shouldn't have the right to dictate anything about his life except his art.

This world has become a flea bottom of people who are too dumb to know the value of forgiveness and too cruel to allow a struggling human being to right some wrongs.

Everyone is behaving like they haven't made a mistake or done something wrong all their lives.
Everyone is a Saint only when they see someone they can feel superiority over.

I just hope they find themselves surrounded by people, with some compassion and a lot of patience (unlike them), when life doesn't go their way and they find themselves in need of help rather than unhelpful judgement that reeks of blatant hypocrisy fueled by low intelligence or cruelity.


Anyway; I'm just frustratingly ranting at this point so I'll stop here.

Yes, he has broken the law and should be held responsible by the LAW, not some mob motivated by the misguided notion of moral responsibility and having limited exposure to information.

The ultra-moronic instinct to pass judgment when someone's down especially without any legally authoritative standpoint is regurgitating.

Yes he has done something he shouldn't have and there needs to be consequences demanded by the law but you or me are in no position, morally or authoritatively, to ruin his life based on something he has done to harm himself.

Okay, as little as I know, YAI is not legally punished or required to not work but is still pushed to be removed from the cast here by the general public?

I understand the necessity to legally punish the ones who break the law (whatever the law is in a country) but to be ganged up by the mob with no legal authority which certainly is damaging his career for nothing more than the juvenile need of people to feel the moral superiority is unethical at best and evil at worst.

The cancel culture was and is nothing more than willingly providing people with psychological and emotional bitterness the power to dictate the trajectory of people's lives.
Providing the general public the power of what the law was originally designed for was never a good idea. Even if we allow ourselves to be generous and consider 90% of the population to be morally good and ethically responsible, there is still at the least 10% (enough to ruin a person life) of the general public who are too dangerous or too stupid to dictate why and how a person should be held responsible.

I'm neither currently watching this nor is the genre my favourite but I saw the cameo of Vincenzo on YouTube and that was really well done as far as cameos go.
They actually utilised his character and not just the actor's popularity.

What the fuc..ng hell!
There are 102.7k comments on a drama that hasn't even aired yet! Either all of you are crazy or damn persistent.
I hope it airs just for the sake of all the people waiting.

No.

It's not only that but he just stopped where he was, as an individual, for nearly a decade and the plot seemed to stress that it was a noble sacrifice whereas it came across to me as unrealistic and irrelevant to the "love story"

Exactly.
I didn't focus on the unhealthy part as the story came across as a caricature of unrealistic imagination rather than genuine storytelling that could make me care about the character's wellbeing or pain.

@Armadillo1mil That's not very nice of you and I wrote that comment in the hope to come across as constructively critical, not insane but I'm fine with your opinion too.

English is my third language, so do pardon if anything is misinterpreted by me or if I didn't properly convey my point across.
and you're welcome.

It's surprising, to say the least, that complaining about the character structure in fiction that seems to mimic real life is viewed as something like making sense of godzilla. Godzilla was set up in a universe that had pre written rules to it and the story follows through with that. It made sense for godzilla to destroy that many buildings because the writer set it up for that. The character structure is within the boundaries of what the writer deemed realistic in that universe. Now the character structure I'm complaining about is bounded by the same set of values and emotions that we posses. It isn't godzilla destroying buildings that I compare my reality to but to a fictional human character that is set up to exist in the same reality as I do. So it's illogical to defend convenient lazy characterization of this show with example as bizarre as yours.

The argument in your first paragraph is either based upon your exposure to limited cinema or convenient ignorance. The cinematic world wasn't built upon delusions of reality or wish fulfilment for a certain demographics. Cinema always has and every writer, worth his salt, always will hope to portray realisticly digestible characters. Their setting maybe in a fantastical world or not but at the core of the story is emotions and values (which we see around us) of the characters that drives the story. Those emotions and values of different characters are portrayed very realistically (atleast the good stories do).


Now what I agree with is the fact that the romance genre from Korea is built upon a formula that's far too unrealistic but fulfilling enough for a certain demographics. They have a target audience and I made the mistake to forget that I'm not one of them.

P.S. I won't be able to reply again. I enjoyed reading your comment.

The male leads' characterizations are unrealistic fantasy of imagination at best and at worst; a delusional take on what human beings are truly at their best in a relationship and what constitutes a fully functional conscious being outside the confines of fanatical attachment to the deluded idea of romanticism.
There I said it.

It's not realistic to stop living (in its true sense) for nearly a decade in the name of "love".

Now it's not fair or logical to counter that criticism by saying I would prefer to see a toxic character since the ML is a "green flag"(I don't even know what that means anymore).
I'm actually not concerned with the spectrum of what constitutes a "green flag" and a "red flag". I'm more interested in the characterization of characters and how well are they embedded in reality and from where I stand, the male characters are written from the lens of imaginative romanticism rather than realistic approach towards human emotive individualism and its co-relevance with time.

But at the same time I'm fine if someone likes this approach. It's a free world (fingers crossed) and everyone is free to hate or love a virtual fiction experience.

I wouldn't have commented just because I was disappointed with the plot and the characterization of characters (romance genre have been doing that a lot) but what really intrigues me is the fact that the male leads in the recent korean dramas are written to be ridiculously monotonous and unrealistic romanticists.
My girlfriend insistence usually brings me to this genre but I am reminded time and time again that I'm not the target audience for this. The male characters in this genre are reduced to the romance part only and not utilised as a fully fledged human beings with multiple human interactions, relationships, goals and ambitions. It's either a jerk CEO who hates everyone around him with minimal personality or a pitiful being with no wish to build something for himself.
The ML and SML seemed to have spent 8 years waiting for someone without even putting an effort to move on. I mean, what the hell is that supposed to even contribute to the storytelling except reducing characters to nothing more that fanatics with no realistic approach whatsoever.
My point being; the focal point for characters seems to be the female counter part and that's not how real life works. It's extremely difficult to like or relate to characters that represent nothing at all.
Anyway that how I feel.

P.S. The acting is well done.