Jairen

If you're thinking about not forgiving as a form of revenge, that's the wrong mentality. Withholding forgiveness shouldn't be a weapon to get even. If you cannot genuinely and sincerely forgive, then I can understand that. We all have different experiences that shape our empathy and leniency. It will depend person to person.

Personally, I think Yan has had a long time to reflect on her decision even if he didn't fully understand it. From her personality and just the struggle she's been through, he's smart and emotionally aware enough to know she had her reason.

See, what you're saying here is different from getting revenge. It's fine if you think he shouldn't have forgiven her as easily. That's an opinion. I disagree with it but we all different personalities and level of being able to forgive. However, your original post was about plotting to hurt her in the same way and being spiteful, which I disagree with.

That's not a choice made out of spite, though. I think Layla already explain it well enough that Yifan was dealing with a lot. It's fine if you want to hold her choice against her and be mad about it, but that doesn't mean it's right to get revenge for it.

She very much realized his value. To her, he deserved the best and she didn't think she was that. All her life, her family has made her feel like she had little value. Instead of making her feel more like shit, it's better to help remind her that she deserves the best too.

Also, I don't think that's a good mindset on how to measure love. It's very petty and calculating. One side may love the other more, there doesn't need to be a balance. You give what you can into the relationship. You're right in that she shouldn't run away, but that's fixed with reassurance and reminder that she deserves happiness. Not with pettiness.

Yeah, personally, even if we're talking about a fictional character, they represent the qualities and experiences of a real person. She represent a real woman out there in some or many of the aspects. It's fine we can't relate to the personality or decisions, but we should still be able to empathize with her and her trauma. And if we're able to empathize with her, it's hard for me to understand how one could hate with her. I can understand hating a choice but not the person as a whole.

There was a scene that I remember where after she was attacked, she comforted the wife and child of the attacker. I think that's where I feel in love with her. She's strong, she's smart, she's gentle, and she's kind. To me, she's easy to love.

She definitely stood up for herself multiple times. Examples of her defending herself that you might have missed: She stood up for herself when she was harassed at work. She also stood up for herself when her job was on the line due to gossip. She stood her ground against her aunt/mom as an adult.

Very strong character. Yifan protected herself in a world that's been so cold to her. She deserves all the love and warmth that is Yan.

As far as I can remember, no SA. It's a much lighter/fluffy series. I think the biggest issues were stalking/harassment and just financial hardship. But nothing of the sexual nature.

Hidden Love is about Sang Yan's sister Sang Zhi and his best friend Duan Jiaxu.

I love Yan, but there were definitely moments where he was childish/immature/cheeky. I think it's because there a bad connotation associated with certain words that people having a problem with, so they get defensive. But yeah, Yan has a proud personality so there are going to be moment where he reacts more childishly. Actually, this is portrayed better in HL with his sister. It's not as over the top here but you can still see that aspect of his personality.

3 is "san", 4 is "si"
520 has meaning of "I love you"

I kinda of want to add an additional comment as several replies here mentioned obsession. Repeated behavior, longing, and holding onto the past are all a form of obsession. Obsession doesn't always have to be dangerous or a bad thing though. It can just stem from loss/grief of someone you love. I recommend "Oh No! Here Comes Trouble", a series I really like that touch upon obsession. Yeah, just wanted to make that plug as I thought of that series as I read some of these replies. Not really disagreeing with anything anyone said since the consensus seems to be the same aside from the flexibility on definition of stalker. xD I'll hide this one in spoiler as it not really important. Just me yapping.

I think there's a lot of factors that determine the acceptability of stalking in these series, and those factors may change depending on the viewer. For me, it's about intent as you mentioned, comfort (sense of security), and boundaries. Policemen stalk. Fans stalk. Friends stalk. And yes, predators stalk. But they're not all equal or bad. There was never really a point while watching where I thought Sang Yan's behavior warranted concern because aforementioned factors. But yes, true, he was stalker.

520 has the meaning of "i love you"

Ultimately, that will depend on your preferences. This is a slow burn romance and not as light/fluffy as Hidden Love. The tone is very different. However, I think there are lots of great emotions and sweet moment. I enjoyed the story, acting, and cinematography. Personally, I would say yes as I liked this better than HL, but it's something you'll have to try out for yourself.

Just wanted to say I couldn't stop smiling while Yan was trying to propose. It was so real how nervous he was and how kind of imperfect the proposal was as he fumbled with the music box. Idk, but I really appreciated that. It feels more authentic and relatable. =)

Friendly reminder that oranges are not the only fruit. :o This comment is just here to hide my spoiler comment below, please dont read if you're still watching :D

I really like that scene of her walking away from her mother (the past) and towards Yan (her future, who is waiting for her) :D

Put this in spoilers cause I am about to yap =)

In quantum physics, there is pretty well known thought experiment known as "Schrödinger's cat" or the "cat in the box paradox". It proposed a scenario where a cat is placed into a box with some mechanic that would randomly kill at some point. Until the box is opened and the cat is observed, it is considered to be in a state of superposition, meaning it is both alive and dead at the same time. It's considered a paradox because we as people know that it's EITHER alive or dead, not both.

Naturally, when it comes to the scandal and most people will either want to side with the victim or remain neutral until there is more info or an official verdict is made. The reason I brought up the thought experiment is to make a point about presuming innocence. It is common sense that someone is either innocent or guilty, not both. However, when it comes to due process, depending on the case, it's somewhat of a paradox. Choosing to presume one side's innocence also doesn't automatically presume the other side's guilt. Both sides can be presumed as innocent at the same time until the box is opened (aka, a verdict is made). A person should always take a SA case seriously. Show support and help advocate for justice.

But at the same time, this can be achieved without immediately villainizing the other party involved until there is concrete evidence. It's unfortunate, but we live in a world where people are very easily able to accuse other, so I understand why some people want to be cautious about picking sides. At the end of the day, as netizens, we know nothing about these people and are only consuming what the media gives us. I'm not saying to assume they are lying. Like I said, take it seriously. However, there is no need to get out your pitchforks or starting throwing tomatoes at the accused until things are more clear. Just focus on the victim and supporting them. As mentioned, there will be bias based on personal experience so it's harder said than done. Anyway, that's just my thought on all these comments regarding the scandal.

Back on topic about the series. Ultimately, for me, this series would've been a 9 or 9.5 rating, but I'm giving it an 8.5 now because of this mess. In an ideal world, who an actor is outside of their character would not matter, but the human brain is far from ideal. Our brain makes connections and sadly, scandals like this does affect enjoyment for some people. With that said, an 8.5 from me is still good. I still acknowledge the hard work the other casts and crew put in. It's still a good series and I still think it's worth a watch. But I understand why some might hesitate now.

Yeah, I think that's a good example of how personal experience shapes how much we able to relate to the characters. I don't think it's an age thing though, just personality and experience ultimately.