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If you have access to avistaz.to, it's on there with subs.

I think he's still stuck in the loop. Here's why:
Exit 8 wasn't really an exit. It was an anomaly (because apparently in the game, you also have to play Exit 8 before you can actually exit). So he first had to go down the stairs & look for an anomaly and THEN he would be able to exit.

If it was a real exit, when he went down the stairs he should have been able to walk out the station. Also the other people around wouldn't be going UP the stairs (where the ML just came from) to EXIT the building. That to me means that the real exit is somewhere up the stairs where the crowd is heading. The ML then noticed it was an anomaly when he saw everyone else going up the stairs toward the REAL exit.

He tells his GF "I'm coming", which indicates that he's now ready to be a father to their unborn child (he was very uncertain & indifferent before). At the same time though, he realizes that he will have to start the game all over again since he messed up the last play, and that's overwhelming for him. That's one of the reasons why his eyes filled up with tears (other reasons I think is because he was deeply moved meeting his future son & now positively overcome with the thought of him being born for real now). It's also why this time around, instead of remaining passive while that obnoxious man harass the mother & baby, he was convicted to doing something, because fathers protect children.

His encounter with his future son gave him the courage to confront the guy on the train. Remember the mom/his GF told him, protect your son & then later on he will protect you. By defending the mother & baby, he's protecting his son (the baby represents the son) and then as he now goes thru the game again, his son will be there to help & guide him.

You're trying to reason with mentally ill bandwagonist otakus who are not able to think critically. They will attack you viciously for using your brain and not falling in line. A few years ago when Kim Hyun Jung (I think that's his name) was caught up in a massive scandal where his ex-girlfriend accused him of violence, impregnating her & abandoning the child, it was also a total shit storm. At the time I was more convinced by the GF's allegations, given the available evidence (and the fact that KHJ eventually confessed to avoid jail time). I tried to make similar logical arguments like you're doing, but people, at least on this site, were not able to be objective. His fans were literally batshit crazy; foaming at the mouth & coming for everybody who wasn't defending him.

I have no loyalty to fandoms & toxic ideologies like Believe ALL women. I don't believe all women & I don't care who has a problem with that. That so-called movement should have never become a thing in the first place because a person by virtue of being a woman is NOT exempt from human corruption. What I believe in are FACTS, so whether I'm a fan of someone or the alleged victim is a woman, these have no bearing on my consideration of the facts as they're available. But don't tell that to irrational, emotionally unstable people. They will only attack you even more viciously.

I haven't been deeply invested in this current case with KSH, but I've been cascually following along since the news broke. By the available evidence, I am not convinced of the vile things people are accusing this man of. When exactly did they start dating??? People are saying she was a minor. But in Korea everyone under the age of 21 is legally, I think, considered a minor. So you can be 18 or 19 yrs old and under Korean law you're a minor, even while fully engaging in adult pursues. Don't quote me on this, but I seem to recall that when I was in Korea a few years ago, someone told me this.

What I don't get is saying that he got with her as a "minor". If they were together for 6 years and she was 24 at the time of death, wouldn't that make her around 18 when they became involved? Young, certainly, but hardly a "minor". I know in Korea you're not legally considered an adult until you're 21 or something like that. I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think I read that somewhere a few years ago when I was in Korea. Anyway, even if by Korean standards she wasn't considered an adult, I don't get someone calling someone, aged 30 at the time, a PDF for dating an 18 yr old. That's kind of odd. Or do people mean he started dating her prior to her being 18?

Waited so long for subs for this. Been wanting to watch this since forever because I love ML. Finally found it on kisskh.co. Subs were not good, but you're able to follow along.
As the poster says (in Korean) this is a passionate melodrama about a forbidden love. Two world weary people meet in the most unlikely of places and fall in love. The mood & tone of the film does not make you optimistic for a happy ending, but I can assure anyone who wants to know that this ended on a surprisingly positive note. The plot itself was rather touching to me. Basically the moral of the story is that life can be shit sometimes, you know. But if we don't give up, there's always a silver lining somewhere around the corner. You get some hot sexy time & sweet moments. I liked it & could see myself rewatching this at some point down the line, hopefully with better subs. 7.5/10

Omg, thank you so much for writing this. Now I know to stay far away from this drama! Kissing & sleeping with another man? The ML a simp AND a cuck? What in the actual F?!?

What worked well:
The relationship dynamics were genuinely excellent. The couple had strong chemistry, engaged in witty banter, and communicated openly about their perspectives and problems. I appreciated the mature approach—no love triangles, no manufactured misunderstandings, just two adults working through issues together with mutual support.

What fell short:
Despite the promising chemistry, the physical intimacy was disappointingly restrained. The trailer suggested a much sexier, more passionate connection than what was delivered. The kisses were lackluster and infrequent, and there were no intimate scenes or even references to physical intimacy. Even Love Ambition, which had similar issues, at least offered some satisfying romantic moments.

The drama also suffered from excessive workplace content. While some insight into their careers and how the Chinese 996 work culture affects daily life and health is valuable, the balance was completely off. The first half of the show devoted entire episodes to business dealings and office dramas that added nothing essential to the story. The second half was only slightly better. It felt less like a romance drama and more like a corporate procedural.

As the show progressed, my interest waned & it was easy to put it on pause. The couple alone couldn't sustain my engagement, and I wasn't invested in the supporting cast. It's a shame, as the potential was clearly there.

Rating: 6.5/10 overall | Relationship quality: 7/10 (would've been 8/10 with better romantic chemistry and intimacy)

Season 3 could have been a nice to have addition (if somehow they could've done something novel with the concept), but wasn't a need to have. The most glaring issue for me is Arisu and Usagi's dynamic: they're like the most boring married couple I've ever seen on TV. They've transformed from an endearing awkward pair into what feels like a passionless couple with sibling-like chemistry. The tentative connection that made their interactions cute & compelling in seasons 1 and 2 has completely evaporated now that they're established partners. Unfortunately, underdeveloped romantic relationships are a common weakness in Japanese dramas.

The season offers little innovation in terms of story or games. We're presented with the familiar formula: diverse characters each carrying emotional baggage, facing survival challenges we've essentially seen before. One reviewer aptly called this a cash grab by Netflix, and it's hard to disagree. There's no meaningful story progression or character development to justify another season. It's simply the same characters navigating the same type of obstacles in the same world.

Like Squid Game's third season, the initial shock value has worn off, leaving a show that remains watchable but no longer captivating. You won't find yourself on the edge of your seat. The last game was boring & most of the last episode itself made no sense. But hey, at least we had a positive ending.

Rating: 7/10 — The core format still works if you're new to this type of survival drama. For returning viewers, however, the magic has faded. This concept thrives best as a limited series rather than an extended franchise.

One of the most absurd films I've ever seen. Don't know if we're supposed to take it seriously or as parody. All I know is that it was f**king brazen at being bad.

I only watched S1 (83 eps) & skim watched a few eps of S2. I get a lot of Andrea's frustrations, esp when it comes Grace, but she was also very annoying. I didn't like how Anton always became her emotional pushing bag with all of her constant accusations, whining, nagging and victim playing.

There were instances when her anger was justified, but there were also times when she displayed a total lack of self-reflection & accountability. She was always demanding that Anton & the kids, but esp Anton, be sensitive of her feelings, but she never displayed any sensitivities for HIS feelings or perspective. Somehow she always managed to turn the blame around on Anton even when she was at fault. No accountability whatsoever.

Anton didn't always exercise good judgement, but at least he was quick to own up to his mistakes and shortcomings and made an effort to do better. Andrea, however, was always very conceited. That's why I had a love/hate feeling toward her. Everything was about her & her feelings, needs & demands. And if Anton tried to stand up for himself a bit, she threatens to leave.

Anton was so insecure about being left a second time that he put up with a lot of nonsense from her that he shouldn't have. He did everything she demanded because she truly had him henpecked, but still at his smallest mistake, she was ready to go. He's constantly walking on egg shells in that marriage. Who wants to live like that?

At many points in the show I just wanted him to let her go & live peacefully with his kids. Marriage isn't happy wife, happy life. It's happy spouse happy house. Anton learned this lesson from his first marriage & tried to be a better husband in his 2nd marriage. Before marriage Andrea seemed to also understand this concept, but once it came down to the actual nitty gritty, she had no interest in "happy spouse, happy house". It was her way or the highway. Everything she thought, felt, observed was RIGHT and no other perspective was tolerable or possible. That's when I could no longer commiserate with her.

Honestly, Anton deserved better. Given the effort he puts into their relationship, to the verge of almost getting himself killed, he deserved a woman whose first inclination wasn't to leave him high & dry each time the going gets tough.

What's the controversy? Is he a married man? Has it turned out that the "woman" he was talking to is child/underage? Otherwise, where is the controversy exactly? He's a young man doing what young men do. Hitting on women. Unless the woman is underage, married or in some other way compromised, what's the problem??? What am I missing here?

How very intelligent of you, well done! 🙄
I think it's demontratively obvious who the idiot is here. How about you f**k off back into your little mudpit where you belong & don't come back out. Clearly the internet is too much for your fragile mental health.

Two things can be true at the same time, genius. I praised the production values & acting, but criticized the poor writing of certain characters. That's the job of a critic.

Right! I used to be A LOT more active on here, but I stopped a few years ago. Too many crazies on here. I log on once in a blue moon now just to keep track of my lists & see what new dramas are coming out. And even though I rarely comment, the weirdos always find me. SMDH 🙄

What to do when you live in a culture where nobody speaks up about their true feelings?
Toko's husband had his faults, but he wasn't evil. She could have done more to save her marriage & family. First & foremost by actually communicating how she feels & not expecting her husband to automatically know what's in her mind. Instead she does the unthinkable & acts like she's the victim. Tsk. The love story between her & the ML could have been sweeter, had it not been tainted by the cheating. I've always enjoyed the acting of the ML, though, so I don't regret watching this. Plus, great filmmaking all around. And interesting social commentary. Japanese society just seem to set its citizens up to fail in every way. Sigh. 7.5/10

I agree. Although Kurata may have shown more consideration to her, I don't know if it's really true love or if he just wants someone to be with in his dying hour. After all, nobody wants to die alone, right? The husband clearly had his faults, but he wasn't evil. Toko should have spoken up about her dissatisfaction & gave her husband a chance to amend his behaviour. Men aren't mind readers. The excuse that she didn't speak up because she wanted to put the family first, complete nonsense! You put your family first by avoiding your problems & pretending like they're not there? WTF??? Furthermore, isn't marriage counseling a thing in Japan? Is the only way to fix a rocky marriage to cheat & then abandon your family? Grr, the whole thing is so infuriating.

If this is a case of self-deletion, which it likely is, these things are a lot more complicated that some hate comments on the internet. Every time this happens people on this site get all up in arms & have a kneejerk reaction about how the person was being bullied online, often without any clear evidence of such (or that the person in question was even aware of the full scope of what is said online).

I'm by no means saying it doesn't happen, because of course it does, but my point is, suicide is often rarely spontaneous or a result of just one thing. Most entertainers after a while don't read online comments or articles about themselves anyway. They learn very quickly, exactly because netizens can be so unrelentingly harsh, that no good will come of doing so. She wasn't a newbie to showbiz; she probably had good insight into how it operated & took those basic steps to protect herself.

Anyhow if suicide is indeed how she passed, I'm disheartened that she saw this option as the only way out. A young life gone too soon. Hope she finds eternal rest.

Not a bad summary of the challenges facing SK. However, I actually don't think the backlash against Feminism is a bad thing. We've all been brainwashed into thinking feminism is the fight for equal rights. In fact, there's no such thing as "equal rights" (which is basically a moniker for equal outcomes, an impossible feat) when you really think about it. As there is always friction & competition between groups, with each fighting for or wanting to maintain supremacy.

Modern scholarship & real life experience (ie from most Western nations which have come the farthest in adopting feminist ideology), show that feminism is not and probably never was about equal opportunity, as is claimed. It's exclusively a female supermacist movement, (which technically should be fine, given that all groups aim for supremacy, but purveyors of this ideology are never honest about its true intention). It manipulates both men & women with a false narrative, which is where the backlash tends to come from. We see the same backlash in Western countries too, just in a different form compared to Korea because they are at different stages of feminism. In Korea, there is fight against the ideology's proliferation in society whilst in the West, there is a fight to course correct now that critics see feminism for what it truly is.

Many scholars and lay people are only now realizing the real end goal of feminist scholarship because the fight for women's basic human rights in its early iterations overlapped with the objectives of feminist ideology, which is female dominance. A matriarchy if you will. Afterall, one can not achieve any form of dominance when you have zero power even in its most basic form (ie, education or the right to make basic decisions).

Feminism, however, is disivive & ultimately does not foster reconcilation & understanding between the sexes. The profileration of "toxic masculinity" in feminist narratives is one such example. The idea that maleness in and of itself is inherently toxic & flawed. There may be toxic male behaviours (just as there maybe toxic female behaviours) but to push a narrative that says, just by being a man, you're toxic is highly divisive & sexist, and we see backlash against such dangerous narratives even in the west.

This leads into the next point about birth rate. I would not say that low birth rates are due to patriarchy. On the contrary. If anything, the proliferation of feminist ideology is more of a contributing factor to low birth rates than patriarcy. Under a patriarchy both men and women's lives are more regulated & there is an indelible expectation that women fulfil what is deemed as their "natural" role, to bear children. Korea, before the war, decidedly a far more partriarchal society than it is today, had birth rates of well over 2.2 children per woman. Now the ratio is under 1 child per woman. The issue of low birth rate is of course a complex issue with many contributing factors, but there is no doubt that the recent proliferation of feminist ideology in Korean society plays a big part, as it has in the West.

Let me add that I do see the need for gender reform in Korea, however, feminism is not the way to go about it.

I think you must have meant to respond to someone else because in my comment I didn't exempt any other race from the ramifications of hard living. I said hard living contributes to the aging process, which it absolutely does. And I didn't say this was exclusive to the Asian race. So what you going on about?

Totally agree! Unbelievable that that one player survived after being pumped full of bullets at point blank range. Like, wtaf? They should have been dead before they hit the ground!
Definitely lost at least 2 points from me for these kinds of illogical occurences. I could see this happening in a Kdrama, but it was unusual to see in a Jdrama. All the Jdramas I've watched so far have been very brutal & consistent in killing off characters who stay dead.