PrettyCarEye

I promise you, I read every word you wrote. And now that you've expanded upon your thoughts, I see what you're saying, but it's still not a very convincing argument because given what you say - he's more experienced in the industry, his father-in-law is famous ... that is BOON for HER career, no? Not a threat. I mean, he can give her guidance on a number of areas, he can perhaps introduce her to influential people, he can protect her from people who might want to take advantage of her etc. Therefore, SHE has a lot more to gain out of this relationship than he does. So where is the imbalance of power that negatively impacts her?

You're suggesting that just because he's older he manipulated her into having a relationship with him. No, honey ... that doesn't make any sense. They were together 3 yrs. Did you see their photos at the Cannes film festival last year? She was acting like SHE was the wife!!! Before her Instagram was closed, she had his pictures all up on her profile ... and there are countless paparazzi pics of them out and about looking happy & content like any normal couple. From the pics I've seen, they appeared to be two young people in love or at the very least enjoy each other's company. It's just a matter of happenstance that he's older than her. What if they were at or around the same age, and the same thing had occurred, what would have been your argument then? Do you see why I can't totally get onboard with what you're saying? I just get really frustrated when women are always given a pass for their bad behaviours, but men must always be hung out to dry. And rest assured, I'm no champion of men (bcuz God knows they always get themselves into to some F*** sh--!!), I am just a logical, fair-minded person.

Oh really and how would you know what is the norm or not in Japan??? I know how I know. And I can TELL you have NO clue what the heck you're talking about just by how stupid your entire comment is!

"You perhaps are an irreaponsable woman and you might give your husband a baby knowing it s not his child but i am pretty sure that the majority of women wouldnt do that..."

Are you for real? You call this a rebuttal that I'm supposed to take seriously & respond to? This is sooooo typical of people who DON'T have an argument so you resort to personal attacks. Smh. It's clear to me you understand NOTHING about human behaviour. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

Look, if you can't properly read, comprehend and WRITE the English language, don't respond to my posts because I will dog walk you the heck up off my posts. OK? As a matter fact, let me go ahead and just block you ... because people who come with dumba$$ rebuttals like what you wrote are not worth my time to debate with. #byefelicia!

Is knowingly entering into an illicit affair with a married individual right or wrong?

And that's where the hypocrisy of most Asian societies come in. The insipidly politically correct West may love to sugarcoat and cast aspersions on other societies and peoples (as if they're so much better), which is highly hypocritical & could be categorized by other 'isms' ... but this goes to show no place is perfect and every people, country, region and continent in this world has its positives and negatives.

It's all related to the Asian concept of 'losing face' - which is basically the loss of prestige, status. Anything that can make yourself or other people lose face should be heavily kept under wraps. When sh-t comes to light, you're categorically shamed and condemned by society to remind everyone else to stay in line, not because anyone really care about morality (all those calling for Masahiro & Erika's heads probably have a whole lot worst skeletons in their closets!). Do all the immoral, nefarious sh-- you want in private but don't let it ever come to light is basically how it goes. But oh ... how that bitch called Life has a way of messing with our most well-laid plans... :)

Oh this argument is such a cop out! Being young and stupid doesn't incapacitate your ability to know right from wrong. I've had my share of married men holler at me every single year of my adult life ... I sat their asses down right quick every time! Why? Because sleeping around with married men goes against my principles. I often say to myself that if I was married and my husband propositioned some woman, I'd hope she'd shut his ass down.

People regardless of how young they are don't have affairs because they don't know it's wrong, they do it because they're f'en selfish and they don't care about other people as long as their personal urges are met. Period. No ifs, ands or buts about it. They carried on this affair for 3 yrs! THREE years. It started when she was 19, today she is 22 and the affair would have likely continued had they not been caught. Heck, maybe even after they've been hung out to dry, they'll still continue the affair. Who knows! But 3 yrs ... and you say this girl is 'not as responsible'??? That's a whole relationship, lasting a lot longer than many marriages in this day & age. And in all this time she KNEW he was married with 3 children, yet she brazenly posts loved up pics of them on Instagram & wasn't afraid to be photographed with him out in public. Like wtf, how in the hell can you even justify that just because he's just barely in his 30s and she is not? Did he kidnap her? Hold her hostage against her will? Hey, maybe you have some information we don't! So tell us.

Until you do, though, stop infantalizing women and absolving them of their personal responsibility. You're pushing the very misandrist man-bad/female-good narrative & it's really getting f'en boring.

I said what I said, period. Unlike the rest of you posting here, I don't know ANY of these people in any shape or form to blame anyone for anything. I don't comment on grown folks' private lives like that without ANY facts. Y'all didn't wait to throw Masahiro and Erika under the bus about the affair when y'all don't know what kind of arrangement Masahiro & Anne had in their marriage. Perhaps Anne knew of the affair and was fine with it since it went on for 3 whole years! Because AGAIN things like this happen & is quite normalized in Japan. Did y'all wait for Anne to make a statement that the affair was a problem for her before you started casting stones?

But you want to come chastise me for stating a FACT of Japanese reality. Spear me please because I really don't have the patience to deal with your simplistic arguments today. It's best you just block me or I will block you because I've engaged with you before so I know your thought processes aren't particularly logical. The comment I made above in response to the other poster would also be for you. Please go and read it and take note!

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, however, just because everyone else loves to sugar coat AND bury their heads in the sand about a FACT of reality (and the consequences of said fact), *I* need not be as foolish. Extra marital affairs and outside babies are widespread realities of & throughout that country. THAT IS A FACT. I did NOT say the baby wasn't his. Heck, I did not even *suggest* the baby wasn't his. Reading comprehension is important.

Amidst all the widespread speculation and conjecture by keyboard warriors who have NO IDEA what's going on in these people's lives & relationships, I presented a number of alternative HYPOTHESES to challenge the common narrative. These hypotheses are based on known empirical evidence (for anyone who isn't too damn lazy to do their own research) of outside babies being a common occurrence in Japan. In case you don't know, a hypothesis is not a CONFIRMED CONCLUSION. It is "a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation".

The occurrence of so many extra marital affairs in Japan ending up with the women becoming pregnant with outside babies & to save their faces, both parties (husband & wife) agree to raise the child as if it were theirs is very REAL and very COMMON. This can not be ignored in FAIR discussions of these matters. Facts, reality don't CARE whether you think they're tacky or distasteful. It simply is what it is.

Even former Japanese prime minister Junichiro Kozumi's 3rd child is said not to be his due to the nature of how his marriage abruptly ended and Koizume's cryptic wording when talking about marriage & family, though he has never specifically commented on the matter as it relates to him personally. He also advised his first 2 sons never to marry, and when his 2nd son recently got married he relented & said something to the effect of: 'I guess it's a teaching moment to experience marriage at least once'. How romantic! This is further compounded by the fact that Koizume has NEVER met his 3rd son since his birth to this day, and he has never remarried. This is HUGE in a country where even though marriage is repudiated, everybody does it to save face. For people in high places, such as politicians, marriage is expected & Japan is nothing if not a VERY conformist society. Their favourite saying is the 'nail that sticks out must be hammered down'.

The fact that some 30, 40 odd yrs after his first divorce, he hasn't remarried and hasn't lived with anyone speaks volumes for a lot of Japanese people. He is not known to be gay. Yes, a part of the break up of the marriage was quite likely due to his own affair/s, but the possibility of an outside baby was also widely reported & accepted in Japan as the cause of the break up & Koizume's subsequent decision to never marry again.

So if you want to get mad at someone for stating these realities of modern day Japanese society, please go to the busy streets of Shibuya, get you a mega phone and call out the Japanese scholars & news media who report on these matters for being tacky & distasteful. I bet you don't have the gumption to do that, but you want to come shoot the messenger. Let's not be so cliche, sis. This ain't no k-drama.

'There was a huge power difference in terms of age and status' ... so what are you suggesting actually? What does that change? People of different ages and statuses marry & get into relationships every day. Are all these unions oppressive for the younger, no-status having party? As far as I know, she did not work for him. He was not her boss. A power imbalance only truly exists if he has the power to influence her career in any way, either negatively or positively. As far as I understand he did not have such influence. He may be more experienced as an actor, more well known and he's older, which we know ... age is a thing in Asia. But at the end of the day they're both actors, they work for other people - not each other. They were co-stars and are colleagues of the industry. Unless they're shooting a project together, they would have led totally separate professional lives. Moreover, she's not completely green behind the ears. Sure, she's young but she's popular in her own right ... in both Japan and Korea. It's not like she's some up & coming no-name actress. So under these circumstances what kind of power does he have over her other than he's older by few years? Does that absolve her of the responsibility that she made a conscious decision to have sexual relations and carry on a 3 yr illicit affair with a married father of (allegedly) 3? I don't want to put words in your mouth, that's why I'm asking you to clarify your position.

A lot of you commenting here don't even know how Japanese society works. Marriage is a cynical transaction to most Japanese, it is not about some sort of fairy tale sh--. It is a means to have children and maintain a stable & orderly society (that is, ensuring as many children as possible are born in wedlocked, two-parent homes) ... but otherwise the husband and wife basically lead separate lives from around 2 yrs & over. This is usually because the husband is NEVER home, esp if he works in corporate Japan, something that increases the risk of extra marital affairs tenfold. Then you have Japanese women (like many other women) whose whole world & attention tend to revolve around their child/ren, sometimes totally cutting out the husband.

Divorce is widespread & so is cheating on BOTH sides. Cheating from both parties is sooo normal in Japan, it is expected. And if/when you don't do it, YOU are the unicorn. THAT is the norm in Japan. Lots of people have open marriages, either voluntarily or involuntarily. For all we know, the wife may have had her own affair; that third baby might not even be his (things like these are VERY common in Japan, whether you choose to believe or not!). Or maybe the wife decided she wanted to have 3 kids with the same father & she needed his sperm, but not necessarily him. Another thing to consider is that while divorce is high in Japan, one of the highest in the region, it is still unpopular. So many people even though they've essentially become strangers to one another, would rather remain married but lead totally SEPARATE lives than divorce. I will not sit here and judge nothing, knowing what I know. No sir. They grown, they'll figure something out.

But I do want address one thing ... and it's you ma ... Lord, let me whole my tongue bcuz I know the admins on this site don't like me ... you ... individuals ... who anytime cheating scandals like this break out whether in the East or the West, you say the homewrecker bears no blame or fault. I really just want to ask you all ... WTF is wrong with y'all??? Are you all for real? So despite the fact that someone KNOWINGLY enters in an illicit affair with a married man (with THREE KIDS & keeps it up for THREE years) ... she a victim? I swear to God you all f'en kill me. YOU KILL ME!!!! Smfh

Wooow ... is this girl for real??? I can't believe she did that! Bloody hell!

He did forgive her, which makes me think he's even more sick in the head than her.

She did him so dirty. Damn!

The word you're looking for is 'postponed' this week due to Chinese New Year.
'Cancelled' would mean it's never coming back. 'Postponed' means it's on a temporary hiatus. I'm not a grammar nazi, but that's the old English instructor in me that sometimes can't help but come out. :-)

Your comment makes me wonder if *you* paid attention to the plot:

1. Emotional cheating is cheating. So he was attracted to her while he was still married, whatever. It can happen. Being attracted to someone else while married is not in and of itself cheating. However, it wasn't just a mere attraction that he had and tried to ignore. No, he constantly sought ways to be in her presence (even outside of work when it was not necessary) in an effort to encourage his feelings toward her. He didn't fight the temptation, he consciously & deliberately walked right into it. THAT is cheating. Opening yourself up to romantic idealization (instead of doing everything you can to avoid it) and sharing emotional intimacies with someone other than your spouse is emotional cheating, and it's just as bad as physical cheating. Some people believe emotional cheating is WORSE than physical cheating because Emotional Cheating involves the heart, which once gone ... might never return. As was exactly the case in this drama.

2. Yes, she did. She consciously & deliberately inserted herself between the two. When they were together and his wife called, she deliberately called out his name *to let the wife know* that she was with her husband. She was trying to sow suspicion, doubt and discord between them in order to push them toward break up! She also pulled other such stunts throughout the drama. If THAT is not the very definition of HOMEWRECKING then I don't know what to tell you. This woman was a complete B*TCH, and she knew it and didn't care! As long as SHE got what she wanted, she did.not.care.

3. She is the victim of a narcissistic asshole who GASLIGHTED (read up on this very abusive tactic that narcissists often use) her into thinking that she caused their divorce. Even though she asked for a divorce, she did not cause the divorce. HE DID! Yes, in her pain and anger she demanded a divorce, but truth of the matter is that he was looking for a way out & she inadvertently handed it to him ... so he luckily avoided having to ask for a divorce himself.

You talk about this drama being mature & realistic (and I guess it is, in showing how nasty, despicable & selfish human beings are)... then you should know that breakup is often mentioned when a couple is having a heated argument. Doesn't actually mean that the person really wants to break up! He never fought for his marriage, he knew she knew of his attraction to the other woman, he knew she felt insecure & jealous, but he never once tried to reassure her. He never once told her that no matter what he's not going to give up, he didn't tear up the divorce papers & refuse to go through with it. He didn't lift A FINGER to save his marriage. No, he went right along with the divorce as soon as she mentioned it because that's really what he wanted, but tried to pretend he was this good guy! Then he BLAMED her for ending their marriage when in actually THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE ORCHESTRATED. The guy is a major ASSHOLE with a capital A!

5. People may not be able to control their feelings, but there's such a thing as respect, thoughtfulness and loyalty! The reason why I hated CSH & YSY wasn't so much because they fell in love, but it was THE WAY they both treated the wife. They were disrespectful and downright callous toward her! They rubbed their illicit affair in her face and never once tried to understand her feelings or show any contrition for their wrongdoing. They were despicable and selfish from start to finish! YSY and NHJ were together for a long time. She supported him through some very terrible time in his life - when his business failed & he went bankrupt, she was by his side. Plus all the other times she supported him throughout the years. THE LEAST he could have done is show her a little respect & loyalty ... let her be angry until she's not angry anymore. Sincerely apologize to her, ask for her forgiveness, sincerely thank her for being by his side all those years through thick and thin ... then move on with his life. But no, he and his mistress spat in her face every chance they got. I'm not saying that NHJ was perfect & did no wrong, but at the end of the day HE cheated ... not her. So the onus is on HIM to make amends, regardless of whether they divorced or stayed together.

6. It's interesting that you should say KMW is trash ... yes, perhaps he is for being an unrepentant playboy. But at least his trash didn't stink as much as YSY. At least he was gentleman enough to treat his conquests with some level of thoughtfulness and honesty about his ways. He didn't pretend to be this good guy, but underneath was a roving wolf like YSY. While he had a weakness for women, he was at least a sincere person - the complete OPPOSITE of YSY, who was a narcissist and a manipulative liar. Moreover, I think he really fell in love with NHJ and tried his best to be a good husband to her.

Well, I'm not feeling that white wig on the ML's head and wut ... not even one kiss in the trailer? This doesn't bode well ...

This was pretty decent. Shows very well the ugliness of living for these dreary characters. A woman and man with low - esteem, how the wickedness of the world swallows them up & spits them out. There is no light at the end of the tunnel in this movie, it's pure darkness ... but it wasn't depressing for me, it was more of a cautionary tale (particularly one women often hear) or an affirmation for those already on guard. When you watch the movie you'll know what I mean. 8/10

What is the name of the movie?

If you like father-son bromance and people making and growing from their mistakes, then it's a decent watch. It's all about the leads reinventing themselves and starting a new chapter in their lives. If you like romance, there's not much here.

I know it's been a minute since you watched this drama, but do you remember if it has a happy ending, esp for Hawick's character? Thx!

It's just you.