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Replying to messypree Nov 14, 2024
Looking at the poster... and I wonder, has Jack ever held a gun in the series? I guess I have to rewatch.
I don't recall him holding a gun in ep. 1-10.
Replying to messypree Nov 14, 2024
Has it been released?
Only a teaser (part of the track was used during end credits of ep. 10); the MV will be released on YWPB Records YT channel on 15.11.2024 at 8 PM.
On Jack & Joker: U Steal My Heart! Nov 12, 2024
Ep. 10 end credits rolled to a diferent track than usual, a calm, melancholic tune with no vocals. Does anyone know whether this was part of War's new song "ร้อยวิธี" ('hundred ways'), which is to be released on 15.10.2024 and to be a part of "J&J" soundtrack?
Replying to ShunDaiOnMyMind Nov 12, 2024
I've only watched the uncut version and I know it's longer, sometimes by 10-15 minutes but I have no idea what…
In episodes released on iQIYI end credits start at: ep. 1 – 1:13:35; ep. 2 – 0:54:20; ep. 3 – 1:07:15; ep. 4 – 1:23:34; ep. 5 – 0:58:49; ep. 6 – 1:10:42; ep. 7 – 1:11:55; ep. 8 – 1:18:59; ep. 9 – 1:11:57; ep. 10 – 1:00:49. When do end credits start in the episodes you downloaded from Dailymotion? Do they include a disclaimer and a "previously" part at the very beginning of the episode or does the action of the episode start right away?
Replying to IntriguedL Nov 12, 2024
I dislike save more than hope.
Here's what the contrarian in me would say to that: Save is doing what he can to protect Hope, whom he loves - which is basically the same approach as Joke's (btw: initially Joke is not motivated by feelings for Jack - he wants to prove something to his father and later wants to be forgiven by Jack, both of which can be considered egoistic motivation). Neither Save nor Joke seem to be inherently evil, both do dark stuff "in the name of love". Sure, they don't do exactly the same things - Save was willingly acting against Jack, his grandmother and Joke, while Joke was "only" stealing stuff and bashing people who stood in his way (none of whom are characters we can relate to nor we are menat to like - like faceless thugs, servants or rich people). We keep excusing Joke (or even fail to notice that what he does is wrong and objectively bad) because he's the main character, while Save is portrayed as a treacherous snake. Still, for an outside observer both are criminals and people do suffer because of what they do or did.
Replying to ShunDaiOnMyMind Nov 12, 2024
I've only watched the uncut version and I know it's longer, sometimes by 10-15 minutes but I have no idea what…
I checked ep. 8 and 10 on iQIYI and found that end credits start at 1: 18:59 and 1:00:49 respectively - this implies you have cut versions of episodes.
Replying to ShunDaiOnMyMind Nov 12, 2024
I've only watched the uncut version and I know it's longer, sometimes by 10-15 minutes but I have no idea what…
Here’s the length of each episode released so far on iQIYI (“uncut” versions): ep. 1 – 1:16:11; ep. 2 – 0:56:56; ep. 3 – 1:09:52; ep. 4 – 1:26:13; ep. 5 – 1:01:28; ep. 6 – 1:13:19; ep. 7 – 1:14:32; ep. 8 – 1:21:34; ep. 9 – 1:14:31; ep. 10 – 1:03:25. Compare that with what you found online to figure out whether those are cut or uncut versions.
On Jack & Joker: U Steal My Heart! Nov 11, 2024
A small show-related poll. The ring:
1/ should go to Jack’s collection of jewelry and make him the new crime boss of greater Bangkok area,
2/ would allow Joke to begin a new, honest life as a pillar of local community, soon-to-be politician and future PM of Thailand,
3/ will be Tattoo’s engagement ring when he finally proposes to Aran in ep. 146,
4/ has to be kept from Hoy, who would lose it right away,
5/ needs to be returned to the Green Lantern Corps,
6/ "must be taken deep into Mordor and cast back into the fiery chasm from whence it came!"
What options would you add to the above list? Which of them would you choose?
Replying to Ima Nov 11, 2024
Boss and Nang are siblings?
It would seem so. This would explain their complicated relation and how Nang knows so much about Boss - she knew who Aran was, she knew about the necklace and Aran's mother...
Replying to LearnFrench Nov 11, 2024
How can one ring change that much 🤔🤔🤔
It's not "Lord of the Rings", but it's not the real world either, at least not fully. It's a fairy tale intertwined with the real world - hence the larger-than-life villains, heroes pulling off crazy stunts and fighting for the small folk as well as genuine fortune telling. Same reason why we have artifacts in this story - like Jack's ring, Aran's necklace and rings of the Four Horsemen. Not all about them should be taken in a literal way - they are MacGuffins, but also metaphors, symbols.
Pretty sure in the end the power of Jack's ring will triumph over the ring wielded by Boss.
Replying to Navyi Nov 11, 2024
Most of the people are bashing this show left and right but the rating is so fuckin high,how so?! It's not making…
Rating comes from more than 3200 people - some rated it low, but it seems that the vast majority rated it high. Comments expressing disappointment with the show are probably coming from those who rated it low. It's much easier to spot those comments than to spot the influence of the low ratings on the overall rating - hence the feeling that the rating and the comments are disconnected, don't reflect each other.
Replying to 11639475 Nov 11, 2024
ahhhhhhhhhh....i am not so far...gosh i should stop reading comments while watching
Relax, it's gonna be okay. Watch the official trailer, wait for a passionate YinWar kiss in Jack's school - pretty sure that's gonna be in ep. 12 and signals a happy end of their storyline.
On Jack & Joker: U Steal My Heart! Nov 11, 2024
This show... Is it flawed, dumb and unreasonable? Sometimes. Do I care? Nope. Do I enjoy it? F**k, yeah! It makes me feel stuff, gets me involved and wanting more - that's how I know it's a great show. 2 episodes left and I'm sure it'll be fire.
Replying to inlovewithlove Nov 11, 2024
For everyone wondering why the show didnt delve into them being anti-heroes, i actually had the same issue but…
About the card Nang sent Joke: I don't think it implies the character is foolish or can be manipulated. Regardless of the tarot meaning of The Fool, in French tarot decks (unlike the earlier Italian decks) this card depicts a man with a jester's hat (a jester was also called a joker or a fool) and usually resembles the Joker card from the standard 52 card deck (even though the Joker card's origins are completely different - it was created in the US). I think that's all there is to that card in "Jack and Joker" - it symbolizes Joke. Same with the fool mentioned in the fortune strip Jack got in ep. 4 - that "fool" was Joke.
BTW: the name "Joker" is quite fitting for War's character, as "back in the olden days" jesters used to entertain people by various means (not limited to telling jokes) - including by magic tricks and other distractions; also by immitating others.
I actually enjoy the "magical" elements of this show - the fortune telling, the predictions, the symbolism of important objects. And I keep reminding myself that Nang isn't the only fortune teller in Supanimit: in ep. 7 Save revealed who Joke is and predicted that he will become a threat to Boss. Waiting for that happen.
Replying to KamilaRN Nov 11, 2024
Do you guys think this show will have a happy or sad ending? Damn, I really hope for a happy ending for them!!
Happy ending, but plenty of trouble to navigate around first.
Replying to Mandy Nov 6, 2024
any thoughts on next ep from the teaser? i think they are gonna act like bfs 😝 and work together to take boss…
In the official trailer there's a very short clip of Joke crying - and War's wearing the same leopard-patterned shirt in that clip as he is in the teaser for ep. 10, in the scene where Joke says "I'm going to go help the people at the shrine" and then asks Jack "how many times can you forgive a person for their mistakes?". My guess is that early in ep. 10 we'll see Jack and Joker hugging in bed (there's a clip of that in the official trailer), that might even be the opening scene of the episode; later we'll get Joke alone in the bedroom looking at that tarot card Hoy gave him (a clip in the teaser). The first part of the episode could be about Jack and Joke as boyfriends, with all the lovey-dovey stuff we missed so far - and parallel to that we'll see Boss using his newfound power to tighten his grip on Supanimit. Closer to the end of the episode it'll become clear what Boss is doing and Joke will reveal that he gave Boss the ring - and Jack will be disappointed or even angry with Joke breaking his promise not to steal again. Not sure if they'll break up over this or just have an argument, but this is the moment Joke will cry (clip from the trailer I mentioned earlier). If YWPB follow the "BL formula", by the end of ep. 10 the show should be heading for it's lowest point - which will be reached during ep. 11; from there on Jack and Joker should reconcile and team up with the others for a final showdown with Boss. I can be wrong about most/all of the above, as the teaser for ep. 10 actually reveals very little and there's only a handful of scenes in the official trailer which we haven't seen yet (so they'll be in ep. 10-12) - drawing correct conclusions basing on so little is hard.
I'm actually hoping that I'm wrong about aat least one: a break up. Hate those things in BLs and honestly hope YWPB and their writers will spare as this pointless plot device. I always say that BLs are love stories and should be about preserving a relationship and overcoming adversities for love instead of giving in and breaking up (which solves exactly zero problems and goes against everything a BL is).
Sorry for the wall of text.
Replying to Binni3 Nov 5, 2024
I'm actually wondering this as well. Personally, I don't mind the pacing and development of their relationship/characters…
I can imagine that a lot of things looked very different in their original ideas/concepts, then changed in the initial script draft, only to change even more in the final script - and that some additional adjustments were made on set, when the series was being shot. I guess it's much easier to do things for a short film or teaser, but those things become too costly or impossible for other reasons when you try to do them for a movie or series - that sets certain limits of creativity and constraints for the script.
Still, just by considering how many extras there are (e.g. all scenes showing Supanimit bank are packed with customers, bank clerks etc. - it's not just the characters in an empty room pretending to be an office in a bank) and how many locations the show was shot at, not to mention the quality of those locations (the shrine looks like an actual shrine, Rose's house looks like a spacious palace etc.) - it's all very impressive.
On Jack & Joker: U Steal My Heart! Nov 5, 2024
I imagined the 4 credited writers of the show sitting at a table, all confused and worried, dozens of pages with various drafts of the script spread all over the table in complete disarray, and Yin, War, Prom, Bonz and Mark standing behind the writers, loudly discussing what to change and what to leave in the final version; I imagined Bonz smiling broadly and saying that since the audience - hungry for some YinWar action - will be expecting Jack and Joker to kiss asap, they need the script to say the opposite; I also imagined War grinning and saying that instead of making Tattoo and Aran a couple they will only keep hinting at it, driving the audience insane.
It's all a joke, of course; I did, however, wonder about how much creative control YWPB had over the series (as co-producers and main cast) and how much the script reflects what they wanted. I started wondering about it after reading multiple comments here that the show is not what people wanted and/or expected, that it's a bromance and not a BL, that it depicts events in an unrealistic way, that there are plot holes, pacing issues, problems with the tone of the show and how the characters are written etc. etc. How much of that resulted from YWPB making a show they wanted and how much comes from writers who actually drafted the script?