Not a Robot

I'm excited, but wish they would finish Love is More than a Word.

This was the first danmei BL, so no historicals, only modern. Butterfly lovers was supposed to be a BL, but the law made it change to male x female. In my opinion, had China not passed the law against gay and feminine men on screen, they would be where Thailand is today, or at least neck and neck.

I'm still worried because the govt still has reach with social credit scores, etc. But since they are allowing the actors to work in this series, hopefully they will allow a censored version for China and an uncensored version for international release to keep the actors out of trouble.

Back in the day I said that I wish Taiwan would adopt it, but people were telling me the accent thing, etc., but now that time has passed, maybe people would be more forgiving of the accent.

I'm still heartbroken by Love is More than a Word being cut short and Butterfly Lovers turned MxF, so I wish this project great success.

Having read the novel, I'm pleasantly surprised at this adaptation since much of the book is lemons.

Thank you. I didn't realize there was a 2nd epilogue.

Since being drafted, Frank has really developed a nice physique.

My thought was that there are visual and fantasy elements for some gay viewers. Gratuitous bare ass, shirtless men, 3P, a gay mafia boss with a naked harem, handsome older men (school director and coach) and sports, are not usually for the girls. Just my speculation lol.

Saw the preview for Ep 11, and it looks like Ming's dad is going to pull and An Ziyan type imprisonment. I know the older Chinese BL novels have a lot of r@pe, violence, but since I know we will get a happy ending, I'll just live through it. To me, Ming is only redeemed because he is a fictional character with a lot of baggage. In real life, Ming should have gone to prison. Both Up and Poom are doing a great job playing complex characters who have major flaws.

Episode 10 was the best so far. The storytelling, the acting, just wow. I'm so impressed with Joe 2's mother not wanting to her son, who already committed suicide over a relationship, to be some rich guy's dirty secret, but also gave Ming time to work out a plan. I think Sol will support this relationship as long as Ming does not go back to thinking that he owns Joe. I'm hoping Ming's dad is not the monster the family thinks he is.

I watched an interview with Up where he said that Ming has "emotional issues" and is a, "spoiled brat." This makes me love Up's acting even more because he gets his character, both positive and negative characteristics. I'm not sure if I'm going to watch Ep 10 or wait to watch 10-12 together. The protagonist, Joe, just depresses me. Strange because he is so "up" but he makes me depressed. I'm not sure what to do because I can watch Knock Knock Boys after.

Yes, I noticed the birds but did not analyze it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Even in the rewind, the birds are there too.

I noticed the birds on the wire, 2 birds together. Is that the same thing?

I can believe it. It's been done twice and the story has to be heavily censored to make it acceptable to new viewers who have never read the books.

Oh, the boards said Poom's character was the bad buy. Yes, Poom is gorgeous, and so is his voice. so I'm glad that I got to see him as a Joe first, who like ALL of the character in this drama, is flawed, so I was not swayed by his handsomeness.

I'm not sure how many other actors could play Ming and not come off as deranged. Ming is still a controlling jerk, but we see that he has learned from losing Joe, and that's hard to convey. Even Mek is showing his depth as an actor, in the character Tong, an opportunity he really did not have at GMMTV. Although I have enjoyed other series more this year, I cannot say I've seen a better ensemble of actors than this series. I'm going to watch the bakery series, just to see Poom as the bad guy.

OMG I know those women too. At least Ming isn't a cheater. Some of the guys you describe also cheat, which causes some of the breakups. I finally found my silver lining about Ming lol.

In real life Ming is unacceptable, although I know that he and Joe will be together. Even now (Ep 6) he is stalking Joe and controlling him. Fictional characters are always given leeway. Some people have these type of fantasies and there are darker stories in BL, but many viewers would be turned off and not watch. I think it's only redeemable because Up is playing Ming, and he is established, as well as a good actor, so the actor can be differentiated from his character

I disliked Teh from ITSAY/IPYTM and did not want Oh to take him back, both seasons. That's how I feel about Ming. He is sort of a yandere type when Joe tries to leave. In the real world, Ming would be committing domestic violence, kidnapping and caused Joe to get fired, all of which is hard to overcome. Hopefully he will redeem himself eventually.