You might not want to know that the death rate of Liu Yuning's characters is pretty high. I expect YZJ will die…
I think if YZJ dies, it’ll add to the story of Su Muzhe ! I don’t know how to articulate it correctly right now, but I would understand only if the story is told correctly. Remember DW as the suffering young girl lost everyone she loved and reinvented herself as Su Muzhe the woman who is extremely capable, his death would hurt her, I don’t think it would break her though. I have no hope for any character, I just hope they tell the story well so I can atleast understand why they decided to traumatise me but applaud them for a good story told.
I waited to watch all the ones that ended up sad so I didn't watch them. I could not resist SOPG though and got…
No it’s not a sad ending, but the love story of FFH and WYL that never got to happen still traumatises me til this day. And then I watched the princess adventures as well and he never stopped loving her and Lord was I broken ! I went down the rabbit hole of thinking of how many love stories ended up tragic and didn’t get to happen simply due to politics. I understood FFH and WYL way too much to just let that emperor slide! He knew what he did and he was never sorry for it! (I know I know he was chosen by heaven blah blah blah) BUT HE KNEW WHAT HE DID! The ending was one I was forced to accept but excellent writing cos it made sense! Amazing story telling!
I waited to watch all the ones that ended up sad so I didn't watch them. I could not resist SOPG though and got…
I actually refused to finish kill me love me because it made no sense whatsoever to end that ways and I despise senseless writing especially if it’s going to leave me with depression for a month. I’m still not over the trauma of Yanxi Palace, that’s why I keep watching Royal Feasts over and over again! HE FOR ALL in the universe I live in! The world is tough enough, it shouldn’t be even tougher on tv 😩😭😭
What she is doing is very rational. YZJ is coming for the Zhengs and she has thrown her lot in with ZZH. What…
You missed my point completely… I already know YZJ is going after the ZHENGS yes but she’s perpetuating the situation… someone trying to save themselves would basically stay out if it, get what she can and run or encourage ZZH to run with her. But nope she’s trying to reclaim her family name. Everything she does is for the approval and glory of her family regardless of herself. ZZH comments in the most recent episode when he was drunk … saying she could give herself to someone wealthier than him who could help her seek revenge! And truth be told, SHE WOULD. A legitimate daughter acting in that manner in those times !?!
YZJ is the only person with VALID reason for revenge! They literally massacred his whole family in cold blood! The rest of them are fighting to save their asses and hide their crimes. But as you said, we can agree to disagree.
EP. 30 I think ZZH is setting up CSJ! He’s like an arrogant rich kid… he will always choose himself! He might be the son of a concubine but he’s not short of women. So far we’ve been seeing him ALLOW CSJ to lead him, but I think he’s just as cunning and meticulous as YZJ… I don’t know but there’s something about him I don’t fully trust. It’s like a Panda, because it’s cuddly and cute doesn’t stop its true nature, a WILD ANIMAL! He literally poured hot water on the hands of someone he was seemingly helping… he’s definitely a threat. I therefore take back about previous comments about a possible redeeming arc for him … he’s devious. I do not trust him.
CSJ… I give up. She’s not very intelligent is she? Not the smartest cookie but carrying around an undeserved male ego trying to prove what exactly !?!
READY and I HAVE BEEN READY for the fall of XNY! “The greedier you are, the quicker you fall” -YZJ And I don’t think this was aiming only towards XNY, I think this applies to CSJ also!
What she is doing is very rational. YZJ is coming for the Zhengs and she has thrown her lot in with ZZH. What…
No, I disagree she’s not saving herself. A person who is saving themselves, especially after everything she’s been through, would sit down with ZZH and remain humble. Accept defeat and live a good live that ZZH has thus far provided her. She’s trying to salvage her family name and take back what they initially stole. She’s seeking revenge but being led by her pride and like I mentioned in a different comment, there’s no pride in revenge. She’s un redeemable and has zero accountability for her actions. It’ll be like her trip to Wulin… where she believed she was in control of her uncle (her pride and ego at work) but the whole time she was falling into his trap, her self-assurance is her biggest flaw and we’re already seeing her planning out the EXACT same scenario as Wulin, thinking she’s moving the pieces but she will end up being another pawn. A dead one at that!
I understand, but here’s the thing, in life just in general outside of the show… when things happen to you…
Another interesting take. I think the choice for ZZH will be to either save himself or sacrifice himself for the family. When he was talking to CSJ He made a comment along the lines of his father not even really phased by the death of ZHS… I personally think his attitude is that of an arrogant spoilt rich kid without serious responsibilities. He was able to knock out his childhood crush because at that point her family was declining anyway and he got what he wanted, he did nothing more nothing less. But he also helped her without degrading her when she was seriously in need which shows he has compassion. I low-key don’t want him to die, and I think if he’s able to figure out that he will be nothing but collateral damage in CSJ’s tyrannical reign for unfounded revenge, I think he may be saved. I look forward to his story progression.
I need to watch episode 26 again so I can identify these areas you’ve mentioned. I noticed something was off with Yuchi at Languan Dock yard but I wasn’t able to answer my questions because literally nobody in the series has mentioned it. They’ve all been focused on LK the leader of the bandits.
However, I do believe YZJ and DW are very aware of the betrayal! Not one of them sought him for assistance in their escape. Furthermore, Shrimp gave us insight into his true character when he mentioned that he doesn’t like him even though he doted on him, because when he’s giving him sweets he’s kind but when he’s educating him he’s extremely strict. It comes across as a statement from a nagging child but a kind person will be just as kind in their teaching. (The English translation stated Strict, but I’m beginning to think the Chinese word probably meant more).
I think you’re partially right about ZJR attendant, but I won’t elaborate on why until I see the next few episodes and more light is shed on truths.
I understand, but here’s the thing, in life just in general outside of the show… when things happen to you…
Your insights… your words and articulation are exceptional. I commend you.
That scene was truly chilling! Blink and you’ll miss that cold detachment when ZZH mentioned the truth depths of her family’s crimes.
I look forward to ZZH arc though, I think he may be redeemable, because currently he’s being led by duty, but remember he has businesses to stand on without his family, so I’m hopeful for him. I don’t they why but I think his realisation and understanding that he’s just a pawn that can be disposed of at will like his brother may add to his character development.
Also can you shed light on what actually happened at Languan place, I think Yuchi was involved in the Black Bandits kidnapping DW and I think ZJR’s attendant was the mole to Prince Ying who gave away the plan. I don’t know but something is off with his attendant that I don’t trust. How did the Black Bandits infiltrate the convey? How did they know the plan enough to ambush and remember the army was meant to follow ZJR but in the Knick of time they received an order not to leave base, who was behind that intel? Is it just me suspecting the attendant and Yuchi?
I understand, but here’s the thing, in life just in general outside of the show… when things happen to you…
“Self-Accountability” 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Excellently defined. Also the contrast between CSJ and DW is a great insight, because yet again we see CSJ making the exact same choices she made which led her family to ruin, but now she’s hiding behind ZW and using him as her sword. Even through her adversity, becoming a beggar, she learned NOTHING! All she sees is revenge and pride, but she fails to realise the people successfully taking revenge have really foregone their pride, there’s no pride in revenge. YZJ has crawled from the gutter and had to fight dogs for food, DW had to fight men and sharks in order to survive… CSJ ran from thieves and lost her father due to their own family’s karma but still fails to take accountability and believes her fight is valid. But is it thought? When ZW told her about the ZHENG AND CUI family’s massacre on the Yan family she simply states “it’s business”… I lost all hope for her then, she has no redeeming qualities, zero self awareness and self accountability. Even until now she doesn’t believe her actions also allowed for the destruction of her family, she blames YZJ, ZW, remember she also blames DW for the Pearl farm fire… she blames everyone and their sisters but sees no fault in herself or her family.
Also guys I’m loving these discussions! The insights from everyone is AMAZING and really adds to understanding the story.
people are used to unrealistic, fantasy and cutesy/romance dramas especially in cdrama land and when they see…
This is facts! I watched In Blossom recently, second attempt and goodness was I highly disappointed. I had no choice but to drop it because of JJY! I think her approach to acting a character that’s meant to be a strong female lead is to dumb them down to prissy silly girls and that gets old fast! When your career requires you to grow and you can no longer get roles as a prissy princess in your 40s how will you maintain when you’ve never shown range in your acting? I think that’s why the likes of Crystal Yu etc(I forget her name right now) have careers that will span decades because they have shown range! ZLS has a very long career ahead of her, she is not in the same league, her scripts are clearly very intelligently chosen and if she were to whether Hollywood I’m sure she will thrive! This girl has RANGE! The sweet face fools you 😂😂
So I tried to stop before they separated and wait it out before continuing >
It hasn’t… I stopped before the TRAGEDY! And o was it worth it… I cried! I picked it back up last night and now waiting on episode 28 and 29! It was worth it.
though I want YZJ to live and reconcile with DuanWu..I don't have a problem with her choosing 2ML either, he is…
I don’t have a problem with it either. He’s a really good man and not haunted. The thing is YZJ is haunted and weighed down by his course towards revenge! He will NEVER be peaceful until that blood debt is paid. Whereas SML in terms of character and generosity, he’s very similar to DW. Kind, driven and most importantly not burdened but seeks to do what’s right just like her. *sigh* First time I’ve routed for a SML in a drama ! The growth !!!
I've been thinking...I don't think DW should consider that “everything that's happening” was her fault, due…
I understand, but here’s the thing, in life just in general outside of the show… when things happen to you in life, it’s best to blame yourself because the only thing you can control in this life is your own actions! Once you blame yourself you can CLEARLY see your faults and do better next time. I think her blaming herself is part of the growth. Maturity is seeking to see your own wrongdoings first before looking for fault in others, because why? You can only control what you do next to make sure the same thing doesn’t keep happening to you. She’s learning from each experience. And I think we need to respect YZJ for giving her that opportunity even though we all want a reunion, she can’t rely on herself if she believes someone will always come to save her.
YZJ is the only person with VALID reason for revenge! They literally massacred his whole family in cold blood! The rest of them are fighting to save their asses and hide their crimes. But as you said, we can agree to disagree.
I think ZZH is setting up CSJ! He’s like an arrogant rich kid… he will always choose himself! He might be the son of a concubine but he’s not short of women. So far we’ve been seeing him ALLOW CSJ to lead him, but I think he’s just as cunning and meticulous as YZJ… I don’t know but there’s something about him I don’t fully trust. It’s like a Panda, because it’s cuddly and cute doesn’t stop its true nature, a WILD ANIMAL! He literally poured hot water on the hands of someone he was seemingly helping… he’s definitely a threat. I therefore take back about previous comments about a possible redeeming arc for him … he’s devious. I do not trust him.
CSJ… I give up. She’s not very intelligent is she? Not the smartest cookie but carrying around an undeserved male ego trying to prove what exactly !?!
READY and I HAVE BEEN READY for the fall of XNY! “The greedier you are, the quicker you fall” -YZJ And I don’t think this was aiming only towards XNY, I think this applies to CSJ also!
Love that our leads are coming back together!
I eagerly await episode 31 n 32!!!
I need to watch episode 26 again so I can identify these areas you’ve mentioned. I noticed something was off with Yuchi at Languan Dock yard but I wasn’t able to answer my questions because literally nobody in the series has mentioned it. They’ve all been focused on LK the leader of the bandits.
However, I do believe YZJ and DW are very aware of the betrayal! Not one of them sought him for assistance in their escape. Furthermore, Shrimp gave us insight into his true character when he mentioned that he doesn’t like him even though he doted on him, because when he’s giving him sweets he’s kind but when he’s educating him he’s extremely strict. It comes across as a statement from a nagging child but a kind person will be just as kind in their teaching. (The English translation stated Strict, but I’m beginning to think the Chinese word probably meant more).
I think you’re partially right about ZJR attendant, but I won’t elaborate on why until I see the next few episodes and more light is shed on truths.
That scene was truly chilling! Blink and you’ll miss that cold detachment when ZZH mentioned the truth depths of her family’s crimes.
I look forward to ZZH arc though, I think he may be redeemable, because currently he’s being led by duty, but remember he has businesses to stand on without his family, so I’m hopeful for him. I don’t they why but I think his realisation and understanding that he’s just a pawn that can be disposed of at will like his brother may add to his character development.
Also can you shed light on what actually happened at Languan place, I think Yuchi was involved in the Black Bandits kidnapping DW and I think ZJR’s attendant was the mole to Prince Ying who gave away the plan. I don’t know but something is off with his attendant that I don’t trust. How did the Black Bandits infiltrate the convey? How did they know the plan enough to ambush and remember the army was meant to follow ZJR but in the Knick of time they received an order not to leave base, who was behind that intel? Is it just me suspecting the attendant and Yuchi?
Also guys I’m loving these discussions! The insights from everyone is AMAZING and really adds to understanding the story.