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Guys. Not even JC pleased everybody.

EVIL CACKLES I WAS RIGHT ABOUT TAK BUT OOOOOH MAN EPISODE 18 NAILED IT
Except for that disgusting and uncalled for display of affection.
BUT OOOOOOOOH MAN I NEED AIR

Oh, we're in different generations here, so I get why that doesn't appeal to you at all. Besides, everything changes when there's kids involved. Most rom coms I watch are about young couples, younger or around the same age I'm at, I have yet to watch the mature ones. And while I haven't experienced any of that, you seem to be tired of it, I don't know which situation is worse in my point of view. That talk about "me time" keeps me wondering that married couples only learn to appreciate how good it was being alone, all the more reason I don't like that idea at all though I fancy the idealistic romance ideas of caring for each other and all that.
But I can say from watching my parents that romance in their context would be making time for them, going out on dates and being more thoughtful to each other's needs and personal issues. But my father was a cheater from the start, all he did was demand and complain about everything and stand in the way of everyone's happiness. It wasn't until everyone left home that my mom finally started to get sick of his inconsiderate bullshit and decided to leave him to rot like he deserves. There was no partnership between them at all and he felt like a stepfather I despised. There's nothing I can say on that matter though since I don't have your experience. Perhaps you're the happy one since you had it so much you also had the chance to get sick of it. I'm jealous. As for my mom, she still swoons over silly romances at 56.

Sister, I don't really see how that's different from my view. I said I don't believe they're happy as I wish I'm wrong. Isn't that the same? I'm also hopeful whenever I see a couple that appears to be living smoothly and working through their relationship. It's heartwarming. That's just until I find out that's just a show they're putting on. Nothing makes me my eyes sparkle more than when I see a couple of elders being cute together, awww, that's the most adorable thing. And though a voice in my head whispers they're faking it, I fight it back considering all the things they must've overcome together, y'know?
Teen couples with all their sickening lovey dovey are also cute but it's like watching a car speeding up against a rock mountain because, unavoidably, their expectations and fantasies will crumble down eventually. Not always, of course, some marry their first love but if they're happy that way is another story entirely.

And I couldn't agree more. In the end, all things are down to how we were brought up as a child. I keep pondering about it. I have two brothers and one sister, I'm the youngest, yet we were all raised together, the same way. And from my parents' troubles while my brothers seem to have taken for a mission to be a good father/husband, me and my sister got damaged and can't seem to trust men/relationships. My sister's bolder and stronger than me so she takes risks. Also, she fears being alone while I'm aware we live and die alone so I'm cool about my current status while she isn't. But she doesn't take crap from men either, hence why she broke off two marriages and a third engagement. I'd rather not lose than take my chances at winning - I play it safe. It's like that Kelly Clarkson's song. XD

So maybe it sounded as though I was favouring women but I'm aware they can be even more dangerous than men. Sadly I'm guilty for being feminist and defending them even when they don't deserve it but I'm also aware of that and I trying to fix it. I also know there are good men out there, not all of them are wolves but it's also hard for me to accept that for personal reasons. As you said, historically, culturally, socially, men's cheating habits get justified for them but not women's and this is why I don't buy this "equality" talk. Not that I want women's cheating to be praised, I want men's cheating to be condemned like it should so people's values don't get even more spoiled than they are. Like Timbone chingu said previously, these days people get married too easily counting on getting a divorce in case it doesn't work out, without thinking twice about family values and consequences around them. But now I feel like I'm drifting away from the main topic here. orz

Oh my God, chingu. *pets* :c

Aw, good to know I'm not alone. <3

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA True, true. I meant generally. And regarding romance because sex is a lot easier to get.

Instead of thinking we are picky, I say we petition for guys to live up to our expectations a tiny bit more. WTH, girls, where's feminism at? Why must we always be the ones giving in? If guys want a nympho Pussycat Doll for a girlfriend, why must we settle for the beer drinking ball scratching good for nothing arses out there? Nonsense!

Oh God, I love this. HAHAHAHAHAHA I also think some things are over the top but the caring male is heart melting. Like... being conscious of your ankles bruised by those heels you wore to impress and offering a piggy back ride even if you think it's embarrassing and you won't accept it in the end... isn't that desirable? Or giving you his coat because that dress makes you look great but it isn't warm. Or cooking together carelessly, drying your hair, surprising you with little yet meaningful things every now and then, holding you close under the umbrella or even giving it to you. There's a scene I saw - can't recall where - where the guy throws away his umbrella just to squeeze himself under his lover's. That was way adorable and I squealed like a 13 year old. XD What about standing up for you when you're being looked down at? Or simply take you away from your comfort bubble to take walks in the middle of the night (I love night time but it's dangerous to go out alone, so...). I don't know, there are several minor things that make my heart flutter. But several others make my eyes roll too so I get what you mean. I guess I'd settle for a caring and funny husband who's cut out to be a great father and loves dogs. Must love dogs. u_u' But that seems to be too much to ask already. lol

We're doomed. Whoever's not coming out is raising the "forever alone" flag.

First things first, I love this post and every word in it. You are right from top to bottom, bae.

In times like this, be it Valentine's Day or Christmas, we - the single ones - are prone to feel lonely since these moments are focused on those who have a significant other hence everyone seems to be happily adjusted with their partners, giving us the impression we're the only losers left on the face of this Earth. (I relate to what you describe.) Nonetheless, dramaworld brings a lot of crap into our expectations indeed. Everything is so pink colored. Even their quarrels are beautiful, with tear shedding and reasoning, not to mention all the self sacrifice. But we know in reality things don't work clockwise. Oh, no. People are selfish liars with a bigger or lesser sex obsession. To put it on general terms, men seem to gauge a relationship's worth by the amount of game he's getting while women tend to be obsessing with "Is he cheating me yet?" or completely ignore their partner's needs while they try to get pregnant to fulfill their own.

I can't really say much since I've never had a relationship and the only time I wanted one was when I was 11 and still believed in prince charming. Ever since, through observation, I watched all the colours fade away to give room to shades of grey. My parent's marriage was a joke, my sister's almost married a third time before 30 and only my brothers seem to be doing okay. Guess only girls get the traumas from their father's slips. Well.

I swoon over those ficticious and flourishing romances brought to us in K-dramas but I never fail to notice all the aspects you mentioned. Sometimes I wonder how come I've never bumped into my soulmate yet since I'm 25 and not getting any younger. If it happens to everyone on the screen then... why not me? I'm not sitting here waiting for a hot alien to move next door (though I secretly hope that shit happens XD) but I'm not regretting anything either. Because I know real life isn't supposed to be sweet. If it was, damn, we wouldn't eat up these dramas like Valiums.

I don't know how it goes in Korea but in my country guys don't give a crap to feelings, aye? I could cry my eyes out in front of my father and brothers - which happened - and be laughed at, let alone some random stranger. If you're not hot, no one will look at you twice. But my point is... all that secret sharing or whatever that brings the leads close... that just doesn't happen. I have no clue how to make a relationship work or even what 'work' stands for. As women see it around here, to get a man you must be ready to fulfill all his expectations and accept unfaithfulness until death makes you part. That's it. Nothing's demanded from guys, not really. People still say "But he didn't beat you up so he was a good husband." Oh, c'mon! So humiliation is okay? What good is to share a bed with a stranger who can't even tell if you're dead or alive? If you really don't care about his nights out or if you're quietly bleeding inside? I'd rather be alone than go through that crap because... I just don't believe in marriage. At all. And I don't believe anyone who claims to be happily married by love and all that bullshit. But what do I know? I don't even believe in love since I never felt it. I just keep dreaming about the butterflies and sparkles but none of that seems realer to me than Easter Bunny or Santa alas I'm a big fan of fiction.

Sorry if this is depressing. XD And if I sound bitter, perhaps I am, but only because I wish those were real, that people only married out of love and all those bonds were magical but I only got reality shoved down my throat, which is very sad. However, I don't try to convince people to see it like I do because - Hell! - I wish I could see it like them! I'm like that kid that can't reach Neverland anymore and is sulking outside while watching the entrance with longing in her eyes. HAHAHAHAHAHA Eotteokhae! OTL

With all that said I'll die a virgin and single for life. I'd rather fantasize my whole life than settle for some f*cked up pain in neck real "romance" that's very likely to be a torment. People keep nagging me about the boyfriend I'm not getting, asking me when I'll get married and spreading rumours about my sexual orientation but if I do get a boyfriend for f*ck's sake they'll start tormenting me about not going out with him more, or bringing him around, or how I'm mean and cold when he's such a sweetheart, or when are we having a baby and what not. Geez, I don't need that crap. If it's not magical, then what's the point? I'd rather take another ride on that rollercoaster to make my heart race alright.

I don't believe that one can't be happy alone. Whoever said that is profiting from Valentine's Day. Besides... screw flowers and diners out, man. I ain't got time with all these dramas to watch. B)

"with divorce so easy people will keep trying to trade up instead of working at relationships."

This. Bless you for bringing that up, friend.

Woah. Episode 16 was... confusing to say the least. Is it me or things are happening way too fast? It felt heavy, fast and superficial. But, on a side note, I'm glad Dong Ho's being locked up instead of buried. ;; I was so positive he was going to be killed that I was actually surprised by the turn of events this time. Seems way off though, like something that wasn't planned and they just threw out there? A last minute plot change perhaps? Everything happened so damn fast I could hardly feel the emotions in all that. I'm upset. :c NOT TO MENTION THE ACHING PAIN FEARING IL HO WILL BUY THE JUDGE TOO AND SCREW THIS UP!!!! Again.

Oh, by the way, I was right, right? About Prosecutor Tak! *-* He's just faking it, that little rascal. Such a relief. ;;

And on a shallow and completely off topic note: Why isn't anyone talking about Judge Seok Gyu and his gorgeousness? Youngest judge I've ever seen lol but... I wish he had a bigger part to play in this. Not only because his face amazes me but because he's been wronged back then, pushed aside and unable to fight against it on his own? And he's a good professional who's touched by the original case and sees things as they are. He should be the one to end that trial imo but instead they kept using him like a random joker they pull out from time to time.

The people above are amazing and know stuff. Truth has been spoken.

My liver aches at the mere idea but I love it. XD Bottoms up!

Oh, in that case, we're on the same boat here. I also want justice to be served, of course, and that alone is happy enough because we're well aware things don't always work in favour of the good. By bad ending I meant the default "happy" ending most people expect whenever a female lead is involved. Honestly, I don't see any romance there. It's like In Ah likes him alone for no reason (I mean, to fall for someone you must be also attracted to them and that just doesn't seem right? She isn't that old nor is he that young but when put together the gap between them seems huge. When I look at Jinwoo I see a child) and since there's 0 chemistry there, I look at them as brothers instead. I completely ignore the original idea and I don't give a flying f**k. =u=

This is adorable, oh my God. I read it on my way here and now I'm trying to recall a happy moment... does those memorable (two) times Jinwoo towered over Gyu Man count? The great "We'll meet again in court when I bring you to stand trial." and the last minutes of episode 15. Ooooh man. I don't even like that kid a lot but that was heartwarming. Now... I don't know if I can't fully appreciate his relationship with his father because I've never had a r/s with mine but they didn't touch me. It looks childish and utopic to me. I don't think I'm hardened in any way though because, contrarywise, I always cry like a baby when the plot concearns father/son/daughter relationship for that same reason. XD Like... I almost literally cried my eyeballs out watching "I am Sam" (the movie with Sean Pean) and just... any movie that has a good father involved. LOL how melo of me, I must go.

You are so cute I almost feel bad for hoping for a bad ending. :( But I still want it. For the sake of my love for this drama, that is needed. I mean... this is real and reality does not forgive the kind hearted. They could carry on the type of "The Notebook"'s ending or something. Melo, sad but fairly alright. Not much they can do about that unless they bring an unicorn in the story. Happy endings are way overrated in my opinion. It's not that I hate them I just... don't need to see them every freaking where. When I want that kind of fluff I seek for the RIGHT type of drama and I started watching this show KNOWING I was in for deep shit so how come people still hit the brickwall of ignorance and insist in coming here to poop through their mouths? That's just... really tiring.

Oh, God, yes!!! Thank you for this, Luna. I don't get where people see evil? A little (lot) manipulative, yes, but that's just his complex with controlling everything? It's his very own (weird, yes, but good intentioned) way of protecting her. On a side note, it also seems he's trying to drive her near him instead. Manipulating things from the background perhaps to test her or to lead her closer to him, to make her understand how he feels and all that. It might seem like an evil plan but he's not trying to drive her away from her real friends. I always see the good intention behind his actions. What evil are people even talking about?

Oh, dear God, my heart vibrated reading this for some reason. XD Thank you, you are right in every point except - imo ofc - Gyu Man. Well, of course I may be biased because I think he is one exceptional actor but... I think if he was always treated badly by his father that ought to have damaged him. And he does have anger management issues so he explodes whenever he feels cornered/frustrated and what not. There is a line the way I see it. To the right, is his violent behavior, an illness. To the left, there's him humiliating people for fun - that's just him being an extreme brat whose had no limits set all his life meaning he's just a spoiled asshole with too much power in hands and with a God complex plus the fact he's a rapist. That's also a condition, as I see it, objectifying women. They represent no value to him, not even his own sister, so I wonder where did that come from though there's no story about his mother, sadly. I miss that point in background support for his character so I can clearly see why you think that way. However I feel like if he was given that kind of attention he would become the main lead in this show because... who the heck in Jinwoo again? He's not only annoying and whiny, he's boring to the bone. And high-five, I'm in love with Dong Ho and I perk up whenever he shows up. ( OT: I've been mimicking the way he speaks for the past few days non-stop. XD) It was love at first sight.
What's funny is that although I agree with you by 98%, I still love it for other reasons and I'd love to explain them all to you too but I can't seem to put the words together and that makes me feel silly. HAHAHAHA I'm glad you're hooked because of Dong Ho though. That happened to me watching KMHM. I almost dropped it because of the utterly annoying and vomit indulcing female lead but the male lead had me hooked 'til the end... and I'm rambling.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. All that makes perfect sense to me so I'm relieved. XD