ShortCircuit

WTH was JHG doing, hosing off the heli?! I mean, it's not the pilots' fault that the villain is scum, but they're basically being taken down by a madman with a hose on a rooftop, amid high winds?!

The HECK!

I know military movies make it look like every heli is basically army-grade and nothing brings it down, but they're freaking delicate machines which go down all the time even when all conditions are right... And JHG is actively blinding the pilots, making the side of the heli heavier, pushing it at an angle around a high rise building (again, amid high winds, they said), in currents they couldn't even control, above a well-trafficked area...

Even with suspended disbelief, someone give him a freaking HUGE FINE at least, for endangering the aircraft and its crew!

PS And I do mean it with the time condensation technique. I actually appreciate how they're not wasting "days" or "weeks" dealing with burocratic procedures, but they actually do take all that time, and there are reasons as to why all of them came into existence. NOBODY actually can find a DNA profile basically instantly, (not even if they had all the equipment in the world ready and sitting around, it takes time for it to be collected, prepared, analysed, etc - there's is a procedure for fast DNA analysis, but seriously, does that institute sit around waiting for JHG to send them any whichever random DNA sample he feels like having tested?!), or sweep a freaking sodium metal bombing of a freaking national university under the carpet (no, not even the prospective future SK president, actually, his life would probably be under the microscope even worse than a normal drug trafficker's). And so on, and so forth.

So I'm enjoying the drama so far - mostly because I like Bulldozer, LOL - but they should tread carefully when taking it that bit way too far off the grid, IMHO.

Okay so FFD police time and stuff aside, what really really bugged me this (7th) episode...

Do you mean ratings for appreciation, or ratings of viewership? The later are given by factors like Nielsen for example, and they're definitely used to prove people are watching the drama so they like it. (TV viewership ratings doesn't include streaming, though, so it might be even higher than noted). If you want to check if a drama is watched in SK, there's the wiki of d-addicts, they usually publish it on the drama's page when it becomes available.

As for MDL, it's just appreciation ratings, which means that if not enough people are watching, or not all of them are rating it, then the ratings might be higher or lower than you'd expect. I would basically igonore MDL ratings when actually watching a drama, they tend to be kind of distorted by many things that aren't related to the drama itself.

It should've broken his neck, too. A full grown man hanging by a handcuff (a metal one too) would've probably sheared off a lot of the muscle and/or tendons on JHG's hand and slipped through - and at least would've completely destroyed his wrist, OR the tension should've dragged JHG's body towards the edge, while he got the cord wrapped around his neck... thus breaking it.

There is.

Neither of the two movies involve the main leads, so it doesn't really matter which order you watch them in. Fatal Journey is about the Nie brothers before WWX's resurrection, so more directly linked to the plot of TU, The Living Dead is a side-quest of the juniors and Wen Ning (after TU ends). So if you want to learn more on why Nie HuaiSang went to all that trouble, it's FJ first, but if you want to see some more cinnamon buns and ducklings, it'll be TLD, LOL.

The SE is the same as TU, only condensed more around the romance part and with the last scenes in their initial order (that didn't leave any doubts about how it actually ends up, LOL). There are just very few extra scenes, or rather, a few longer scenes, but it's good enough to feed the TU withdrawal symptoms.

But then there's a three-season donghua (animation) that's basically perfect, too, and the audio drama (with NSFW sound effects, LOL), and the chibi donghua MDZSQ for more cuteness, and obviously the novel, where all of the extras will give you what the censorship removed from the drama :D

If this comes up before Immortality airs... *sigh*, who am I kidding, I'm going to watch it as it airs, I mean - Luo Yun Xi and Bai Lu, that's a double trap for me LOL.

Err. TU is a bit (like, a whole lot) more than a bromance. IMHO, that is :D

But, good bromances: Be Reborn (father/son dynamics), The Devil Judge (flirty love-hate, veering reaaaaally close to actual shameless BL, LOL), I Don't Want to Be Brothers With You (friends pretending not to like each other), Beyond Evil (cops, no trust), At a Distance, Spring Is Green (teasing flirty, straight romance though), Someday Or One Day (BFFs, time-travel changing things), Under The Skin (love/hate to BFFs, also a bit too close for BL, LOL), Nobody Knows (different class kids becoming BFFs).

Actual BL pretending it's just bromance - Word of Honor, The Sleuth of Ming Dynasty, Guardian, Advance Bravely (all Chinese, all based on BL novels, all censored, LOL.)

Just a curiosity, if anyone's read the manhwa - is JinYoung's character acting for the future DoJoon? It totally looked like he was doing it for someone he cares a lot about, and he even says he's doing it because of someone's "greater need". For me it makes sense that someone is future JDJ... Is he the one?

I couldn't make it past the first episode (at least not yet), and I didn't even want to commit to it on MDL, LOL. It was just a look-see (and it looked a bit boring.) JinYoung (a cameo?) definitely was a surprise - but even more, Ateez's JongHo's "Gravity" kept me interested. I think this song is hypnotic.

If I get to watch this, it'll be because of this song. So glad they finally released it :D (And now because of the way YT is presenting it, I got to get addicted to EXO's Chen's "Heaven for You" and so maybe - just maybe - I'll take a look at The First Responders.)

Yup, kdrama OSTs are a gateway drug...

He also played the very shy and naive Mo Qing in The Legends (well, he was so until Zhao Yao was gone), but here there's an extra layer. He always takes that one more second to evaluate how to answer on any given situation, and there are some very small mannerisms and expressions that seem to imply there's something else going on.

I am beginning to like that way of characterisation very much. And now that I think about it, he's not exactly like that when he's around Cai Liang, his best friend, but he IS like that around his parents (mother at least).

There's definitely something about Hua's background, I thought he was being reserved because he doesn't really know Qin Shi at all, but he explained all philosophy of the life he wants to lead so seriously, and had basically the same attitude when remembering what his father said about falling for his mother - a bit restrained, not a lot of reaction (though he's still so expressive, I like that a lot), and so on - he acts like he's a bit on the spectrum and never ever becomes too emotional for any reason at all (or so far anyway). Only 6 friends / important contacts though - that's pretty sad, all things considered.

On the other end, the girls go to town on that beer or whatever it is, and yay, because of that, later we get skinship! LOL (I bet that was pretty awkward to film, props to them anyway!), and then have heartfelt drunken girls' talk...

Seriously, the lawyer part continues to give me Ally McBeal vibes, but the women are so well put-together they could be models, each and every one, so I guess I'll just enjoy the view and miss a second here and there when it's about office politics. The ex seems genuinely interested in FeiFei, I hope he doesn't turn out to be scum to her. If there's any feeling remaining between him and Qin Shi, I guess it's turned into resentment so far... with maybe a bit of competitiveness now that Yang Hua appeared.

If Hua's mom now knows it's an arrangement, wouldn't that void the whole living together before marriage thing? Weren't they supposed to pretend well enough to fool her? Now she knows, she might relent regarding Hua, and the whole deal is off. Right?...

It slowed down a bit these latest two eps, but I like the pace. It's not too fast, not too slow, just right. And there are a LOT of women who have control of their lives (and families) in this drama, LOL.

I'm not going to play semantics, but seriously, in the very first episode it's apparent that KTR is corrupt, his friend the first victim is also corrupt, their boss and friend is corrupt and that at least police officer Kwak (Chief Seo's right hand) is also corrupt. Add to that the whole development committee is also corrupt.

Having watched the drama, you can now see that basically there are no good cops or officials around in that city (or if there are some who might seem a bit cleaner, they tend to have grayer morals or ethics - like SungAh doing whatever KTR asks of her, because she trusts him, even if it might be possible he's actually guilty of quite a few criminal acts, or the newbie immediately spying on his direct team leader and even installing illegal surveillance cameras, for example). My comment doesn't "out" anyone for corruption, it's the usual wide-brush generalisation. To call it a spoiler might be a bit too much, IMHO.

But that's the beauty of the comment section for any drama, after all :)

I actually didn't say in the open that the focus changed mid-drama, just that I liked the initial setting better. How it changes is not mentioned (or not by me anyway) unless under the spoiler tag. I thought it was about the untied threads (that have time to be addressed in the second season, if they make it as a direct continuation of this story.)

I'll leave it as is for now. If you want to report it so that mods change it or delete it, that's fine by me, but (IMHO), it would really be unwarranted. Thank you for explaining it for me :)

PS. Just to explain myself better - I actually really liked the initial setting of police corruption and having a corrupt (for real, not the trope of corrupt-but-not-really as per usual) cop as a main character.

But then there's basically NO good cop? And we're supposed to emphatize with the whole bunch of corrupt a**holes, why? So yup, I did get a bit dissatisfied with how it ended.

I'm trying to improve myself, not being b*tchy, what's the spoilerish part?

Can someone please tell Win I got some dust in my eye, too? Like... err, I need a little help here? :D

I finished it. I'm not going to spoil it for you if you haven't watched it yet, I'm a bit mad, but not because of a major cliffhanger, so there's that. But IMHO the first half was better than the second half.

He's not the accomplice, but it gets worse. There is an accomplice, left for season 2. Watch it.

It's pretty similar in aftertaste to One Ordinary Day, IMHO. I guess this is SK noir now.

KJH being crooked because his son is sick, like seriously? Is his son still alive, BTW? Is he still married, or did he get divorced/separated from the wife?

And he starts the whole crusade on such a PERSONAL level (yes, digging up dirt on Chief Seo, but still, he and KTR really did go way back so at least in that sense, the personal revenge really did make sense) and THEN it's revealed it's actually something he's manipulated into because he sold his soul to some DEVELOPER? Like, REALLY?!

What I take from this for the next part/season is that his accomplice is the one who shot him on command from whomever, that the newbie is still not in the clear (neither is daughter's husband) and someone who's very into knowing how things happened wants to take over from manipulating KTR. To be continued.

What I HATE about this is that all the crooked cops are SO friendly. I mean, KTR suffers deeply for his crooked friend who died first, then for the crooked friend whom KJH killed, and is scared for crooked Chief Seo, too, because we don't need moral heroes any more in dramas. They all have to be dirty and do senseless acts because otherwise the depression afterwards wouldn't be as deep. Dammit. I want noir, and I know it's supposed to let you feel hopeless and less empowered, but I HATE it when while they're doing those acts I'm supposed to be empathetic to their plight because WHY? Why would I care about all these crooks who used to be good cops but strayed, and now they're all dead, imprisoned or blackmailed?

I could care less. And then they have KTR CRYING for KJH because why the eff?! Crying for his lost youth and innocence? Four hrs ago he was fabricating or neglecting evidence, so that people like KiTae got to spend 5 years in prison for something they're innocent of, or the poor girl's mom had to look for her for 10 years in despair just because KTR didn't feel like finding real evidence.

WTF?

So... yeah. I am that TINY bit annoyed with the message of this drama, and no, I don't think everybody is redeemed because they suffered and feel pain like everyone else, or even die. Eff corrupt cops, corrupt officials and brotherhood between corrupt people!

Okay, rant over. *sigh*