One of the girls was his FRIEND (nothing romantic) so he wasn't "hung up" on her. People do care for their friends,…
Yeah, well, people like him exist (he was freaking preparing to go to med school, there's a saviour complex right there, too). As for reckless/stupid - he was already alone against the world, what did he have to lose anymore? After getting out, he had to try anything to either learn what actually happened, or learn to deal with it.
Not like the whole town was against him or anything.
For real! I am actually currently watching it (it's my first rewatch) and this time I like to compare the subs…
The best subs were the fan-made subs (overimposed the Chinese hardsubbed eps). They knew to keep the little idioms in (things like WWX woe-is-me remarking he should've checked his horoscope before getting out the door when he runs into Jiang Cheng AND LWJ right after fleeing Mo Manor). In the NF and Viki subs, it's adapted into something like "this is so unlucky" or whatever.
Also the fansub TLed all the titles (no Chinese-sounding Hanguang-Jun that tells the int'l fans nothing, if they have no ear for Chinese and some previous knowledge - but Light Bearing Lord, which tells you WHO he is. Basically ALL their titles - Sandu Shengshou - Three-Bane Divine Hand, for Jiang Cheng, or the title of Sanren for the Wanderers, like WWX's mother, or Zewu-Jun, "Brilliance Overgrowth Lord" for LXC***, etc.) For someone who hadn't read the book before watching the drama, that added a whole layer of detail to the story.
When they tell you things are being lost in translation, they're not making a quip. This happens.
Which is why I LOVE the fan TLs of famous danmei, particularly those who take the time to explain the idioms, or suggest an adapted sense to the idiom, or include pictures to show you how things should look, and generally are enthusiastic about what they're doing. I already have quite a few of fan TLers that I appreciate a whole lot, they're making this a better world :)
ETA *** BTW, Brilliance Overgrowth doesn't imply light, but water and how it nourishes everything around it into abundant growth, LOL. For me it remained forever linked to the part of the story where they have to calm a Waterborne Abyss, and LXC just goes and plays his flute and starts on the (long) ride to contain and clean it up.
I’m sorry to all the fans, this is a genuine question: When does this really get good? I started watching this…
It gets extremely good by 14-15 (when the tragedy starts), but for me it got good in the opening scene, LOL. Maybe it's not your type of drama - but if you stick with it, you might be surprised.
I've watched most of the BL dramas in the list (except for Eien no Kinou because I don't want to cry), and Liar Game and Fuujinshi were on my radar... I just haven't picked them up yet, LOL.
For longer series (as in ep length - also, not BL), BORDER is really good and also the recently ended Umi no Hajimari!
The second female who went all psycho was crazy but she was right in the sense that both of these girls actually…
One of the girls was his FRIEND (nothing romantic) so he wasn't "hung up" on her. People do care for their friends, you know. The other one was his lover - and you're allowed passionate and illogical love at 18 (and at all ages actually).
Also, people are acting like true friends even toward persons who turn out not to be as honest in return, it happens all the time. Not to mention one-sided love happens, too.
This is based on a novel, and the adaptation is very good (I also read the novel). This is one of the pretty rare adaptations where the drama is better than the book.
Go Jeong deserved what happened to him. he didn't show any gratitude to his friend Choi Na Gyeom who supported…
NaGyeom... supported him?! He wouldn't have lost ten years of his life if it wasn't for her!
You aren't too advanced in watching the drama, maybe, or you wouldn't say that, LOL. Or do you mean he doesn't know what she did, so he HAS to fall for her because she was supportive?!
He doesn't OWE anyone anything, especially not "love". One feels what one feels, it's not forced through services rendered. That's the "gratitude" she expects from him, and he doesn't have in it him to give it to her.
It is much better than the ending in the novel though; it gives proper closure whilst in the novel we never got…
They meant the drama is on the whole better than the novel - and it is. The ending is pretty similar (considering all the little and big changes they did to the story). But the drama focuses a lot on the victim of the conspiracy (which the novel does not, being part of a series where the MCs are the two detectives investigating this case too), and it's way more emotional than the original story (which is written by a German author in a very German manner, LOL - pragmatical and to the point.)
And there's a much longer aftermath than in the novel, that is pretty satisfying.
Another thing that bothered me is that the male lead got his conviction overturned to ‘not guilty,’ but that’s…
It's a different system in SK. He wouldn't be able to sue the state, only (maybe) sue the wrongdoers. It usually goes by compensation (his own parents had to sell a lot of what they had to pay compensation to the victims' parents.) But who would compensate him anyway - the doctor is dead and HGT's money (if any) would probably go to SuOh, so he'd be asking for it from SuOh's estate.
And the killers, both of them, are actually dead - the doctor and Minsoo's dad. It would be tricky trying to sue the remaining family.
Need help with the ff:1. Why the hell didn't his mother believe him?2. How did Jeong woo's appa die? ...I know…
1. Because he himself didn't know if he had done it or not. And she's not stupid, or one of those tiger parents who will defend their children even if they do atrocious things. 2. IIRC he had a stroke or something. Probably caused by stress. 3. He didn't walk freely, he did some time (maybe not a lot, but I don't know how much they could charge him with - obstruction of justice, mishandling of evidence, whatever). His life in anything related to policing (including his promised security job) is now over.
I don't know, it looks like there are some ongoing efforts to make a second season. The bad news is that actors (including some in the main cast) are from the mainland, I wonder if they're going to be able to return for a second season, if it happens.
Meguro Ren is really fixing up to be a great actor, isn't he? This one, Silent, even Kieta Hatsukoi - he does…
What does Mizuki have going for her other than good men falling in love with her because of reasons? Little Umi getting so sad her dad wasn't in her life for the first 8 years because her MOM didn't choose to even inform him he has a daughter? Mizuki breaking up with him because she decided - all on her own - he wouldn't want to change his life to accomodate for a child? And he being the kid from a broken marriage who had to get used to a whole new family while his father went basically missing from his life - does she know so little about him that she can choose for him?!
And then she pretended she loved him?! That's not how love works. She's just finding excuses for why it wouldn't work, instead of even making the try to see if it will work or not.
Same with Yayoi. I kind of suspected that was where it would end - she only wanted to play mom with Umi, but then she let a stranger's words (coincidentally Mizuki's) inform her decision to abort, and in the end, it's still Mizuki's words that make her decide to break up with Natsu, because she wants to live for her own self? We all do, lady, but those who want relationships ALWAYS place some of themselves in the middle, and risk being hurt (but maybe not, too), because that's how relationships work!
Oh well. At least there's a whole network of friends and family around Natsu and Umi, so they won't have to go at it the hard way.
I am just so, SO glad they didn't put in a last-minute Tsuno/Yayoi relationship. First because he's too good for her, and second, because it would be way too soon. But we were spared that.
Meguro Ren is really fixing up to be a great actor, isn't he? This one, Silent, even Kieta Hatsukoi - he does have the acting chops. I hope to see him in many more dramas.
But the one who REALLY impressed me is Otake Shinobu (playing Nagumo Akane). She had the best chemistry with MR, and all their scenes together are shining. I loved her character and the way she played her, I really want to see someone with such a calming presence around me.
And then there's little Izutani Rana (playing Umi), she's only 7! She's so precocious. Child actors should get lots more recognition!
Such a good hurt/healing drama, despite the main love interests in Natsu-kun's life being such dumbasses.
Episode 14, it felt rushed abit after the fire in Gu Tak's house.
Because it's not about getting revenge, but about being cleared up of all the things he did NOT do, and then left to live his own life as he wants.
We've all been through the wringer with him LOL, so yeah, we're getting up in arms for him (just as NSC does), but he always said he wants to find the girls, find out if he really was the killer, and if not, be left alone.
And after finding out basically all his "friends" had betrayed him and his family, there is no revenge strong enough to change anything about those facts.
Physics will tell you there's always diffusion happening. It'll happen to the movie (or drama) industry. It already…
You really should look beyond SK, too :) There are so many good dramas (in Asia and elsewhere, but in Asia mostly, since we're on this topic :D), you will never run out of new stories to watch.
I went through my own anime and manga obsession period, LOL, but now I'm getting pretty fixed on cweb novels, so less time to spend on manga (or anime, TBH, they don't make my kind all that much - I am a mecha fan and there are few new Gundam anime hahaha~)
(Indian soap operas aren't all that good, BUT Bollywood did and still does some larger-than-life movies, so the movie-making industry over there has nothing to be ashamed of :D If wuxia and xianxia cdramas can have their physics-less fight choreography, why not the physics-less Bollywood blockbusters, too :D)
TBH, other than the Hong sisters, I usually don't know who the script writers are (and the Hong sisters get pretty hyped up whenever they write some dramas). So no idea how many of the dramas I enjoyed were written by women... I just take each one and appreciate it as it goes :D
Nice talking to you, too, I hope you find many gems in your drama watching journey!
TBH even if the costs weren't already way too high for anything in cinema, there is absolutely nothing (running…
I can only remember ATM one good remake of a Western show (that I didn't even watch as an original, sorry) - and that's Life on Mars. I think LoM the SK version is amazing. How did Woori the Virgin go though, for example? Or even the SK version of Criminal Minds (and I say this as a LJG fan). Most fail to translate.
When another Asian country remakes an Asian drama, it usually doesn't end up TOO twisted. There's nothing jarring for the main part (though honestly I am SO not into the PHI remake of Flower of Evil, LOL, I don't think I'd watch their remake of IONTBO). Maybe it's a regional zeitgeist they still keep faithful to, I don't know, but there is a difference. I can't even imagine how a SK drama would translate into a Western story (if that's what they're aiming for).
But uggggh, yeah, that mindset of "let's turn EVERY little thing into a franchise" is killing me. And it's killing off everything original - how many times can you save the world from destruction over and over and over again?! GAH! And that's why I don't watch any more superhero movies.
I wish all the best for Studio Dragon, they're one of my favourites and I know they make good things... but maybe not sell out completely will work out in the end. Who knows...
Not like the whole town was against him or anything.
Also the fansub TLed all the titles (no Chinese-sounding Hanguang-Jun that tells the int'l fans nothing, if they have no ear for Chinese and some previous knowledge - but Light Bearing Lord, which tells you WHO he is. Basically ALL their titles - Sandu Shengshou - Three-Bane Divine Hand, for Jiang Cheng, or the title of Sanren for the Wanderers, like WWX's mother, or Zewu-Jun, "Brilliance Overgrowth Lord" for LXC***, etc.) For someone who hadn't read the book before watching the drama, that added a whole layer of detail to the story.
When they tell you things are being lost in translation, they're not making a quip. This happens.
Which is why I LOVE the fan TLs of famous danmei, particularly those who take the time to explain the idioms, or suggest an adapted sense to the idiom, or include pictures to show you how things should look, and generally are enthusiastic about what they're doing. I already have quite a few of fan TLers that I appreciate a whole lot, they're making this a better world :)
ETA *** BTW, Brilliance Overgrowth doesn't imply light, but water and how it nourishes everything around it into abundant growth, LOL. For me it remained forever linked to the part of the story where they have to calm a Waterborne Abyss, and LXC just goes and plays his flute and starts on the (long) ride to contain and clean it up.
I've watched most of the BL dramas in the list (except for Eien no Kinou because I don't want to cry), and Liar Game and Fuujinshi were on my radar... I just haven't picked them up yet, LOL.
For longer series (as in ep length - also, not BL), BORDER is really good and also the recently ended Umi no Hajimari!
Also, people are acting like true friends even toward persons who turn out not to be as honest in return, it happens all the time. Not to mention one-sided love happens, too.
This is based on a novel, and the adaptation is very good (I also read the novel). This is one of the pretty rare adaptations where the drama is better than the book.
You aren't too advanced in watching the drama, maybe, or you wouldn't say that, LOL. Or do you mean he doesn't know what she did, so he HAS to fall for her because she was supportive?!
He doesn't OWE anyone anything, especially not "love". One feels what one feels, it's not forced through services rendered. That's the "gratitude" she expects from him, and he doesn't have in it him to give it to her.
And there's a much longer aftermath than in the novel, that is pretty satisfying.
And the killers, both of them, are actually dead - the doctor and Minsoo's dad. It would be tricky trying to sue the remaining family.
2. IIRC he had a stroke or something. Probably caused by stress.
3. He didn't walk freely, he did some time (maybe not a lot, but I don't know how much they could charge him with - obstruction of justice, mishandling of evidence, whatever). His life in anything related to policing (including his promised security job) is now over.
We'll see if / when we get there.
The novel is always available, anyway.
The way he looks so ready to flee if she says Again - again, hahaha~
And that small voice "I wanted to be the One and Only" OMG LOL
And Director OH!!!!!!!!! He was their biggest shipper, I wonder who he would be in the original world, maybe the most faithful reader of the novel :D
This was better than the parent story, LOL. And they had the courage to include (some of) the spicy scenes, hahaha~
I am very happy they made it, I just wish it was longer.
And then she pretended she loved him?! That's not how love works. She's just finding excuses for why it wouldn't work, instead of even making the try to see if it will work or not.
Same with Yayoi. I kind of suspected that was where it would end - she only wanted to play mom with Umi, but then she let a stranger's words (coincidentally Mizuki's) inform her decision to abort, and in the end, it's still Mizuki's words that make her decide to break up with Natsu, because she wants to live for her own self? We all do, lady, but those who want relationships ALWAYS place some of themselves in the middle, and risk being hurt (but maybe not, too), because that's how relationships work!
Oh well. At least there's a whole network of friends and family around Natsu and Umi, so they won't have to go at it the hard way.
I am just so, SO glad they didn't put in a last-minute Tsuno/Yayoi relationship. First because he's too good for her, and second, because it would be way too soon. But we were spared that.
But the one who REALLY impressed me is Otake Shinobu (playing Nagumo Akane). She had the best chemistry with MR, and all their scenes together are shining. I loved her character and the way she played her, I really want to see someone with such a calming presence around me.
And then there's little Izutani Rana (playing Umi), she's only 7! She's so precocious. Child actors should get lots more recognition!
Such a good hurt/healing drama, despite the main love interests in Natsu-kun's life being such dumbasses.
We've all been through the wringer with him LOL, so yeah, we're getting up in arms for him (just as NSC does), but he always said he wants to find the girls, find out if he really was the killer, and if not, be left alone.
And after finding out basically all his "friends" had betrayed him and his family, there is no revenge strong enough to change anything about those facts.
I went through my own anime and manga obsession period, LOL, but now I'm getting pretty fixed on cweb novels, so less time to spend on manga (or anime, TBH, they don't make my kind all that much - I am a mecha fan and there are few new Gundam anime hahaha~)
(Indian soap operas aren't all that good, BUT Bollywood did and still does some larger-than-life movies, so the movie-making industry over there has nothing to be ashamed of :D If wuxia and xianxia cdramas can have their physics-less fight choreography, why not the physics-less Bollywood blockbusters, too :D)
TBH, other than the Hong sisters, I usually don't know who the script writers are (and the Hong sisters get pretty hyped up whenever they write some dramas). So no idea how many of the dramas I enjoyed were written by women... I just take each one and appreciate it as it goes :D
Nice talking to you, too, I hope you find many gems in your drama watching journey!
When another Asian country remakes an Asian drama, it usually doesn't end up TOO twisted. There's nothing jarring for the main part (though honestly I am SO not into the PHI remake of Flower of Evil, LOL, I don't think I'd watch their remake of IONTBO). Maybe it's a regional zeitgeist they still keep faithful to, I don't know, but there is a difference. I can't even imagine how a SK drama would translate into a Western story (if that's what they're aiming for).
But uggggh, yeah, that mindset of "let's turn EVERY little thing into a franchise" is killing me. And it's killing off everything original - how many times can you save the world from destruction over and over and over again?! GAH! And that's why I don't watch any more superhero movies.
I wish all the best for Studio Dragon, they're one of my favourites and I know they make good things... but maybe not sell out completely will work out in the end. Who knows...