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That was my first time seeing her in a drama so I can't tell you much except she yells way too much and way too loud all the freaking time? And that's absurdly annoying. I didn't pay much attention to her after that bad start so I can't really say if she overdid it or not. KMHM was all about JiSung to me and for that I'd recommed you'd give it a try.

He confirmed! <3

I dunno about chemistry but it only gets good after the 5th episode or so? I was bored at start too. Not one of my fave dramas but it was good imo. Might be biased since I love law themed dramas but... :<

I almost dropped Kill me, Heal me thanks to the lead actress. Only picked it up a month or two later and forced myself on because it's so popular and I was like "Why?". Despite her obnoxiousness and the magic tattoo, I loved it. Not for accuracy (psychologically, lol) but for Ji Sung's abilities, mostly.

Omo, glad to know someone took the time to read my essay and even like it. XD
I appreciate your honesty. In fact, there you have the whole reason why I got into kdramaland as well: the cute, unrealistic romance. I was completely drawn to how thoughtful and caring and respectful guys seemed, without the whole sexual tension present in 10 out of 10 western romance themed anything. It was refreshing and I still love it. But after watching several dramas of the sort, some things get harder to endure and just have me rolling my eyes instead of enjoying it such as: "Oh, there she goes getting drunk for stupid reasons and there goes the guy to the rescue." A variation of that I saw in Pinnochio when Yoo Rae gets drunk and ends up at the entrance building so her boss carries her inside and simply tucks her in with newspaper or something? I thought that was absurdly cute and a lot more realistic as I see it. Not to mention MND, when Jan Di carries Ki Tae instead. That had me howling. hahahaha
Now... the longing stares sometimes bother me. Kissing a girl's lips while she's asleep? That creeps the heck out of me tbqfh. An injured lead taking first aid from the other? Oh, please. It's just a papercut, people! u_u I guess... I'm not a whiny teen so if a guy - hot as he was - got all touchy and overreacting about me scraping my knee I'd be all like "Dude! Get real! It's just a bloody scratch, what are you so worked up about?" And if I woke up to his face too close to mine I'd just punch him away, what the actual scare I'd have. And all that overprotective thing can go overboard to...
Guy: "Don't get hurt without my permission."
Me: .... lmao
I swoon over other things instead. To mention Pinnochio again, when the girl's offered sneakers in exchange for her heals bruising her ankles now THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. Heels are a nightmare, man. u_u Or... I don't know... Personal Taste. When he went to buy her tampons. HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm such a noona, oh my God! Shoot me. OTL
The grab and drag seems okay too but the whole act on "Don't even breathe around another man" is a turn off to me. It seems like the next step is domestic abuse. :c I like a little dominance here and there too but woah! Sometimes they overdo it so badly.
Those overconfident guys too... nah. I'd rather the goofy/clumsy romance where he gets all weird around her, trying to do nice things and screwing up, all the cutesy. apdksokapwkpos ; u ; And the whole "Why is my heart beating so fast around him?" thing is also unsettling for me like... lol are you asking because you don't know? Can anyone really be that thick? Just... nope.
One cute example is Angry Mom, the little noona love going on there really had me "Awing" my way into doom. T-T HSKOS too though most people seem to be uncapable to deal with an "ugly" lead. I absolutely adore her for not changing until the very last episode. I'm in love with that show for being different and adorable. About Love was also a cute special that made me bite my knuckles for Kevin, I order you and Producers too. The silliest it seems, the cuter it is to me.

I didn't get you wrong, I don't mean argumentation as a fight but merely defending your point. When someone says they don't like something I usually ask "why". No reasons behind it don't convince me and since I never forget the reasons why I hate a show because those impressions are usually bigger on me than those of the shows I love, I'm keen on questioning people. I could really explain point by point why I hate a show and fail trying to defend a show I love the most because, since it touches me somehow, I can be very vague in my arguments just like you did here.
I respect your opinion, never said I didn't. What I mean is the lack of arguments make it lose credibility as an article to me but if you're saying it's a personal one then it's alright. I didn't mean to criticize you or anything, sorry if it seemed that way. I was just ranting about my frustration while reading reviews and comments out and about MDL. ^^' And I remember stating somewhere that I didn't mean you at all?

I just realized I forgot to mention Liar Game... how could I forget to mention Liar Game? *insert desperate laughing fit here*

Alas, I've wasted all my stamina on the previous comment. XD

I like posts like this one. I, myself, have a few popular dramas on my UGHlist but before I get to them, I need to comment on your post, of course.

I haven't watched Reply 97 yet but I already disagree with your "point" when you say there's no story behind it. Not everything has to have something major going on. I believe it's a style. The whole "Reply" and "School" series are about that, correct me if I'm wrong. I watched School 2003 though (for Woobin and Sukkie, ngl) and although it came out to be very boring to me, I stuck to it and I even found it in my heart to like it because I understand that is a matter of style. I mean... Slice of life dramas are boring? Damn... I wonder why you watch all these dramas. lol I mean... how's your life? Adventurous? Life's boring on my side so I seek for adventure through all these characters. I'm not very into those kinds of dramas either, don't get me wrong, but I cannot accept that for an argument even if I haven't watched it yet.

As for Master's Sun, I didn't even know it was that popular. I watched it without many expectations. I adore Gongie (she was adorbs in this one), not so into Jisub (he seems to be the same in every drama...) but I found it entertaining and funny. Not great, not terrible either. It was... just another okay drama to me.

YWCFTS though... it made it to my top favorite dramas. Flaws? It has way too many. I was completely irked by the way he suddenly fell in love with a shallow stupid woman and several several several other things. Unlike you, I'm not really into the cheesy stuff so I overlook that alright. It was just... really funny. One of the funniest dramas I've ever watched and when I finished I was like "Wah, I get why it's so popular". I'm not saying it's a masterpiece in a general aspect but when it comes to comedy I would say so. You say it's not different... perhaps it isn't but it was to me. I don't know how many dramas you've watched but I haven't watched anything remotely similar. I'm so sick of the good girl type playing hard to get so the silly thick actress doing all kinds of things and embarrassing herself really made me crack up. SooHyun was quite a charm there too and other minor characters and scenes also made my days better with a good laugh. XD

Summing up, you were really vague in your "argumentation" so I can't really discuss anything here, I'm just stating my opinion. I love it that you mentioned Angry Mom though because YES - I love that drama and it's soooo underrated. Perhaps because many clueless people take it for a comedy and get all "EW it's so melodramatic". Well, obviously? Try to read the tags before watching a show!, aish... those comments piss the Hell out of me. If you don't get the style then don't say a word about it, not everything's the same. A style is a style and people should understand that for Christ's sake and my own. =_='

Now, to the dramas I can't stand that everyone seems to love:

1) My top UGH drama: BOYS BEFORE FLOWERS (K-version)
Honestly.... what is even okay about that drama? The girl is soooooooooooo annoying and I don't know if the actress screwed up or who did but she was meant to be strong? What happened that she became a helpless puppy all of a sudden? And just which victim of bullying falls in love for their aggressor? LOL That shit just doesn't happen, get the fuck out. I was so utterly pissed by that fact alone that I'm impressed I didn't drop it. I generally dislike the rich guy/poor girl concept but they seem to be the X-factor in ALL k-dramas, ever. Sighs. Not much we can do other than overlook it. I kept on watching it for the second couple and I wasn't even graced with a simple peck. I was utterly upset and raged away in my review which got hated in return. XD Oops.

2) WHITE CHRISTMAS - I won't even.... go there. LOL There's nothing right about that drama to me. They threw so many great talents into a pot, added water and forgot the salt hoping the result would be good but it was... just something with a promise to be terrific while being different that just did not work out. I don't get people saying it was a masterpiece, smart, a work of art... honestly? I was so unimpressed and could hardly keep my eyes open (and I'm a sucker for psychological themes!). The music was great, so was the vibe, but they messed up hardcore and shat all over my skyscrapping expectations. :( Darn... I went there. Oh well.

3) THE HEIRS - Woah. Where do I begin? Again, poor girl/rich guy. I love PSH but not even that helped me from wishing to stab Eunsang over and over again. There is no character I hate the most. What a tasteless, annoying little shit! Honestly. Let's not talk about Kim Tan. Other than looks, what did he have? The rich guy with a rebel phase, oh, spare me! Why did Youngdo like Eunsang in the first place? That so called attitude of hers? Ew. If that's considered an attitude then I'm Satan. All the other kids were annoying too. I finished this for... you guessed, Woobin. Youngdo is the kind of character I like: the soft asshole. And with those scary eyebrows, Woobin was the perfect match. XD I'm also a lover of the bromance going on between him and Myungsoo. But that's all. I remember I was very excited to start another drama ft LMH back then but ended up hating the main couple's guts.

4) PLAYFUL KISS - Just another obnoxious little girl in the lead role. Everyone's trying too hard to be funny and failing miserably. I dropped it. (I watched the anime years ago though and enjoyed it a lot.)

5) HEARTSTRINGS - Wow this is boring to the core. Not even cutie Minhyuk could make me finish this one.

6) PRETTY BOY - Is it popular? I don't know. But it's ranked #173 on MDL and I find that to be way too high for the tasteless crap this drama is. Sadly. Dropped it.

I got carried away like usual. XD Well, let's stop here by saying I don't believe the "I hate all that's popular"/"All I love is underrated". No one can possibly be that narrow minded, c'mon. As previously stated, my favorite dramas are a mix of popular and non popular shows and from different styles too. I try not to hold on to the details so much as long as the whole thing entertains me somehow. I don't expect romance in a thriller and a dense plot in a slice of life. I keep my expectations grounded to what which style has to offer. I see many people hating on a few dramas or defending others while lacking arguments. Too many bad words or standing ovations and few reasons behind it. If I'm to be serious about watching dramas, I can find 1001 flaws in every single one of them starting by the way they direct it but I'd rather sit back and enjoy it. I only drop dramas when it has nothing to hold onto. I only dropped 3 so far and those are all the dramas I really don't understand. Others were poorly rated by me but I have no reason to hate them, they were just... poor. I try to be the least biased in my reviews but my rate is my own, I don't cling onto the minor details as long as the whole is enjoyable but so many people (I don't mean you at all, I mean thoughtout my experience here on MDL) bash on/defend something/someone so blindly it tests my patience. Alas, people should understand different opinions but also keep an open mind to those who have arguments opposing to their perspective.

Most societies are shallow. Most people love the poor girl/rich guy concept, the cheesy stuff (as if they're anything but fiction), the drunk/pigback ride/accidental kiss among many other clichés that appear in all those romance comedies. I'm sick of them and "most" people should respect that. I swallow them, I overlook them or else I wouldn't be able to like romance comedies at all but I'd rather not to see those anymore. Also, I like my own clichés too and I respect people who hate them. I love characters made in shades of grey because that's how we are. Nobody's is a bloody saint as they make it in those chick lits. And all those chaebol heirs falling in love with brokelings? C'mon. Fiction. That doesn't happen. You know how poor girls climb their ways into high society? They spread their legs in hopes that'll work. Or they go get it by other means that doesn't include men. That... That's what I want to see. I understand why people love it though but all the defending is tiring mostly because whenever they don't see romance in a drama they start saying nonsense about it as if it's a bad thing to differ from their taste, you know? Please. I like pretty much anything and give everything a chance. You can take that from my list I'm no hater. When I dislike something I have at least 3 good arguments to defend my point. I just wish everyone else did too before vomiting nonsense. To Hell with the childish tantrums and the sentence "I just don't like it". There is no such thing.

Peace out everyone! Too much time wasted here already. ;*

Why is this woman with ZERO facial expression acting instead of me? I'm so pissed.

No matter how I look at him, I have no clue on why people worship Won Bin's looks like they do. I don't see such "gorgeousness" people claim he has. Even Sung Joong ahjussi looks hotter than him and Won Bin wouldn't even make it to my top 20 hottest Korean actors. Not that he's unattractive, but after hearing so much about him in dramas I got curious and this... this is like tasteless bread crumbs to me. :( Nonetheless, I was expecting way too much... an utopic elvish beauty that glows in the dark, perhaps. XD

The bad thing about action thrillers is that they're often so poorly directed. And whatever happened to Jung Moon's stabbed back? He hops in the van and "Let's go have some hangover soup"??!?! Hello? There's a severely injured man in the backseat, what are you doing?!?! Or that's how things were supposed to be. He seems to have been magically healed. And this is the only point I'm stating because I've grown extra eyes to look at Hae Jin. u__u' Won't even bother complaining about anything else, I'll just overlook the minor flaws since this is a good show. I'm just whining because my man isn't getting any medical attention. B(

That stab in the back Jung Moon took in episode 4 made me flinch and ache and flip. I swear I almost squeezed myself through the screen to kill those guys and carry Hae Jin to the Hospital like the mad lover girl I am. TAT''

When will you guys learn there's this thing called OPINION...
And in MY opinion, saying Healer is overrated is an overstatement. Kill me, heal me was a great show, one of my favorites too, but it has way more flaws than Healer. Jisung was indeed awesome and I'd pick him over Changwook too though both are equally great (but I think I voted for Gung Min, lol). My Bromance nominee won, also my up&coming artists/villain ones. I'm a huge fan of EXO and all I can say is I'm glad END didn't make it because that was laughable. No one can say SSL didn't deserve the win and I only watched it after voting for another show and I can't say anything about Siwon, Twenty or SWWTN but - imo - Minyoung is overrated (and I absolutely adore her!). I'm mostly happy that Angry Mom made it because it's a fine work of art right there!

But that's all MY opinion, of course. None of us know best and our taste is different so let's chill and respect each other. There's plenty room to defend your opinion without bashing on another's.
I wish not only the main cast/good looking ones would get all the attention though. Kyungsoo did a great job in I remember you as did Seo Joon in KMHM and they are very close to the core, let alone those who are older, less attractive and who stand farther. Oh, well... 2015 is over and so is this poll. All I know is that I'm already taking names for this year's and seems like neither Seungho nor Hongbin will make it. :(

I got the exact same impression. OAO'

I also don't get all the negativity. Comments saying it's "predictable", "repetitive" or really bad... I don't understand them. For starters, once you've watched too many dramas it's hard to be surprised by a new one unless they insert an absurd interaction of an outer space element of sorts. Remember got me jumping in my seat for the first time after a while, ever since I watched Healer. I think people who seek love stories and cheesy stuff should really admit so instead of bashing great dramas such as this one. It isn't perfect but that doesn't stop it from being great (so far). I love psychological/political dramas, where common people struggle against the powerful to achieve something and this show is a great example. Law is a b*tch, whoever has more money eventually wins the trial, that's how it goes. In fact, everything else too because the number of people out there willing to be bought out or bend before a threat is... 90% to be optimistic. I complain a lot about the lead's acting but the show doesn't rely on him alone and I love it. ^-^

Oh, I didn't mean you at all, love. XD

You sound biased, ngl. He's a cutie but nothing you say makes sense to me. It's a matter of perception, of course. You think I'm wrong and I think you're being absurd putting him so highly and neither of us will change our minds this way. XD I won't go on and defend GM because I'm not biased, I just think he's one of Korea's best talents and that's all I know and I just can't seem how he's overacting. The feelings you nurture for YSH, however, I nurture for LJS. He makes me feel that exact same way you're describing XD and that's why I say you sound biased because, for LJS, I am.

You're going overboard saying this is a waste of time for me to be watching though. The main point of the show to me is the political powerplay/breaches in the law system. How could it be what you claim after the events in episode 10? Things are no longer running around their father/son relationship (that seemed pretty fairy tale-ish to me btw). I made it very clear that the only thing that bothers me is his dramatic scenes not getting to me (except in episode 10) and I'm repeating myself over and over with this so I'll just say it again: I love the show, the plot, the story (except episodes 7 and 8) and the cast too, so why would it be a waste of time just because I think SH isn't doing a good job? I don't hate him and I don't see where you're coming from with that remark, really.

Imaginary cat was really sweet and I kept shipping his character with Bok Gil instead. XD They were adorable. And I think I have all his works in my list. I'm looking forward to watching Warrior Baek Dong Soo (because of Changwook tbh). HAHAHAHA All you said there applies to me and Jongsuk's characters so far, mostly in I hear your voice and Doctor Stranger. I clawed my face out of anger and frustration so much and I just wanted to run away with baby Suk and keep him away from harm. ; A ; Bias is strong for him. OTL

It's a great drama. We all know it's a long way before the happy ending in most dramas but I wouldn't say this one is extreme melodramatic. So far, at least. ^^

Oh, so I guess I got you right the first time. But I believe everything depends on perspective. As I said before, I love him on "My imaginary cat" but his co-star in there has even less skills than the actual cat. She's terrible and her character is annoying so it had me wondering if he appeared good to me because she can't even be called an actress. But I know that's not the case (thanks to the rest of the cast). What I mean is, a dark shade of green alone is just that. You can't claim it's lighter or darker if not by comparing with another shade of green - it's relative. As is our perception of someone's skills. Alone, perhaps, he may be good, but compared to those who are better, he can be seen as bad. I also said I liked him in the last two episodes, he convinced me for once with his dramatic attempts and I was very happy about that.

I understand your arguments, love, but I'm not one of those people. You see, when I said "turn tables" I meant a metaphor and when I say the character is weak is because he has few things interesting about him imo - and to be quite honest with you I completely forgot about his ability. They made such a big deal about it in the first few episodes and then it wasn't even mentioned so I just.... forgot about that altogether? I didn't expect him to be smart because of his super memory but at least wary due his past experience and Law School alone should shake one up to reality (any 3rd degree course kinda does that if you're willing to sink that in and he doesn't miss a thing, now does he?) Alas, like everyone else, I want to see him... win. Because that's what happens in the end, we all know that's coming, yet we get frustrated anyway so, about that, I'm just whining. I like the down turns.

But the whole helpless thing as an excuse for his poor acting doesn't work for me. I realize he's sad, hurt, helpless. I know that. I respect characters that are different from my expectations, I barely set them up, actually. I expect a lot from actors, not characters. And if you recall, the first scene of him stepping into court implied that he'd beat the crap out of everyone. I don't care if it's hard. In fact, I like it. I see some people are complaining about that but that's not my case. I think he's a poor actor because (among several, several, several other reasons) a) when he's crying he quivers his lips a lot and his eyes don't even get red so it just screams FAKE! to me; b) when he's sad/surprised/frustrated he does that same puppy face he should no longer have now that he's a grown up, that same look he gives many people for several different reasons; c) when he met with Gyuman for the first time after returning you can feel Gyuman's killer aura towards Jinwoo but not even a good glare was shot by the latter and if we think he's facing the one who killed his childhood friend and framed his father, dude, that's a lot of cool for someone who can't handle his emotions well.

So my point is precisely the opposite. I know he's torn and shattered. He's supposed to be torn and shattered. I don't want him to play cool and kick people's arses, I want him to convince me that he's torn and shattered and falling apart and helpless. He's not doing that, he's not reaching me as an actor and the character is weak as in uninteresting to me. If all those mixed emotions were explored vividly in the drama I'd appreciate him a lot more because where you see brilliant, I see nothing. It's like it's all between the lines and masked up when it should be shining through the cracks. Gyuman's sickness is receiving a lot more attention from the writers as if he's the main character. We get to see what lies behind his madness and all that but what about Jinwoo? Flashbacks of happy memories with daddy, few tears here and there, puppy eyes to an extent I can hardly stomach and then flashes of him being overconfident when he's actually meant to be a quivering mess (according to you). He's no longer a child. He lost everything, went away with one goal and came back to seek for it - there's no room to make mistakes anymore. But I can accept that much. The story? I'll take it as it comes. I also like realistic characters, those cool guys who always get their way irk me (I can mention Angry Mom and my absolute love for it in here. The powerful always win, everything goes wrong when it can go wrong, I had a terrible time watching that and I love it because that's what real art is about, you know? I don't want to watch just another happy ending, just another romantic comedy - I want to feel damaged by how real the story is, get involved, cry, get angry, get happy when things finally work out or upset when they don't. My expectations about Remember are that high). My only real complaint here is whatever he does as an actor. Jinwoo could be anything as long as Seungho sells his image to me. And, honestly, I believe that vulnerable look of his is permanet because even when he's being serious, if you look in his eyes and ignore his words, he still looks like a beagle (which I find adorable and terribly distracting XD considering this is a serious drama).

Anyway, I hope he keeps on getting better from now on. This is indeed a challenging project and I haven't seen much of him but people say he's done better in other dramas and I believe it. But it seems like some take us for haters right away instead of listening to our arguments. We can't point out anything without getting glared at. XD Which is a shame because I love hearing counter arguments such as yours and I keep an open mind, always. I adore Seungho already and I'm looking forward to seeing more of him but as Jinwoo he just isn't getting there imo.

No problem, love. I adore friendly discussions. ^-^ Nonetheless, I've read your reply twice and I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean. Imo, Seung Ho isn't the worse actor here. I just poke a lot at his lacking dramatic skills because he's desperate to prove his father's innocence yet I don't see the despair there? Or at least it doesn't convince me. His puppy eyes are out eventually when he should be raged facing his enemies. Honestly, the character itself is weak imo so there's only so much an actor can do. I am a lover of complicated characters so the good guys are often boring to me (like Jinwoo and In Ah too). But never before I had this feeling of the lead being this absent, you know? He's good here and there, great sometimes, but mostly average or lower. I don't think anyone can be blamed for that. Let's take... Kill me, Heal me. I watched it recently. The lead actress annoyed me from starters with her constant obnoxious and senseless yelling. She wasn't great but she was there all the time. I saw no chemistry there either, but it didn't affect the plot so much. Compared to her lead actors I would gladly toss her in a trash bin but they worked it out alright. I compared YSH with LJS previously because of I hear your voice since the characters come out to be similar to me somehow. And while LJS made me swoon everytime he expressed any emotion, YSH looks like an injured puppy most of the time (damn those huge eyes don't help him but!!!). I think Jinwoo lacks strength from the frustration that comes with injustice. His father is innocent, is good, they have the closest relationship, he's also sick and dying in prision while forgetting about his own son and he knows everyone who's behind it. Isn't he too bland then? Just how does he cope with all of those emotions being so young and inexperienced? I didn't simply want him to play cool and win the trial, I wanted him to turn tables and bring sh*t down, huff and puff and clench his teeth while fulminating Gyu Man with his eyes (lol) but nah. I was highly disappointed. :( But please, if you think I don't get his character, do enlighten me. I adore YSH in Imaginary Cat and I'm not even embarrassed to say so. It's a cute mini show and I don't even like cats. But here... it just... nope. He doesn't convince me at all in this role and no one is more sorry than I am that he doesn't, trust me.

Odd... I never got that feeling. To me, on the contrary, he seems so natural that I'd be scared to go near him in real life. T-T That same feeling you describe I get from basically everyone but him, Sung Woong, In Ki, Hyo Seop and Won Jong.
I understand your point of view but since I can't possibly share it I'm inclined to think (pretentious as it may be) that's just a side effect of co-starring with a poor lead actor, as prior mentioned, so it may seem he's overacting when he's just being great like he usually is. In my perspective, it's the wide gap between their skills that gives the impression he's "trying too hard".