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Replying to Synchonicity Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U? Spoiler
Okay, I'll definitely cut this series some slack, due to the COVID situation. As for this episode:Wow, Zee was…
For BlueDew, my best guess would be that some of the missing unfilmed scenes include the transition from enemy to friends? We all know that ep 9 + 10 were not meant to focus entirely on just FighterTutor, so I assume there were supposed to be a few scenes on the side characters. That is my best guess, cause otherwise, they really dropped the ball in that storyline.

They really should have removed all the soccer players and only focus on them if there was a second season. There is basically no overlap with the main storylines and they appear so rarely that every appearance is very jarring.
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Replying to Baek Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U?
Was surprised with the latest episode. It didnt look like small scenes patched together just like ep11. I understood…
That is because most of the FighterTutor storyline was filmed at the time of the shutdown. I believe there was mention that it was 90% of their scenes were filmed. That is why the show said they will be shifting the focus of the last few episodes to focus on FighterTutor. If you look at just SaifahZon or the side couples, everything becomes much more choppy.
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Replying to MoonOverStar Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U?
omg, calm down. It's 'messy' because of COVID. Most of these scenes were edited together so we can keep having…
It would be understandable if this was a recent issue. The imbalance has been there since the start. There had been so little scenes of the side couples since the start that I don't even see why they included them at all (I'm talking about the soccer players). Unless you are arguing that the last few episodes were originally going to heavily focus on the soccer players?

No matter how "messy" COVID made this production, I don't think anyone can argue that FighterTutor got skinship and kisses to excess. Even if you cut their kisses to a quarter, it would still be more than everyone else put together. And I highly doubt even COVID had forced the production to include 4x the FighterTutor scenes than the original plan. While I cut them a lot of slack for how choppy the last few episodes had been, it doesn't change the fact that this show has been imbalanced and messy since the beginning.

This doesn't mean the show couldn't still be entertaining, it just mean that there are valid criticism to be made.
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Replying to the_innocent_panda Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U? Spoiler
Okay so just watched episode 12. And it was arguebly better than past 2 episodes. I'm not gonna say it was the…
I agree with you 100%. Originally, I thought that the extended animated sequence was because they couldn't film it due to the production shutdown, but it is clear that isn't the case from the last part and preview since they *did* film a second vacation. Why couldn't they have taken some of those beach scenes and make that in to a dreamy fantasy sequence for Zon's daydream? It is just jarring to see such a long animated sequence after such a long absence (since ep1, I believe). Not to mention I found the dubbing for the animated sequence to be really bad compared to ep 1.

Also, why does Tutor even need to tag along on this vacation. Fighter could easily have shown up at Tutor's place and reconcile there. There is zero reason they needed to intrude on SaifahZon aside from trying to force another beach vacation for FighterTutor. They could easily have done SaifahZon at the beach with FighterTutor back at university in between beach scenes (which I will be generous and assume that was the original plan for ep 9 + 10 in reverse). Since the scenes being aired now was filmed before production shutdown, they can't even blame the virus on why they set it up like this.
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Replying to Themotherofloopers Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U?
Tutor and Fighter's scenes were filmed long time ago (they were the first of the drama that was filmed) their…
The issue with separating out the couples by season is that there is enough overlap between Zon and Tutor that it would be hard to do one storyline without spoiling the other. Especially the two Zon&Tutor scenes these last two episodes would reveal way too much regardless of which couple they focused on first in the first season. Also, Zon's storyline only works well if it concurrent with Fighter/Tutor. So S1 would be FighterTutor and S2 would be SaifahZon that happens concurrently with S1?
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Replying to PaigeRows3 Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U?
Not really feeling Dew and Blue.
I think the biggest issue is that their storyline basically developed completely off screen. You basically feel like you missed half the story every time the show goes back to the soccer players. With such a choppy storyline, it isn't surprising that the audience has a hard time connecting with the two characters
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Replying to EmotionalTrainWreck Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U?
I dont actually hate it! I think all the actors are good. From what I understand is the couples are actually from…
I believe that there are 3 novels, FighterTutor, SaifahZon, and BlueDew. Considering there is barely any interaction, they should have removed all mention of BlueDew (and the rest of the soccer players really), and do that as a separate BL show. Maybe with a few cameo by the other two couples.

The other two couples had much more interaction, making it much harder to separate. That is probably why they merged the two novel into this current season. The problem is that the tone for FighterTutor (Drama) and SaifahZon (Comedy) is so different that it feels jarring going between the two storylines. They should have chosen a tone and just rewrite the other novel so it share a similar tone. Alternatively, they should have kept it as 3 shows. However, I can see the studio not wanting to do that since there would be significant spoilers just because of the shared interaction scenes between Tutor and Zon.
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Replying to evanevan Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U?
In the series they basically have no plot. They hated each other before and now they're all lovey-dovey, no explanation…
Considering how much they left out, they can basically create a season two for just the side character that happens concurrently as season one, since there is basically 0 overlap between the side characters and the two main couples
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Replying to bubblehoba Apr 18, 2020
Title Why R U?
Episode 12 part 2/4 is definitely a win for the side characters who were forgotten!
Only issue is that it been so long since we seen these characters, I had such a hard time remember who is who
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Replying to Synchonicity Apr 17, 2020
Title 2gether
I loved hearing Drake speak English! I just love him. (I didn't hear Win speaking English, sorry... it was a really…
In the latest Lunch Live with just Win, he did said a few word of English
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Replying to Badass Bunny Apr 17, 2020
Title Why R U?
1. There are 14 episodes - confirmed by production2. No one knows, u can ask the production on their Twitter or…
Also, from the statements, it sound like most of the Fighter/Tutor scenes were filmed already, hence the heavier focus on them in the remaining episodes. It is SaifahZon and the side characters that still have a good amount of missing scenes. Hence the promise for a makeup special SaifahZon episode.
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Replying to MizuRyuu Apr 17, 2020
Title Why R U?
From the comments, it sounds like he said that Zol's story gave a good ending to SaiZon, but for FighterTutor…
I have to say, I somewhat hope the ending for FighterTutor isn't good. Mostly because that would make it more likely for a second season so they can end up together.
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Replying to masamasa Apr 17, 2020
Title 2gether
I think they have to weight between...apologize to continue making money from China and prepare the good explanations…
I think the statement above is that GMM *is't* making any (or at least negligible) money from China so it make more sense for them to ignore this as much as possible in hope that it fizzle out
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Replying to Bluesake Apr 17, 2020
Title 2gether
Off topic about something i always wondered is it me or is Drake and Frank always in a drama together?
Since My Tee, that seems to be the case. Drake were in a few shows before then. Not only them, but a lot of other BL "pairs" seems to develop good working relationship so either request to work together or the network keep them together. OffGun and NewTay are two prominent examples. This also keep the shippers happy and probably help the success of their new shows, compared to if they work separately
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Replying to sony_t Apr 17, 2020
Title 2gether
So I was working late and it ended up being past midnight so I said "since I'm up why not stream the 'Lunch with…
I made a similar comment after their first Live at Lunch. That plastic separator is basically useless since it doesn't even extend that far back. The only way it can stop the spread is if they lean forward the entire time.

I completely agree that they should not be sending both of them out to do promotion at this time. There has been so many videos lately of them doing promotion on different thai shows. Most of the time, they aren't even wearing masks. Considering how successful the show is already, putting the two's health in danger is both unnecessary and set a bad precedent.
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Replying to jayden2020 Apr 17, 2020
Title 2gether
LOL! Thats the least of their worries when the world are already boycotting them lmfao!
Considering China's stance on LGBT, China was never a large market for GMMTV. What can China do? Ban a show that is likely already banned due to the LGBT content?
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Replying to MoonOverStar Apr 17, 2020
Title Why R U?
Saw the spot trailer. And I have questions, like what the hell did zon mean???
From the comments, it sounds like he said that Zol's story gave a good ending to SaiZon, but for FighterTutor he trails off. This implies that the ending for FighterTutor in the novel isn't good, but hopefully that was just teaser manipulation
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Replying to DreamHi Apr 12, 2020
Title Why R U?
I get the fact that saizon did not have enough screen time is making all saizon fans disappointed. But guys, their…
Considering they are selling box sets of the series right now, I wonder if that box set will be the series as it is aired (14 eps + 1 special), or the series as it meant to be (14 eps with the missing scenes edited in).
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Replying to Pvee Apr 12, 2020
Title Why R U?
It surprises me they went to air with the series not having finished filming. I think it would have been better…
The original intent was to finish filming before the show starts in June. They got offered an earlier timeslot by the channel and they took it, thinking they can finish filming as the show airs. While it would be great if they can go on hiatus til this covid19 blows over, they already paid for the tv slots and would lose a lot of money if they do not forcibly continue. Them agreeing to finish filming some of the missing scenes once covid19 is over is probably the best we can hope for.

What I wonder is whether they will re-cut everything for the box set they are currently selling. If they do, then the box set will probably offer the most coherent story at the end of all this
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Replying to MizuRyuu Apr 12, 2020
Did Mark give consent? He was drunk enough to consistently mistaken Vee as Bar. I don't think he was in any shape…
I agree that what Mark said can be somewhat considered as being open to sex. But from the start of the scene when Mark mistaken Vee for Bar, it is pretty clear that Mark was already far too drunk to give informed consent. Once they showed that Mark was that drunk, it is no longer right of Vee to have sex with him.

It gives the wrong lesson to impressionable viewers: That it is okay to have sex with someone who is clearly way too drunk as long as that person say something that can be considered agreement.
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