In the heat of the moment...LC: you are mine.TT whispers: I am yoursOMGaaaaaaahhhh these two are smoking hot.
As an expert, Fu Yong Jie lit up the fire of Li Cheng's and Mu Ren's sex drive and gave them a push to lower their inhibitions. He is not called little devil for nothing by Li Cheng lol.
As an expert, Fu Yong Jie lit up the fire of Li Cheng's and Mu Ren's sex drive and gave them a push to lower their inhibitions. He is not called little devil for nothing by Li Cheng lol.
Honestly, this series is horrible. It's the worst writing you can imagine. It's the definition of trash. I mean,…
Out of all the pissbabies, the funniest ones are those who come over to a debate platform like this only to announce they do not want to discuss anything, they are not worth bothering to be convinced and probably even block those who try to do so regardless.
This becomes gradually intriguing as it progresses. I am very excited - but also quite scared - about where Win and Wit after life story line concludes.
A highly emotional, all stops out finale to a decent series. Beautifully shot, aesthetic love-making sequences which are at once romantic and turn you on. Heart-warming moments of domestic and family life full of joy and love. And a bravura wedding for the end, plus a lovely, anecdotic post-end credit scene. Those of us who have been with the characters through their long and hard journey, and felt and got excited for them, really deserved this relief.
In the end, I hope some YJ bashers came to a realization that he´s not an evil monster and I hope they also had…
Have you analyzed his sentences in this episode? For me it was heart-wrenching.
"Since you left that day, I've been thinking about how to get you back to my side. Should I hurt you? I couldn't. Lock you up? Then you'll never smile at me".
"What type of person am I? I don't even know. Even mom said she didn't understand me. My true personality is probably long gone".
" - I'll give you the most beautiful wedding ever. - Do you believe in those vows? - I don't. Whether it is love or marriage, the meaning of existence is not in itself, but in the people who make them. I don't believe in love, nor do I believe in marriage. But because of you, I am willing to believe in anything".
He is fully aware of his own damaged self and mental state, and he know that his life and possible healing has just started now that the person he loves is by his side, and that he has a lot to learn and heal. It made me teary-eyed.
The kind of ending I expected from Taiwan. Fans will be satisfying but as for the haters…just look at the comment…
They have probably been rehearsing for the Main Outrage Night for a long time. I am quite sure many of them have have already drafted the tantrum way before the last episode came to air.
Oh it does, I can list a group of people who fall in this group, NewSun, ourpeachscones, Bookie, Mash mallow,…
I have blocked some people too, but only when they started stalking and/or abusing me. But only then.
The remark in block capitals above (OR EVEN CARE ABOUT THE GROUPS THEY ARE FIGHTING ON BEHALF OF) is actually spot on.
They claim to be the torch-bearers of the LGBT community, but actually they don't give a fuck about them. They are just an excuse, a project tool for them to generate and spew hate they live and breath on. They are constantly whining for LGBT representation, "healthy" relationships, clean-cut couples, etc. , but when they see one they vanish like the fart in the seastorm. Look at the comment section of Papa & Daddy. They are nowhere to be found there.
Oh it does, I can list a group of people who fall in this group, NewSun, ourpeachscones, Bookie, Mash mallow,…
There is that Moon Over something too, I forgot her complete nick. Luckily I cannot see her tantrums anymore, I was blocked by the harpy once I dared to tell her to grow up and argue like an adult, after she made a post in which she declared that no one is allowed to reply to her under that post about that subject anymore. She is one of the queens of this attitude.
This comment is like a breath of fresh air. Thank you for bringing a nuanced take! The thought process in the…
Numbing nonsense from start to finish.
In any case, a grown up person makes the decision to drink and subsequently have sex with someone, without being forced, there is no one else to be blamed.
And that goes for XS and everyone else, especially if you are the one who initiates. You could have such expectations for the other person not totake the chance when you are drunk, BUT CONSCIOUS, yet you cannot call the other one "rapist" or "sexual assaulter" if they take that chance. You can hate them for the rest of your life, your choice, but you cannot call them rapists. No court would ever find them sexual assaulters either. Because that was consensual. XS and YJ had "clean-cut" consent as well. Their sex may not have been clean-cut, but that does not go for the consent. There was obvious consent.
Being taken advantage is when someone is black out drunk and incapaciatated and is being sexually assaulted by someone else, without their consent and knowledge. And that is clearly not the case here. Intoxicated sex is not assault. If that was the case the whole planet would be sexually attacking itself all time.
Like Truth Dares said below: "Another gigantic bullshit. Like I said you should probably visit some bars, night clubs, disco clubs or house parties where people knowingly drink to lower their inhibitions and increase their self-confidence to have consensual sex afterwards, just like what happened to Xing Si. Do you think people in those places above all commit crimes? Ridiculous. Once again, you don't know the difference between giving consent while intoxicated and being unable to give consent while incapaciated."
They also list various forms of consensual sex after alcohol consumption. You should probably educate yourself on the subject. A bit harder than labelling others, spouting buzzwords and escaping to safe space from your imaginary high horse, but a bit more compelling.
This comment is like a breath of fresh air. Thank you for bringing a nuanced take! The thought process in the…
Jong Yie did not assault his brother. Periodt.
Knowing that someone wants to have sex with you, but he is afraid of doing it due to his inhibitions, hence having him drunk (Not forcing him top drink! He was drinking on his own choice), then achieving him wanting to make consensual sex with you (Xing Si made the first erotic step, people constantly ignore this, because it does not suit the agenda) is called "SEDUCTION".
It may well be a shceming and morally reprehensible thing to do - as it was in this case - but it is anything but sexual assault.
The whole bloody debate has been going around this in circles for a month, becasue people cannot, just cannot make this rudimentary distinction.
An no, people have never been like "I'm not a bad person, because what happened wasn't bad" and no one has ever defended this action or said this was right. Even you and mzmariam cannot escape using strawman arguments and putting words into other's mouth.
What people like me have stated from the beginning that it is possible to condenm what he did as morally dubious and wrong, without classifying it as sexual assualt.
It is a perfectly nuanced POV, and it has been argued meticulously by several like-minded fellow viewers of mine.
The mother went a bit too quickly from hysterical " You are sick, we can cure this, you should be normal and married to a woman, you are selfish, I don't accept you" homophobic bitch to an accepting mom and grandma, especially since she already has a lesbian daughter. This show is full of unrealistic twists and turns, for all its enjoyable content.
"Since you left that day, I've been thinking about how to get you back to my side. Should I hurt you? I couldn't. Lock you up? Then you'll never smile at me".
"What type of person am I? I don't even know. Even mom said she didn't understand me. My true personality is probably long gone".
" - I'll give you the most beautiful wedding ever.
- Do you believe in those vows?
- I don't. Whether it is love or marriage, the meaning of existence is not in itself, but in the
people who make them. I don't believe in love, nor do I believe in marriage. But because of
you, I am willing to believe in anything".
He is fully aware of his own damaged self and mental state, and he know that his life and possible healing has just started now that the person he loves is by his side, and that he has a lot to learn and heal. It made me teary-eyed.
The remark in block capitals above (OR EVEN CARE ABOUT THE GROUPS THEY ARE FIGHTING ON BEHALF OF) is actually spot on.
They claim to be the torch-bearers of the LGBT community, but actually they don't give a fuck about them. They are just an excuse, a project tool for them to generate and spew hate they live and breath on. They are constantly whining for LGBT representation, "healthy" relationships, clean-cut couples, etc. , but when they see one they vanish like the fart in the seastorm. Look at the comment section of Papa & Daddy. They are nowhere to be found there.
In any case, a grown up person makes the decision to drink and subsequently have sex with someone, without being forced, there is no one else to be blamed.
And that goes for XS and everyone else, especially if you are the one who initiates. You could have such expectations for the other person not totake the chance when you are drunk, BUT CONSCIOUS, yet you cannot call the other one "rapist" or "sexual assaulter" if they take that chance. You can hate them for the rest of your life, your choice, but you cannot call them rapists. No court would ever find them sexual assaulters either. Because that was consensual. XS and YJ had "clean-cut" consent as well. Their sex may not have been clean-cut, but that does not go for the consent. There was obvious consent.
Being taken advantage is when someone is black out drunk and incapaciatated and is being sexually assaulted by someone else, without their consent and knowledge. And that is clearly not the case here. Intoxicated sex is not assault. If that was the case the whole planet would be sexually attacking itself all time.
Like Truth Dares said below: "Another gigantic bullshit. Like I said you should probably visit some bars, night clubs, disco clubs or house parties where people knowingly drink to lower their inhibitions and increase their self-confidence to have consensual sex afterwards, just like what happened to Xing Si. Do you think people in those places above all commit crimes? Ridiculous. Once again, you don't know the difference between giving consent while intoxicated and being unable to give consent while incapaciated."
They also list various forms of consensual sex after alcohol consumption. You should probably educate yourself on the subject. A bit harder than labelling others, spouting buzzwords and escaping to safe space from your imaginary high horse, but a bit more compelling.
Knowing that someone wants to have sex with you, but he is afraid of doing it due to his inhibitions, hence having him drunk (Not forcing him top drink! He was drinking on his own choice), then achieving him wanting to make consensual sex with you (Xing Si made the first erotic step, people constantly ignore this, because it does not suit the agenda) is called "SEDUCTION".
It may well be a shceming and morally reprehensible thing to do - as it was in this case - but it is anything but sexual assault.
The whole bloody debate has been going around this in circles for a month, becasue people cannot, just cannot make this rudimentary distinction.
An no, people have never been like "I'm not a bad person, because what happened wasn't bad" and no one has ever defended this action or said this was right. Even you and mzmariam cannot escape using strawman arguments and putting words into other's mouth.
What people like me have stated from the beginning that it is possible to condenm what he did as morally dubious and wrong, without classifying it as sexual assualt.
It is a perfectly nuanced POV, and it has been argued meticulously by several like-minded fellow viewers of mine.