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On Kill Me Love Me Oct 25, 2024
Cdramas have the ability to turn the most 50 shades of grey and red ml characters into complete green forests with the greenest grass. They did it more recently with the mls in “Are you the one” and “The rise of Ning” and to this one too. The ml here was absolutely crazy in the novel so I can understand why they toned him down, but they have turned him into a national park forest.

This is why I like the story of kunning place. The ml was consistently a grey character even if he fell in love with the fl.

I wonder: is it because of censorship that they turn them into green flags with barely any shades of grey? or it it the management company of the actors themselves who want the actors to play the “good guys”? and avoid displeasing fans?

Thoughts?
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Replying to Lalalila Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Did the duke and fl's mother love each other? Just want a yes/no answer
It wasn’t an affair. He was under the influence of the aphrodisiac when he spent the night with her and she was no willing party. He wanted to do the responsible thing but she refused because she was a married woman. She only found out afterwards she was pregnant. She was depressed, in a happy marriage but her morals were intact and the whole incident affected her.
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Replying to Mstique Oct 25, 2024
I wish they have kept that element in the drama. I was so triggered when he told her “take care in the future”…
Right, she owns him no filial piety. lol
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Replying to themarchioness Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
It doesn't bother me that dad will eventually get whitewashed... because that's what always happens in the dramas…
I have the same complaints and more against the dad. No one truly called him out on his actions. Even the fl was civil - way too civil - and even called him dad one last time when she was saying her goodbyes. She should not have acknowledged him at all. The same person that beat you, tried to exile you and told you that you would never return to the capital, literally the day before, is not telling you to “take care in the future”. It felt so insincere and false that I was actually annoyed, because they are already trying to redeem him.
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Replying to greenblood_spock Oct 25, 2024
The drama is an alternate universe of the novel. Just have to judge it with what it is on screen.However, YN was…
I wish they have kept that element in the drama. I was so triggered when he told her “take care in the future” because it came from a place of falsehood. No one is calling him out in the novel and they are even making excuses for him (he was “agitated”). Alteast in the novel, he was made to feel guilty.
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Replying to JieJie Oct 25, 2024
Ep 24, I lost all respect for FL.
Oh yeah? what did she do?
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Well he is LSY's father after all so he is still gonna be her father-in-law. And all their kids will be Luos.…
So, because he is LSY’s father, he shouldn’t be called out? The way he reacted upon learning the truth was despicable. The audacity of him to tell the fl to “take care in the future” when the day before he had her beaten and was ready to exile her until he found out she was the duke’s daughter. I am not buying into this fake growth, but then, filial piety is paramount even to undeserving parents.

“He never had any say in his life?” well, he certainly had plenty to say when it came to raising his children and given preferential treatment to concubines over legal wives.
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 25, 2024
Why do the dads almost always get a free pass.

- Minglan’s dad in the Story of Minglan (atleast Minglan called him out a few times)

-Princess Weiyoung’s dad
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
I can’t get over the fact that the dad was not called out for his actions and that they even made excuses for him (you were “agitated”, that’s understandable, drink some soup). I lost it completely when he said to the fl “you must take care in the future” - It felt so FAKE, considering he was ready to exile her yesterday. Get outta here!
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Replying to Lalalila Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Did the duke and fl's mother love each other? Just want a yes/no answer
The Duke was injured at the time. His soldier kidnapped her to treat the Duke. At the time, she was staying at a temple and had left the Luo mansion due to the humiliation and disrespect she had to endured at the hands of her husband and concubine Qiao. The husband is the worst and a total hypocrite as he got that Qiao pregnant and had to make her his concubine to avoid the scandal. He then started giving that concubine preferential treatment over his legal wife and they even accuse her of trying to harm the baby. So the wife left to live at the temple and that’s when she was kidnapped. The injured Duke was giving a drink that had aphrodisiac and he lost control and ended up spending the night with her. He was not a bad person and he defended her honor. When he asked her to leave with him after the incident she refused because she was already married.
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Replying to Lalalila Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Did the duke and fl's mother love each other? Just want a yes/no answer
The fl’s mom was not in love with the Duke in the novel. The Duke was in both the drama and Novel
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
They really sugarcoated what happpeend with the Duke and Madam Gu in the drama compared to the novel. The fl’s mom and the spineless dad had not signed divorce papers; the mom did not fall in love with the Duke; the Duke explained to the spineless father what happened and how the fl was conceived - everything was made clear and in the end the spineless dad felt guilty (they removed a lot of material as to why he left guilty). The dad was called out on his treatment of Madam Gu and the fl, especially by Madam Gu’s trusted maid. The grandma had already passed away by that time.

I am really enjoying the drama, and I like some of the changes. I just don’t like how they bypass certain things/questions by just not addressing them.

Also, the fl left the Luo mansion to go live with the Duke. She was a kid at the time. She did not go live elsewhere nor did she opened a shop. I haven’t finished the novel, but it seems a bit unrealistic that a young unmarried lady, a duke’s daughter, would decide where she lives during that era?
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Are they seriously trying to redeem the father after he beat her up. Talking about “you must take care in the future” what? weren’t you trying to exile her never to return to the capital a day ago?

Why is everyone so nice to the spineless father? not one jab at him. Unlike the novel, he was called out on his treatment of the fl’s mother and the fl. He felt remorse. I seriously don’t like how the father is getting away with everything and the abuse.
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Replying to deepakk Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
It may seem like the villain is madam Chen, she is indeed wrong, but the real villains are grandma and that first…
Regarding: “it may seem like Madam Chen is a villian”? She IS a villain; she killed the fl’s mother and tried to kill other people including the fl. The first master and granny are just part of her vilain origin story.
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Replying to RAMking Oct 25, 2024
Glad the worst father stayed as DOUBLE WORST FATHER, please don't write any redemption for this @ss hole like…
Unfortunately it looks like he will be in the closing scenes if you look at the intro song.
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 25, 2024
We should seriously have a pinned message that reads “the fl and the ml are not related”…the number of times I have seen this question asked in the comment section
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Replying to Angiee Le Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
so which episode did the leads notice they have feelings for each other
I think he finds out around ep 8. I think it was after he knew he started having feelings.
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Replying to Val W Oct 25, 2024
Oh and some well to do random man has relations with her mother and her mother hides it. But according so some…
What truth should be left unsaid?
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Replying to twinty Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Don't tell me she still doesn't' know! I am still on ep 23 because I have been too busy but I felt today would…
She still doesn’t know 100 % as of ep 27. She will know for sure by ep 28-29.
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Replying to Lunkera Oct 25, 2024
I'm interested in Rebel Princess since i heard it has a happy ending. Is it good?
I was at times dying of laughter watching the Sword and the Brocade on viki with the timed comments when the ml is introduced along with “his family”. Everyone in the comments was having a field day lol
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