PaMiKa

https://kisskh.at/people/18975-jamie-juthapich for young mom's role. She's Thai-German and just appeared in Baker Boys as a HS student

It seems Ohm and Drake take every opportunity to munch during the real shoots on the set. They attack Jimmy’s crepe in ep. 10 [1/4] 15:35-15:41

At this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some Ph.D. dissertations about BBS in the near future

Yes, it is a re-post from youtube. His comment on ep. 5 is quite recent, from three days ago. Try to sort comments in Ep. 5 (4/4) part from the most recent down.

Sometimes less is more!

Found it!

Thanks! It was sooo bloody obvious, except to the undersigned...sad LOL

Yeah, I did not really realize it until it was too late... Btw, a stupid question: where do I find an edit function for a published post if accessing the site from a PC?

Yeah, I did not really realize it until it was too late... Btw, a stupid question: where do I find an edit function for a published post if accessing the site from a PC?

# 2. An ep. 8 analysis, with a focus on 4/4. Hats off, courtesy of and credited to a YT user TELOMEKE (a v. long read that went into the spoiler tag above).

Credit to director Backaof and the screenwriters… Not much screentime available before they had to launch P+P into the swirling maelstrom of hate emanating from their respective factions and families, but we still get to see real growth between Pat and Pran, especially in this episode.

The starting scene of Episode 8, with Pran waking up in a panic and mistaking the smell of Pat’s cooking for a fire, is almost a direct replay of the start of Episode 5, right down to the same joke they tell about fire spreading from one residence to the other – except that the roles and lines are neatly reversed. I didn’t notice it before, but this was basically the director and screenwriters signalling to us to expect more of PatPran switching things up later in Episode 8…

Previously Pat was always the manly pursuer and Pran the feisty object of affection, fighting off the attention and inwardly fighting his own feelings. It would have been all too easy to paint these two characters with the usual broad BL brushstrokes, with Pat the taller, athletic, masculine princeling and Pran all frosty and distant, rendered in delicate shades of ice princess. We’re fortunate the team subverts this stereotype of masculine top dog and his tropey wife (sorry, couldn't resist 😂) whenever they get the chance.

So we have rugby-playing Pat matched by rugby-playing Pran (Ep.4 [4/4]) – but Pat plays because it’s what is expected of him (Ep.7 [1/4] 12.16), while he's really still just a big kid at heart who needs to cuddle his Nong Nao to fall asleep (Ep.7 [2/4] 5.46). He’s also skipping rugby for MUSICAL THEATER, haha. Then, in scenes of them rough-housing, Pran usually ends up on top, often with the upper (tickling) hand (and Pat always has to yield first – see Ep.2 [4/4] 11.25 and Ep.7 [2/4] 9.41 – Pat actually goes “Okay. I surrender!”). The Ketchup Kiss (Ep.8 [1/4] 3.52) is also an example of Pran taking control. 😊

It’s also not insignificant that Ep.8 [1/4] starts with a moment of chaos in Pran’s room, with the burning sausage (let’s not get too Freudian here 😂) and the previously-bare headboard of the bed now messy with random sticky notes and photos of the two of them, all askew. Pran’s usually ordered world is beginning to loosen up a little, and Pran himself does too. While he’s still communicating his feelings for Pat with doodles and sticky notes at Ep.8 [2/4] 5.09 to 6.26, by the end of Ep.8 [4/4] he’s grown in confidence enough to match his actions (and signs and symbols) with words spoken. At first I thought it was Pat who took the initial steps at next-level communication, in terms that would be more familiar to Pran. He began to communicate at a more heartfelt level, in a way that Pran would understand best (possibly learning from all the smiley faces and YES the toilet paper at Ep.8 [2/4] 5.54) when he got a new earphone case for Pran at Ep.8 [3/4] 7.59. The case has a double P on it (not obvious at first sight, standing for Pat + Pran) that Pran sees immediately, but that Pat denies being aware of (unconvincingly – his smile at Ep.8 [3/4] 8.36 shows he’s only pretending, and Pran knows this). Of course the bag that Pran’s always carrying has a double P on it that reads like a single P at first glance, and it’s been in every episode so far (Ep.1 [3/4] 7.00, Ep.2 [1/4] 3.01, Ep.3 [1/4] 10.03, Ep.4 [1/4] 11.02, Ep.5 [1/4] 3.26, Ep.6 [2/4] 1.44, Ep.7 [3/4] 2.48), and Ep.8 [1/4] 4.36). The bag is Pran silently telling the world about his feelings for Pat, and the earphone case is Pat echoing the messaging Pran sends out with his bag – here Pat is trying to communicate his love to Pran (acknowledging their relationship) using visual metaphors only, a language that Pran understands well.

But just before that, it was Pran stepping up, reaching out with a phone call, initiating a conversation across their balconies (instead of Pat), suggesting a virtual hug, and cheering Pat up with his mimed elevator and escalator antics. The virtual hug and the miming were just the sort of physical goofballery Pat is known for (see Ep.3 [2/4] 3.25 and Ep.3 [3/4] 8.40 for just a couple of examples), so this shows it was Pran who came out of his shell first -- growth goals! -- instead of Pat, to try communicating in the language of the other. And Pat always sleeveless or shirtless – yes, it’s an opportunity to attract more eyeballs with Ohm’s physique, and they do capitalize on it (not that I’m complaining). But it’s also a signal that Pat is usually the one who’s always open to the world with nothing to hide, not all buttoned-up the way Pran is (or was) with his long sleeves, tightly-scheduled morning routine (Ep.2 [1/4] beginning at 1.18) and his meticulously-arranged coloring kit (Ep.1 [1/4] 2.06).

After their fight backstage we get to see (at 3:00) Pat bare, elemental, alone and naked on stage (well, as close to naked as TV honchos and the storyline will allow), then hammering out his naked emotions, vulnerable and raw, on the Thai ranat ek at 3:54 – this time it’s Pat who’s wordlessly sounding out to the world how he feels, instead of Pran. Whether he knows it or not, he’s speaking Pran’s language, and Pran gets the message IMMEDIATELY (remember in Ep.8 [2/4] 10.3 Pran as Kwan says “Only music is genuine and never deceives me”) – and after the performance Pran shows his growth and approaches Pat to apologize backstage. We then see each shifting even MORE across the line previously drawn so hard on the ground between them...

Pat who’s always been an open (Instagram Story) book agrees with Pran’s “Just because I’m not telling people doesn’t mean I don’t like you” (at 7:20) and then says he won’t post any more signs of their relationship online. But Pran then tells him to continue posting, even though it makes him uncomfortable – before FINALLY admitting “I’m your boyfriend” at 7:50. It’s the first time he’s acknowledged it out loud, properly in the affirmative, which is a big step for him – so no wonder Pat is visibly moved at 8:02. TLDR… ;)

By the end of Episode 8, both Pat and Pran were trying to speak in each other’s love language (Pran declaring “I’m your boyfriend” for the first time ever at 7:50, and Pat allowing his emotions to be felt first by Pran, rather than just blurting them out at 3:54). There’s something in this for followers of both camps (whether you speak your love out loud or let it simmer unseen). Both Pat and Pran have grown in the short time since they got together as a couple. It’s beautifully handled, and OhmNanon do the scenes and script justice in taking PatPran to a deeper, more meaningful level in their relationship.

Alas, it's not mine, it's a repost! I wish I had such sensibility!

Since I am sick to my BBS head, I’ve tallied YT comment engagement for each part. They are reaching 149K in total.
Top most commented parts (approx. values):
5 4/4 19K
7 4/4 7.5K
6 4/4 7.5K
10 4/4 7.1K
1 1/4 6.7K
5 4/4 & 10 4/4 being the most dynamic for the time being.
The least commented one is 4 2/4 at 960.
At a first glance, it seems Spanish is the second most-used language by far, with a smattering of Portuguese, Thai, Tagalog, Bahasa Indonesia, Korean, etc.

The fight scene starting at Ep.5 [4/4] 2:22 was full of drama but also really disorientating (for me, at least). I found it so difficult to align with the characters’ emotions because all three entered the fray for different reasons. It’s only upon re-watching that their motivations and points of view become clearer…

Not surprisingly, Wai’s reactions during the confrontation were the most open and perhaps easiest to decipher. In most conflicts, when battle lines are clearly drawn, it’s easy (lazy, even) to want to portray things as falling neatly into binaries – good v. evil, black v. white, Archi v. Engineering, Montagues v. Capulets, Jets v. Sharks, them v. us… But just as the rivalry between Pat and Pran was a messy, man-made construct thrust upon them as kids, real-life conflicts are rarely all that clear-cut. Unfortunately for Wai, he was deep in the trap of binary thinking when he waded into the confrontation. After his gloating over the Engineering boys losing the song contest at Ep.5 [4/4] 0:27 (and not knowing that Pat and Pran were anything but rivals, let alone friends or more), from his point of view Pat was clearly just a sore loser looking to take out his frustrations on the winners.

So of course Wai was aggressive but also befuddled, blown off course when he sensed (he’s a smart boy after all) unfamiliar undercurrents buffeting the PatPran ship, prompting him to ask Pran “What’s your problem with this guy?” at Ep.5 [4/4] 3:40, and “Are you sure there’s nothing going on here?” at Ep.5 [4/4] 4:42. For Pat, the fight was the culmination of the mounting, bewildering realization that he had fallen in love with Pran. Pa’s love guru advice (starting at Ep.5 [2/4] 2.18) had comically shown Pat that he and Ink most definitely were not a match. And no one was more surprised than Pat when he – never one for introspection and up until then hilariously clueless at how to navigate his own feelings, needing his younger sister’s guidance – began to realize in the music shop starting at Ep.5 [2/4] 6.56 that it was really Pran tugging at his heartstrings.

But it was Korn’s advice (Ep.5 [2/4] 10.30) that truly hit home – Wai’s phone call to Pran at Ep.5 [2/4] 12.16 not only proved to Pat he was definitely in love with Pran, it also unleashed feelings of jealousy that he never knew existed. Pat ALSO started becoming aware that his feelings for Pran were actually reciprocated, when he began reflecting on the songwriting process that they went through together in high school (Ep.5 [3/4] 0.25). Pran might have been thinking it, but in fact it was Pat who suggested out loud that the song be about their own relationship (Ep.5 [3/4] 1.35). Instead of rejecting the idea, Pran seemed to change the subject to writing about secret crushes instead. We now know he had instead combined the two themes into one song, about his secret love for Pat while they continued to live out their strange relationship of being not quite friends but not quite enemies either. The lyrics of the song were another of Pran’s cryptic ways to tell the world about his hidden feelings for Pat. Watch Pat’s awakening during Pran’s performance of the song in the present day (Ep.5 [3/4] starting at 8.06) – with Pran’s voice sounding in his ears, declaring unrequited love with every line, he remembers their time in high school, writing that song together, and Pran’s surreptitious sidelong glances at him (Ep.5 [3/4] 8.32 and 8.36). The realization about Pran’s long-held feelings for him dawns at Ep.5 [3/4] 8.43 (“This is not what a friend would do or say”). These are the words and actions of someone MORE than a friend who LOVES you, dude. 😊

But then he sees Pran smiling (innocently enough) at Wai mid-song (Ep.5 [3/4] 8.48) and remembers how Pran smiled at HIM when they first performed the song back in high school (Ep.5 [3/4] 8.55) – and the thought that he could lose Pran to Wai takes root at Ep.5 [3/4] 9.03. He then FEELS Pran’s devastation when they were first split up, via a series of painful flashbacks (starting at Ep.5 [3/4] 9.20) when their burgeoning high school relationship (little more than a platonic friendship for him at the time) was cut short, and he would surely have realized by then that in the present day all of these circumstances (new and old) combined could still drive him and Pran apart, as had happened before.

So when Pat waited up for Pran at the base of their dorm, bearing a little gift that was actually the fulfilment of a promise made at Ep.5 [2/4] 8.52, it was no wonder that the jealousy he felt in Pran’s room at Ep.5 [2/4] 12.16 boiled over into rage when he saw Pran arriving with potential love-rival Wai instead. That’s why he was saying things like “Tell him!” (Ep.5 [4/4] 3:57), “It’s between me and him” (Ep.5 [4/4] 3:37), “Why?... …Are you afraid he would find out?” (Ep.5 [4/4] 3:14) and “Do you care about him that much?” (Ep.5 [4/4] 3:31), all utterances of a wronged, wounded lover tired at being kept a secret. Pat’s sarcastic reply “Defeated by that lousy song. Why would I feel anything?” (Ep.5 [4/4] 2:55) was particularly barbed, since he had felt so much emotion hearing Pran sing it, and he had also realized by then how much of that emotion was shared by Pran too. So Pat was motivated by jealousy, and the searing thought that their mutual love, that he’d only so recently discovered, might be extinguished before it even had a chance to burn fully aflame.

But from Pran’s POV – he didn’t know Pat had figured out his feelings and was also returning them. Pran may possibly have thought that Pat was upset he’d used THEIR song to win the contest (the surprise he expressed at this notion on the rooftop later – Ep.5 [4/4] 8:26 – seemed more of a taunt than anything). Anyway, he was also sticking to their worn playbook and their defined roles as chief Archi v. Engineering rivals (thinking Pat would co-operate on this), with Wai their unsuspecting audience. (He showed this at Ep.5 [4/4] 2:37 – an acting masterstroke by Nanon there – when he dropped his feigned swagger to risk a shiftily unsure glance at Wai, before climbing on-script again and asking Pat “Why? Is it so hard to accept defeat?”.) But Pat was clearly in no mood for the dissembling theatrics, deflecting Pran's intentions and choosing instead to pretend about something else at Ep.5 [4/4] 2:44 – using sarcasm to suggest that he hadn't been affected by their song at all (Liar! 😉).

Nevertheless, Pran had no inkling of Pat’s true feelings, as he thought that Pat was still interested romantically in Ink, after all. And so he read the “Tell him!” at Ep.5 [4/4] 3:57 simply as Pat urging him to tell Wai that their enmity was faked (not knowing Pat was in reality threatening to expose their mutual feelings of love). Pran was fighting – as always – to keep the truth hidden, just not the truth Pat was trying to expose. And just as Wai was confused by Pran's attempts to lower the temperature, Pran was also confused by Pat's angry refusal to play along at being life-long enemies in front of Wai.

So yes it was a confusing watch, but if you look closely there are signs of their inner motivations. Single-minded Wai’s were the simplest to read – he was just angry at Pat, clearly the enemy from Day One. But when Wai asked Pran accusingly if there was something more going on – watch the panic in Pran’s eyes, fearful of his play-acting being found out, during the long pause starting at Ep.5 [4/4] 3:41 (whose tension that dear Jimmy – bless him! – could not resist breaking at Ep.5 [4/4] 3:46). When Pran grabs Pat at Ep.5 [4/4] 3:07 – he does it not to fight, but to stall Pat’s CLEARLY non-offensive, tentative and tender approach just a second before, and to whisper urgently “What’s wrong with you? It’s not the time to be silly, Pat.” And just look at Pat’s HANDS when Pran grabs him a second time in an effort to shut him up at Ep.5 [4/4] 4:01 – they’re open-palmed in surrender, not ball-fisted for a fight – he’s there to come clean with all his roiling feelings for Pran, certainly not to take him down. TLDR… ;)

The imbroglio starting at Ep.5 [4/4] 2:22 was perhaps more a confrontation than a fight scene – only two punches were thrown. Yet there was violence everywhere, under the surface, with deeply-felt passions raging concealed. All three characters had different motivations and points of view – everyone was looking at each other but seeing different things, and I think the resulting disorientation was intentional, emphasized by the shaky camerawork, shifting in and out of focus. Everyone remembers Episode 5 for the epic rooftop kiss at the end (and yes it is deserving of every accolade). I think we also need to offer up as much respect for this very powerful, carefully-crafted, hard-hitting scene here too.

An analysis of a possible state of mind for PatPran & Wai during the ep. 5 [4/4] confrontation scene. It’s a v. long read, that's why it goes in the spoiler tag. Hats off, courtesy of and credited to a youtube user Telomeke.

Not really, I am afraid ;-)

Seriously, whoever at GMMTV is curating the soundtrack for BBS, and for Not Me too, should get all the accolades possibile IMHO. Finding and selecting existing compositions that are appropriate to a given scene, and remastering them to suit a particular mood doesn't sound like an easy task. I am very far from being a music expert but, honestly, I love what I hear and see. I am wondering how they are affiliated to Epidemic label. They have incorporated quite a few of their musical pieces

I'd like to be a fly on the wall in the GMMTV execs suite and listen to what they have to say about the BBS (can we say phenomenal?) success and its international reach...

👏👏👏👏 R u in the film industry or with a related training? Those are very concise replies!

This! Also, different countries may have different cultural approach to moving houses, even for bureaucratic reasons. Btw, plot-wise, the animosity between two families is fairly recent; they were close friends up to that fateful scholarship debacle. I could imagine the original buidling lots could have been in the ancestral hands for more than a few generations, for example.