Rahab75

I am one of those who called Fu Yong Jie creepy on several occasions, and I think he has some serious issues, yet at the same time I sympathize with his character. From what his mum told about him and from the locker room scene and the flashback with his stepbrother, it is clear that he is not a bad person. He probably carries some childhood trauma on his shoulders - as it was hinted, when he lived with his dad - and Ye Xing Si must have been the stable point of love in his life so far. Whatever wrong things he did, I know where heis coming from. That box ring scene was very cruel to him, I hated Li Cheng for that. My guess is that their storyline will be about Ye Xing Si helping Fu Yong Jie to get rid of his demons and stalking obsessions and change. Actually, it sounds like an interesting story line for me.

I have seen plenty of "stepbrothers=incest" complaints but way too few "age difference" judgements. Some peeps must be busy or sleeping.

I mean this one, for instance. Many of this seemed to be cut out from the version I saw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW8VLBRgxgI

The umpteenth time I come across with comments saying "romanticized stalking". Gawd, it was never romanticized. Every single stalking scene of Fu Yong Jie was shot in dark colours, shady angles and with sinister music on. He is a creepy, mentally damaged person with quite obvious childhood traumas behind him, and he is treated like that from day one. He is considered to be a borderline clinical case even by his own mum. His actions were condemned by everyone around, him attacking Mu Ren was even heavily over-sancioned by brutally beating him up in the box ring. Seriously, what happened to comprehension or is it hypersensitivity that even the existence of such character is unbearable to some?

Actually I would be interested in a domestic show about their life as a couple and how their rivalry in business affects their relationship, for example.

In episode 2 the ominous bed scene and Shi De's drunk conversation with the doc before that were pretty good demonstrations for Shi De's suffering.

That is pretty much my journey too. I was baffled by the implausibilities and some of the motivations and behaviours of the characters from the start, and I still am. But nevertheless I see several points in a different light now and some events seem to make more sense now than they did at the beginning. My favourite example is when Shu Yi ran away without saying a word when he saw Shi De with the blonde and the baby. Nearly everyone ranted about how out-of-caharcter that was and I wholeheartedly agreed with them. Knowing now what preceded before he decided to visit him, it is much less unlikely now. It is still not Lin Pei Yu's finest hour but I wait till the end. As some others previously said, this is a puzzle and we still don't know a lot of things.

The world literature is full of stories where the stepbrother marries the stepsister he is grown up with to general satisfaction, not least of the parents. When it is about two stepbrothers, it is "incest". I don't know how many people realize the bigotry and even homophobia behind this prejudiced stance.

I had zero expectations after the trailers but I was pleasantly surprised and I enjoy it so far, for all its flaws. Definitely not the usual History level but an inventive enough send up of the BL genres. I love its tendendy to self-mocking. The acting is fairly dynamic and solid, only Jun Peng and the fuyoshi ladies ham it up occasionally. As for MDL comments, nowadays you need microscope to find positive comments just about anything.

I did not intend to refer to the movie. It was sadistic. Fu Yong Jie is a creepy stalker who attacked Mu Ren, but he was punched back on set (so those insisting on eye for an eye should be content with that) plus he apologised. The poor kid clearly has issues and he needs help and care, not repeated beating up by an egomaniac yuppie just to show off his virility over a much weaker opponent. The way Mu Ren and Li Cheng were smiling at each other with glee and satisfaction over the boy wallowing in pain was downright disgusting. The locker room scene between Fu Yong Jie and Ye Xing Si was nice and heartwarming, but there should have been other ways to present it, considering how often Fu Yong Jie gets involved in fights in the first place.

The box match scene was atrocious and a totally unnecessary basic instinct mess.

Every time I see this bs when non-blood realted stepbrothers' romantic relationship is called incest, I could scream.

Exemplary, insightful and comprehensive contribution to the debate. Kudos to you, we are very grateful you shared this with us. People here and there commenting about BL very ofen forget and neglect we cannot claim Western values from these shows in all departments.

A neat-looking, well-played and intriguing little series with plenty of style as well as substance. The story is not exactly realistic but engaging. The ending is a bit rushed and abrubt, and just like most of the recent Korean BL series leaves some loose ends behind. The whereabouts of the mum - most likely she is dead - could have been better revealed or elaborated, for instance. But I loved it, needless to say.

The plot still has more implausible aspects than lucid ones, but at least some of the aspects now seem to make more sense. I am the one who quite rigidly said from the beginning that disapproving parent trope is very untypical of this writer and I kept sticking myself to that. After episode 3, I started wavering and I thought I was wrong. But after all, I still don't know if that is the case here. Shu Yi's father is not a bad person and although he might have had difficulties to accept his son's choice, I guess he was willing to do so. The reason he came up with this 5 year plan to try to cut them off was more likely to be caused by both him and Shu Yi thinking Shi De betrayed his son. That conversation in the gallery happens after Shu Yi was heartbroken. He shows Shu Yi's previous phone to Shi De, which Shu Yi broke when he was weeping in the bar. The conversation between him and Shi De in the bar confirms that too. Shu Yi's father seems to be pissed at Shi De because he thinks he was just playing around with his son.

The Torfun's grave scene is a flashback. Tian even tells Torfun he is not gonna bring flowers for a while because he is now becoming a teacher.

Will that be the uncut version? And also will that be limited to Asia only?

I happen to come across your repeated and immature flouncing, usually at the start of something, so I do not wish to have a convo with you. Child is your grocery mate btw.

Sweeping generalizations are done by those flouncing out of shows in the second they stop giving one-dimensional, perfect cardboard creatures. Thanks for repeatedly proving my point.

2. Official trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVz-O6X0IXw