Outside of the female lead that was a very solid premiere.
She was a bit too cringe/over-the-top which translates into annoying. Hopefully she picks it up because the tone of the show will require her to pull off the dark humour scenes so much better than what we saw in the premiere which wasn't great. Not nuanced enough.
As much as I want to watch Jo Seung Woo I knew I'd struggle with taking Park Shin Hye seriously in this type of action role and that is definitely the case right now . Watching her versus Lee Da Hee in Luca right now is night and day on pulling off a strong female action role.
The only thing the drama is missing for me at the moment are those one or two OST's that I can have on repeat. I like the one by Lucy but other than that the others haven't massively grabbed me yet though they do their job/don't take away from the show.
I can see why it wouldn't resonate with some people as it's slowly placed and there's not much conflict but it's honestly the exact kind of thing I like. It's very much about relationships and broken characters essentially finding themselves through companionship. I dig it and the excitement for me comes from the character development you get as the episodes go on from multiple characters.
If anything it very much averts unnecessary conflict by being sensible/reasonable. As soon as the 2nd ML had given the ML that honey my first thought after watching kdramas for so many years was - the FL is going to for whatever reason be in the 2nd FL's office and see the honey there and then come to wild conclusions that he stayed over at hers. But it just gets resolved the next time the 3 meet at the cinema as there's no random withholding of information from characters to create drama.
Im Si-wan has always been a great actor so I'm really impressed with Shin Se-kyung here. I've struggled with her acting in some shows over the years but this is easily the best performance I've seen her put in. That hospital scene in episode 8 was really nicely done when the ML turns up
Damn Jo In-Sung is one of my favourite actors and Han Hyo-joo one of my favorite actresses.
Can't believe they're having their long anticipated return to dramas in the same one. Mad.
Also how great would it be if all three went on Running Man to promote. Han Hyo-joo's previous episodes on the show are classics and then you have Jo In-sung/Kwang-soo and Kim Jong-kook/Taehyun.
Netflix exclusive dramas (i.e. not ones in partnership and shown simultaneously on TV in SK) have had a great year. Kingdom 2, Extracurricular and now Sweet Home are some of my favourite shows of the year.
I love how these shows are just so different and take risks. I like my normal kdramas a lot which is why I've been watching them for years but having these different flavours is also a massive plus and very welcome.
Seoulhyun's acting is still pretty bad - quite a few idol actors/actresses are honestly not getting any better but keep getting roles. You wonder how many actual actor/actresses they're taking these roles away from
I watched Better Days only a few months back and had no idea the ML there is playing Li Bi here, and I'm half way through. Was just curious what else the actors had been in when I saw it.
some kdrama fans are worried that netflix dramas like 'extracurricular' are becoming too much like western shows,…
Yeah I'm honestly baffled by the comments that it's too westernised, because I really don't see how unless the only Korean content they watch are rom-com TV shows.
Because it's violent and dark? South Korean cinema has literally excelled at this for decades, with films such as Oldboy, The Man From Nowhere, The Chaser, I Saw The Devil, The Vengeance Trilogy, Burning etc. It's a staple of Korean content and as recent events have shown, very much relevant
I'm glad we got a show in the vein of their films, as it's what got me into Korean content in the first place. The rawness of it, holding nothing back
Really enjoyed the first episode - haven't massively got into a cdrama sine Nirvana in Fire but this has potential, and a nice number of episodes as well.
The truth is, you will never know if you will enjoy a drama before you watch it, just by its description, reviews,…
"Equality is something that must be striven toward, it's not something that naturally occurs through the passage of time. It happens through continuously raising awareness and making deliberate changes in the way we do things and the way we view things. That includes encouraging others to open their minds to perspectives that are different than our own."
I'm sorry but you're not really saying much here. My point was that pursuing more female POV's/representation in aspects of life leads to a more natural position of equality. If you had a survey asking if females preferred reading and watching female POV's do you think the answer would be yes? As that's the crux of what my point is coming down to.
"Well, you did decide to make a comment complaining that all the talk about BL pretty much ruined your desire to watch the show in the middle of a forum where people actively support the BL flavor of the drama. Maybe you're a newb to the whole "posting an opinion on the internet thing" but it's really the type of comment that begs for reply full of ire. Are you a bigot? That might be a bit harsh, I suppose. However, after a number of exchanges with you, I do feel you lack a certain awareness of the sort of inferences people will make about you based on the views you hold."
Yeah my comment was strong and you guys have absolutely blown up my inbox wrt it but it is true for my preferences. If i was going onto any show that I've seen recommended but and the crux of its fans just mainly talk and discuss one thing I'm not sure what people think potential viewers will infer. My initial comment was based on surprise as it wasn’t what I expected when I saw the recommendation
"As for The Untamed: since you didn't pick up on any BL moments between the main guys in Nirvana in Fire, it's possible you won't pick up on it in The Untamed either."
Reviews about how it's done as much as it can without exactly being bl, comments about how did it pass the censorship, even the discussion board for the drama - there's only so much I can say as I haven't see it but they really don't seem comparable based on opinions from people that have watched it (I'm not ignoring people that have responded to me, they just come across as very biased). Unless we're talking Oscar winning like Moonlight it's not a genre I'm actively going to watch, like a lot of other genres.
She was a bit too cringe/over-the-top which translates into annoying. Hopefully she picks it up because the tone of the show will require her to pull off the dark humour scenes so much better than what we saw in the premiere which wasn't great. Not nuanced enough.
It's not a needless comparison, taking the female heroine seriously is a major part of both shows and you can see where one lacks.
Edit: her brother and dad are also added to this list.
I legitimately hate half the family - why does the ML barely get any screen time. Can't deal with the families stupidity.
I can see why it wouldn't resonate with some people as it's slowly placed and there's not much conflict but it's honestly the exact kind of thing I like. It's very much about relationships and broken characters essentially finding themselves through companionship. I dig it and the excitement for me comes from the character development you get as the episodes go on from multiple characters.
If anything it very much averts unnecessary conflict by being sensible/reasonable. As soon as the 2nd ML had given the ML that honey my first thought after watching kdramas for so many years was - the FL is going to for whatever reason be in the 2nd FL's office and see the honey there and then come to wild conclusions that he stayed over at hers. But it just gets resolved the next time the 3 meet at the cinema as there's no random withholding of information from characters to create drama.
Im Si-wan has always been a great actor so I'm really impressed with Shin Se-kyung here. I've struggled with her acting in some shows over the years but this is easily the best performance I've seen her put in. That hospital scene in episode 8 was really nicely done when the ML turns up
Can't believe they're having their long anticipated return to dramas in the same one. Mad.
Also how great would it be if all three went on Running Man to promote. Han Hyo-joo's previous episodes on the show are classics and then you have Jo In-sung/Kwang-soo and Kim Jong-kook/Taehyun.
I love how these shows are just so different and take risks. I like my normal kdramas a lot which is why I've been watching them for years but having these different flavours is also a massive plus and very welcome.
Looking forward to season 2.
Will be fun to see her acting with Lee Kwang soo again.
Too many irredeemable characters, even the "nice" characters just aren't someone you want to root for.
I watched Better Days only a few months back and had no idea the ML there is playing Li Bi here, and I'm half way through. Was just curious what else the actors had been in when I saw it.
That's some good range
Hopefully the ML keeps a backbone and doesn't become a lackey for the wife/FL
Because it's violent and dark? South Korean cinema has literally excelled at this for decades, with films such as Oldboy, The Man From Nowhere, The Chaser, I Saw The Devil, The Vengeance Trilogy, Burning etc. It's a staple of Korean content and as recent events have shown, very much relevant
I'm glad we got a show in the vein of their films, as it's what got me into Korean content in the first place. The rawness of it, holding nothing back
And damn, the female lead is stunning
She cray, but I have to admit the actress that plays her is beautiful, reminds me of Suzy Bae
I'm sorry but you're not really saying much here. My point was that pursuing more female POV's/representation in aspects of life leads to a more natural position of equality. If you had a survey asking if females preferred reading and watching female POV's do you think the answer would be yes? As that's the crux of what my point is coming down to.
"Well, you did decide to make a comment complaining that all the talk about BL pretty much ruined your desire to watch the show in the middle of a forum where people actively support the BL flavor of the drama. Maybe you're a newb to the whole "posting an opinion on the internet thing" but it's really the type of comment that begs for reply full of ire. Are you a bigot? That might be a bit harsh, I suppose. However, after a number of exchanges with you, I do feel you lack a certain awareness of the sort of inferences people will make about you based on the views you hold."
Yeah my comment was strong and you guys have absolutely blown up my inbox wrt it but it is true for my preferences. If i was going onto any show that I've seen recommended but and the crux of its fans just mainly talk and discuss one thing I'm not sure what people think potential viewers will infer. My initial comment was based on surprise as it wasn’t what I expected when I saw the recommendation
"As for The Untamed: since you didn't pick up on any BL moments between the main guys in Nirvana in Fire, it's possible you won't pick up on it in The Untamed either."
Reviews about how it's done as much as it can without exactly being bl, comments about how did it pass the censorship, even the discussion board for the drama - there's only so much I can say as I haven't see it but they really don't seem comparable based on opinions from people that have watched it (I'm not ignoring people that have responded to me, they just come across as very biased). Unless we're talking Oscar winning like Moonlight it's not a genre I'm actively going to watch, like a lot of other genres.