Consistent with its entire season, Episode 12 was a mess, saved only by Aki and Miko's chemistry. Most plot/storyline…
True, I think the main leads gave it their all though and held the show together somehow, but sloppy acting from the side characters and questionable motivations and developments. The overall themes were nice though in execution with the talks between the sons and fathers. But indeed the finale was rushed. I see there is a part 2 in the making though. No Miss Becky in the finale apart from that silly scenes with the delivery guy? Pointless. Really rushed. I think we all knew what a hot mess this show was and love it for it. I am waiting for the Ace and Sky cuts.
This wasn't too bad once you realise what this is and what it isn't. It is different in that it has a different look and feel and the subject matter is quite "grown up" compared to other romance dramas. It still carries the same Kdrama tropes but in a slightly more mature way as they explore the different kinds of relationships and different kinds of love. As the story takes place around a restaurant I felt that each episode tried to savour each moment the main couple had and thus it slowed the pace down quite a bit.I spent a lot of time fast forwarding. Also somewhere around the middle they started adding momentary black and white scenes and I am not sure what meaning that leant to the scene if any. I think the director was trying to having some creating exploration as the story also revolved around writing and directing dramas. There were a couple shots where I couldn't help think "well that was an awkwardly filmed shot". It is a pretty safe story. You know that nothing really bad is going to happen after a while as it's not that kind of story. Just the everyday struggles of people in very challenging industries and the overall theme is about loving yourself first. I personally didn't feel much chemistry between any of the leads or side characters though it wasn't bad either. The bromance wasn't what I thought it would be because its not that kind of show. All in all it was easy to watch because they did evenly space out the characters being happy and having fun amongst all the melo stuff. This is a story for people who have lived a little already and understands a bit about life and not for someone looking for fluffy romance drama where everything is cookie cutter straight forward 1 dimensional characters. I like the fluffy stuff because life is a bit too real sometimes but at least this wasn't too heavy that I couldn't get through it. It was nice to see a drama try and be explorative of character relationships over the romantic side of things and be a bit serious about it. I'm not gonna say whether you should watch it or not because it definitely won't be everyone's cup of tea. Just do the research and manage expectations.
The curly red head that is the assistant writer and friend to the main female lead, what accent does she have? It's quite off putting because it sounds so strange and also sounds babyish on top so I thought it must be some dialect and perhaps means something to her character? I don't understand the cultural context for this character.
Could you pls spoil me on the bl plot line as much as you can pls
This is the explaination I have always wanted. Just starting it now but needed something so I could get a grasp of what is going on, motivations etc. and whether I will get annoyed or not. Seems okay to move forward with this series.
I ended up staying for the relationship development between the sister and the assistant. I ended up liking the 2FL in the end. She was the least annoying through this drama when all is said and done. All I could think through this whole drama is that the FL really likes to torture herself for no reason. Pretty weak story line. I don't think the ML deserves her. 2ML syndrome a plenty. Makes no sense.
One thing that tells me how far along LGBTQ and BL themed shows have come is the fact I don't have to worry anymore about whether there is a happy ending or not. Only when I watch much older shows.
It's a hot mess, soooo...yes. I think the actors are the only ones holding it together.
A hot mess in a good way! I am easily irritated by things but don't go in with high expectations and just enjoy the ride. Its good for rainy days and the actors do a good job even if everything else is burning around them.
Same. I prefer traditional yaoi where the guys are straight but fall in love with each other. It's more romantic…
Well thats what we are saying though. It is damaging to reality. This is the history of BL and how unrealistic it is but it is changing slowly at least on TV. Just need the production companies to come up with original stories though and not based off BL novels or adapt them to become more realistic which they are slowly doing. I still like the central idea of BL novels, love regardless of gender, but I think they should stay in novels unless they deal with the topic maturely because they are portraying an inaccurate view of homosexuality to people in very conservative societies who have no clue. But understanding what BL is, which is pure fantasy based off no facts at all, should not get you upset enough to start calling everyone homophobic who likes those ideas. BL is like its own alternate universe, like fantasy novels with dragons and mermaids, werewolves and stuff. Complete fabrication. I have read BL novels that completely makeup how the human body even works or how that lower part works. It's complete nonsense. Unfortunately, some people may believe this if they are not educated with these matters.
I think you need to see BL for what lovable bs it is and not allow it to hurt you because it is offering access to something you want to see more of, though less realistically. I also suspect that some gays love BL as much as females do because it's a complete riot. Complete escapism fantasy. As long as BL treats LGBTQ+ with respect and some realism where it matters, (because there are aspects such as the "angels" or "fairy" characters that are OTT trans/gay and made to look foolish, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth, as well as the casual treatment of rape, stalking and inappropriate behaviour) there will be a place for it in media for women and men alike, as long as everyone understands what it is and what it is not.
Theses days there are increasingly more LGBTQ+ offerings, perhaps not as mainstream like BL in Asia, and maybe not so much for younger viewers who want the high school/college drama, but GaGaOOlala has a nice growing catalogue of old and new and Strongberry covers LGBTQ+ stories pretty well for Korean offerings (as Korea are still pretty conservative) and are growing and improving slowly. Also I notice that Korea tends to do LGBTQ+ story telling rather than BL. Japan is also coming out with sweet realistic stories every now and then and even Viki is starting to list more titles recently so its easier to find and access these titles. The west tends to streamline gay stories in the main drama more and more too, with no one batting an eye, so everyone is catered for and they get their facts and realism right, otherwise western audiences would throw a riot. So there are increasingly more and more realistic options out there if one looks. Which is a good thing. BL tends to drown out all that is available because it shouts the loudest and spends more money on PR as they have found their niche. The studios really know how to sell it at the expense of more legitimate and less financed LGBTQ+ offerings.
No Miss Becky in the finale apart from that silly scenes with the delivery guy? Pointless. Really rushed.
I think we all knew what a hot mess this show was and love it for it.
I am waiting for the Ace and Sky cuts.
It is different in that it has a different look and feel and the subject matter is quite "grown up" compared to other romance dramas. It still carries the same Kdrama tropes but in a slightly more mature way as they explore the different kinds of relationships and different kinds of love. As the story takes place around a restaurant I felt that each episode tried to savour each moment the main couple had and thus it slowed the pace down quite a bit.I spent a lot of time fast forwarding. Also somewhere around the middle they started adding momentary black and white scenes and I am not sure what meaning that leant to the scene if any. I think the director was trying to having some creating exploration as the story also revolved around writing and directing dramas. There were a couple shots where I couldn't help think "well that was an awkwardly filmed shot".
It is a pretty safe story. You know that nothing really bad is going to happen after a while as it's not that kind of story. Just the everyday struggles of people in very challenging industries and the overall theme is about loving yourself first.
I personally didn't feel much chemistry between any of the leads or side characters though it wasn't bad either. The bromance wasn't what I thought it would be because its not that kind of show.
All in all it was easy to watch because they did evenly space out the characters being happy and having fun amongst all the melo stuff.
This is a story for people who have lived a little already and understands a bit about life and not for someone looking for fluffy romance drama where everything is cookie cutter straight forward 1 dimensional characters.
I like the fluffy stuff because life is a bit too real sometimes but at least this wasn't too heavy that I couldn't get through it. It was nice to see a drama try and be explorative of character relationships over the romantic side of things and be a bit serious about it.
I'm not gonna say whether you should watch it or not because it definitely won't be everyone's cup of tea. Just do the research and manage expectations.
But understanding what BL is, which is pure fantasy based off no facts at all, should not get you upset enough to start calling everyone homophobic who likes those ideas. BL is like its own alternate universe, like fantasy novels with dragons and mermaids, werewolves and stuff. Complete fabrication. I have read BL novels that completely makeup how the human body even works or how that lower part works. It's complete nonsense. Unfortunately, some people may believe this if they are not educated with these matters.
I think you need to see BL for what lovable bs it is and not allow it to hurt you because it is offering access to something you want to see more of, though less realistically. I also suspect that some gays love BL as much as females do because it's a complete riot. Complete escapism fantasy. As long as BL treats LGBTQ+ with respect and some realism where it matters, (because there are aspects such as the "angels" or "fairy" characters that are OTT trans/gay and made to look foolish, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth, as well as the casual treatment of rape, stalking and inappropriate behaviour) there will be a place for it in media for women and men alike, as long as everyone understands what it is and what it is not.
Theses days there are increasingly more LGBTQ+ offerings, perhaps not as mainstream like BL in Asia, and maybe not so much for younger viewers who want the high school/college drama, but GaGaOOlala has a nice growing catalogue of old and new and Strongberry covers LGBTQ+ stories pretty well for Korean offerings (as Korea are still pretty conservative) and are growing and improving slowly. Also I notice that Korea tends to do LGBTQ+ story telling rather than BL. Japan is also coming out with sweet realistic stories every now and then and even Viki is starting to list more titles recently so its easier to find and access these titles. The west tends to streamline gay stories in the main drama more and more too, with no one batting an eye, so everyone is catered for and they get their facts and realism right, otherwise western audiences would throw a riot.
So there are increasingly more and more realistic options out there if one looks. Which is a good thing. BL tends to drown out all that is available because it shouts the loudest and spends more money on PR as they have found their niche. The studios really know how to sell it at the expense of more legitimate and less financed LGBTQ+ offerings.