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I just began EP06 and honestly I am positively surprised. Yes, there was a lot of cringe in EP01 but since then it's really "easy on the eyes" 😉
Not sure about the 2nd couple yet (story-wize they should be my favourites but I can't get "into them") - Fluke is not a problem here but his partner... I am not convinced (even him being ladies man was not very believable to me).
I am hopping that the cruel girl, who made fun of Hill in school, comes back and gets just desserts 😤

I am on EP04, so I might be missing a lot but in EP01 XZF basically said that GRQ is placeholder and he would dump him if YHY wanted to get together, so I am not sure if there was actually any genuine feeling from XZF. Additionally XZF claimed to want to self delete due to YHY not wanting him, so accident or not I doubt they would actually end up happily together.
I might be biased because I just saw XC getting SAed by GRQ (how many times XC was supposed to say no? He was basically crying!), so I don't have a lot of generosity for GRQ (yet).

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Have you tried The Eclipse (their 1st BL together as they were - separately - in Not Me [First] and TontoChocolate [Khao, title might have mistakes, as I never remember it 😅])? After they they took part in Moonlight Chicken (but they use meeting about [stuff] as an excuse to maybe start domethin and it's in last frames, so barely any interaction) and the last one they did was Heart Killers (you would think that Khao is playing the same character as Ray here but they are significantly different and First is big on "daddy energy" 🤭)

Then perhaps stop at EP11 - we all know it's curse 😉 (people watching Killer and a Healer did it with, I think last 10min of the last EP because... bodies were piling to high, so it you want to see the ending you mentioned I highly recommend Killer and Healer + it's set in similar period but in CH).

He, at least, wears his cruelty on the sleeve. Everyone knows what a piece of work he is (and he actually got punished for his behaviour).
The princess however IMO holds the same beliefs but masks better (and is - so far - not physically violent). She was using her son's lover like a leash to make him do her bidding (interesting that she was allowing visits by the grandson) including forcing her grandson to get married. It's like she relishes in the emotional torture she brings to everyone around her - a recipe to be left alone. I am not going to absolve her son here - he is a grown 🍑 man, who is working and earning salary - why can't he buy them another home and stand up to his mother? This type of filial piety is a double-edged sword 😮‍💨

Yes, last EP is better to be not watched till the end. There is however "alternative ending" (voiceover + some scenes from earlier EPs mixed) with is HE (or as much HE as this series gives).

Exactly!
My favourite example of it is Not Me (I must be in the minority but when it was released simultaneously with Bad Buddy, I was surprised that it did not have more hype than BB). The novel is simply 🗑️. What was left from it are the names, beating of Black and the boys names (in the novel there were no girls + Black ended up with Gramm). There was no fight agains the man (or for marriage equality), Sean was from a complete (older brother included) and wealthy family, Sean figured Whitenin like 5 seconds but kept playing dumb to get into his pants (which was at beast doubt-con 🤢)... because he was kind of White's stalker (White had some accident as a kid and lost his memory that included Sean), Sean and Black were roommates and our final villain was barely a footnote on that story. White basically started as naïve dummy and ended as one. This is how much one can change the script and for the better.

I am re-watching (speed run) but still every time I see the mother, my blood boils. I even had to stop EP22 when she was blaming everyone around her except the real culprit - her.
"Dad should have told you" - lady, it's you who needed pick up and your son was supposed to do it, so he should be the 1st to know that his help is not needed. Is it so hard to send him a text? Even if it's too hard - pick up the phone when he calls you or call him back. Yes, dad only has 3 kids but you have more, so you should have been more responsible 🤦‍♀️
Is there like a Golden Raspberry equivalent of "mother of the year" (becaus she is definitely in the run)?

Highly recommend (but perhaps not for everyone): Killer and Healer (CH). It's set in the 1920'-30'. We have 2 couples: police officer + doctor and "business man" + opera singer. Doctor accidentally gets caught by the police officer and his team during a raid (I think the bad guys were selling opium), gets thrown in the jail overnight and when he returns his little sister (whom he raises, as their parents are gone) is nowhere to be found, so he searchers for her which lead him to Hong Kong where his path crosses again with the police officer (who is there to investigate opium trade). Opera singer is a patient of the doctor and on friendly terms with police officer. Police officer is friends with "business man" and they once go to opera where the said singer performs. Singer has tragic past (and I would say present as well) but he wants to get to the bottom of what happened.
Additionally there are 3 FL and they really wrote them well - FL1 is even well liked by the viewers (even though she was kind of love rival for 1st couple), FL2 is kind of "woman scorned" and FL3 starts quite annoying but grew on me (and as a character).

Here is a big spoiler: in this series heads roll like in Game of Thrones.

I could ask you the same question.
Besides this point - can only people who read the novel complain or are you forbidding everyone? 🙄
I read Counterattack and still I wish for more screen time for 2nd CP, so why can't I hope for more here?

EP19 - for me same as in the novel you can feel the undertones of romantic love the older brother feels for WS (and considering the jealousy WS was showing before it might be reciprocated - just WS needs to be self-sabotaging so his word are what they are). I wonder if they are actually blood related (I don't remember the book stating that they weren't but just wondering). Definitely big bro understands WS the best and knows tlwhat he actually needs.

And you could have not written the last 3 words 🙄 (or even 6 - to quote They Might Be Giants: "you're not the boss of me").

Yes, I so want more of the 2nd CP but we only get crumbs. WSL is blind to his own feelings and really needs a push. HY definitely knows GT secret and is toying with them a bit.

I am on EP23 and once again the cursing women use against eachother are just crazy.
I've seen several times (in different stories) women A calling woman B slut, when it was the guy who was into B and B was just existing (often totally not interested in the guy nor was she trying to use her "feminine wiles" on him for [purpose]). Woman B might even not be interested in any guy, so where does the word comes from here?
But in this series? The jealous woman could actually reasonably call FL a slut (in the middle of the night, traveling on a horse with a man) but she called her hateful 🤦‍♀️ The only person she could call that is the man in question after he told her off a few hours before.
I must say that the instant hatred towards FL is getting old.

Another thing is them doing Clark Kent/Superman with women dressed in male clothing. At least give them glasses to make it more believable 🤦‍♀️ (if the argument is the not bound hair than somebody should really tell that to the 2nd FL, the princess)

1st who was shooting was the guy in the dormitory with thin walls (he started shooting the whole dormitory but I think he was also the guy from the 1st scene where he went to cram school and shoot everybody in a classroom and then himself), 2nd was the guy with ankle bracelet/locator (was no parole, I think) who was creeping on the girl changing his water filter (he went close to military base to practice and then shoot the police precinct).
They were both old enough (especially the one with ankle monitor) to have to do the mandatory training (I think men have to do it till 28).
And let's not forget our band of "cleaners" who went around collecting the weapons (although I think I heard one of them saying something about not being in military yet).

About the boys: Moon Baek organized some fight close to the place the boys were eating, then got BB gun from BB shooting place near by and started shooting the fighting guys and acting cool while doing it. After that the thinner boy approached him and asked if he can teach him how to shoot. He took the boys to the BB place and was teaching the slimmer one, then approached the one with the glasses and offered to teach him as well.

EP8 - Mr. Kim vs Kong Seok Ho
It was like watching "The Shooting AKA Dear Sister" by The Lonely Island/SNL 🤣

I watch for Moon Baek - I like them unhinged 🤭

For me Lee Do gets at some point too much robot like and I need something to balance that.

Additionally later episodes go into people who were trying to do it the right way but we're bullied mercilessly which is an important topic in Korean society.

I also think that when it came to the school EP (I just finished EP07) you also saw that nobody was doing anything about the issue. The scene where they were bullied behind the school and then lying looking up: from almost every window above somebody was watching but didn't even call the teacher. Teachers (we mostly saw one being totally useless) were deliberately not seeing the issue: how can guy constantly slip and pour the food exactly on head of another or even when issue was actually reported just ignored it... I think this also made viewers more desensitised to "bystanders" being hurt, as they weren't innocent.About justice prevailing: I read that minors get much, much lighter sentences then adults (this sparked quite a big critique after some of the especially brutal cases).I don't know if you saw The Glory but it goes more in-depth about the issue of bullying, it's long-standing effects and punishment for the offenders. Another one is Juvenile Justice, where main character is a judge in juvenile court.

I am starting EP8 (so right after the school EP) but I remember that while I was watching The Glory, people were discussing that punishment for even serious crimes in Korea but done by underage perpetrators is quite light, so they might not get comparable punishment to that any of the adults would have gotten.