I'm rating this show 1 star tomorrow. The lowest rating I can give it. Anyone considering watching this show don't…
An actual list of specific examples would take ~ages to write out.. heck I'd love to do my own too, but I don't have the time to rewatch the entire series all over again (someday tho!), & I can't start smth without being able to be as thorough as possible.. besides, many have been stated in other places anyways (if I find a good recap that explains it, I will be sure to link it for you). Plus just writing these cmts via mobile (no desktop access, unfortunately) is very difficult.
I don't personally "hate" it either, I actually enjoyed it a lot! But what you say can be ~reversed too. "I'm just sad that lovers of this show must then come at those who dislike it just because they dislike it (as they are allowed to)." I mean what if someone reads ~your low ratings then starts harassing YOU for them? Are you seriously going to stop & take the time to calmly write them a thousand-word essay on ~why you disliked smth that they are insisting you shd be more appreciative of?? If they curse you out for rating smth a 4-5-6 that THEY are so stubbornly SURE deserves a 8-9-10? How would you feel?
No sensible person is going to respond ~positively to rude treatment, & casual cmters on a basic forum usually don't have time for to write entire theses (sp?), especially when they may be a bit traumatized (the epic trolling by the showrunners of this series cannot be denied, regardless of the "breadcrumbs of truth" sprinkled thru-out the series, lol), & they are ~allowed to feel hurt.
So you can cmt on ratings all you like, of course! Just don't expect college-level analyses in return, especially when starting off with bitterness.. ^-^
I'm rating this show 1 star tomorrow. The lowest rating I can give it. Anyone considering watching this show don't…
You keep claiming that this person never gave you their reasoning so you just want to assume they are doing it solely for the lack of their ship being canon, & repeatedly whine about them not justifying their rating, lol BUT THEY DID.. & they do not even have to, they don't "owe" you anything; sure, you have a "right" to be disappointed but NOT to ~demand proof from anyone whose ratings you may disagree with & put them on ~trial for such "unworthy" opinions. I don't get it, maybe you just missed what they said?
I'm posting for a variety of reasons: - time does not really exist on the internet (days to you can be ~minutes to me) - only just seeing this now - I feel it's important for others to read a ~logical counter-cmt to overreactions like the "butthurt" insults (again, being rude to hurt viewers is NOT the way to help them see your pov better).
What this person wrote: "poor story building, multiple plot holes, unanswered questions, main chars not shown in 2016, etc" & I do agree. I rated it more fairly, but that's MY choice.
Honestly, RATINGS ARE ~NOT IMPORTANT.. just like all the famous award shows, they are ~meaningless in the big picture of life & anyone who takes them THAT seriously needs to sort out their priorities. So ppl actually treat the Top Dramas lists like they are ~gospel? But it's all just a silly popularity contest! Laugh it off & don't put so much value in the opinions of others. There's more to life.. & dramas.. than numbers on a website. ♡
I'm rating this show 1 star tomorrow. The lowest rating I can give it. Anyone considering watching this show don't…
Wow, you consider that an "attack"? I merely pointed out the lack of logic in your being offended by other ppl's opinions. Crazy fans exist- I am not one of them, thanks- but every person still has a right to their feelings. Downrating is one way to ~reasonably & safely express negative feelings. Obviously being rude & psychotic (ie, those who use threats of assault or suicide) is NOT healthy.. but venting at them & being instigative only escalates their hurt, no matter how much YOU feel it's unjustified. See a dangerous cmt, REPORT it & move on. See a cmt you simply don't agree with? Just roll your eyes & move on, lol.
You are NOT "evil" / "bad" etc (apparently just a bit sensitive & just prone to exaggeration tho, please be careful of your blood pressure) for "sharing an opinion" - you attacked first by hurling insults towards another fan you happen to disagree with & began ~accusing them of destroying your precious fandom with various forms of excrement.. don't you see how that looks?? The #1 rule of ANY fandom is to actually just be respectful of all fellow fans, & everyone has the right to dislike the fandom itself (canon is not some sacred off-limits zone that shd never be criticized). Ignore / report the mentally unstable ones & don't take out your frustration on the others who are just feeling cheated. You don't have any right to make all downraters sound like horrible criminals "crapping all over the internet".
And I also sincerely hope your own life improves outside the online world too, I can totally empathize with hard times bringing a person down. Just hang in there.. ^-^
I'm rating this show 1 star tomorrow. The lowest rating I can give it. Anyone considering watching this show don't…
"..starting to hate a character just because of their fans.." - yankumicho
While I agree that it can be a shame when ppl may overlook certain aspects of smth due to their disappointment in other parts of it, you are not helping your case by showing that you too can be just as easily blinded by negative feelings.
In the end, ppl will just like what they like & will rate how they feel. I myself am extremely complicated with my ratings, there are a ~bunch of factors considered, lol but I also don't understand how anything less than a "10" is end-of-the-world level dramatic. The average score will still be 7-8-ish & that is amazing.. FAR from "ruined", pfftt seriously? Now if the average was below 5 ie more than 80% of the audience was downrating it super low ~then it would be a tragedy. In the meantime.. please have some perspective! ^-^
Gah, the most messiest, incomplete & rushed ending since Pasta! Which was really disappointing because I really…
Oh, definitely happy! There was supposed to be an event with the group, (the last one that decides whether they will officially replace the original group) but instead it just ends with the two leads talking about the future together, lol. So it's kind of an implied "hopeful" open ending too. May still leave you feeling shorted, especially cuz the series spent a lot of time on various threads, but ehh.. ^-^ #tehcuuteness
I don't "ship" anyone yet (I'm on episode 11) but I just want to say that I think Taek and Deok Sun…
LOL welcome! Both ~for the trippy exposition & ~to the world of #shippyfeels [lulzy emoticon here] I understand how shipping can seem overwhelming at first, especially when exposure has been mostly to the uber-passionate, haha, but overall most fans are just in it for the cuute, & adorkable, etc. Some may be militant (the ones who strictly stick to canon-only, & prefer to ignore any other potential pairings), others may be more open-minded (fanon/AU is where it's at.. rotfl), & then there's the fans who just don't care about or get concerned with any ships at all. But there's always fun to be had with any level!
Also, love your point "they make the perfect person" lol- that's often a reason why ~I like to ship in ~three's! (why have only one when two work so well together?) ♡♡♡
Everyone seems to be either/or with the shipping, lol meanwhile I'm just.. @__@ cuz they ~both seem cliche (purely in writing terms) & I thought the writers were going to do smth NEW &/or different this time around.. siighh. Instead we get "unrequited love x2" (lasting for ~years, lol) & endless meta teasing (regardless of whether one is "clever enough" not to fall for it, just the fact that the teases are included in the first place is frustrating). Whhyyy??
But I love them both, & therefore even tho I hope for smth truly ~unexpected (Taeki/JungHwan, DeokSun/DongRyong; or if DeokSun/JungHwan, then Taeki/JunHee, etc), I am fully prepared & braced for smth as typical & predictable as usual (ie, whoever is left out of the OTP: gets random last-minute girl, heh a la both Bingrae & Chilbongie in R94).
Overall, it's been a fun, squeeful ride, lol so I still consider it time well-spent. If only it had been a one-episode-a-week-for-six+-mths kind of series.. (because who really wants it to end??) ^-^ This family (all of them combined!) has become one of my favorite ensemble casts ever!
I don't "ship" anyone yet (I'm on episode 11) but I just want to say that I think Taek and Deok Sun…
The general definition of "shipping" is simply enjoying certain characters interacting together, tho usually with "romantic implications", but they're not a requirement. You can also be a "passive" shipper too, as well as a "friendshipper".
And then there's multi-shipping (either/or re: preferred couples).. plus trio-shipping (ie: appreciating OT3 potential in certain triangles) or sometimes more (OT4.. when choices are just not possible LOL).. ^-^
The ~verb definition (for "active" shippers) involves looking for / collecting / enjoying viewing fan-made media for preferred ships, hehe- ie fanart, fanvids, & fanfic, as well as actively debating / discussing all the details of their faves, on various forums.
Either way.. casual shipping is just as valid as serious shippage. xD
Gah, the most messiest, incomplete & rushed ending since Pasta! Which was really disappointing because I really…
Welcome! I wasn't sure if you wanted spoilers but just in case, that's pretty much it. Still a very enjoyable watch tho, if you don't mind the lack of canon closure, &/or are great at making up your own versions of drama endings- which I usually do anyways, lol!
Gah, the most messiest, incomplete & rushed ending since Pasta! Which was really disappointing because I really…
Supposedly it got ~cancelled? Thus, nothing actually happened, lol it just ends with some randomness & that's it. Which I wasn't expecting, cuz I hadn't really read anything before watching, just vaguely noticed the ep count was shorter than usual but didn't consider it a bad sign.. first time I came across an actually cancelled one too, I think. Eh well, it was fun while it lasted! And their theme song is still kinda stuck in my head lol.. ^-^
I say this having watched both 94 and 97, and being soo mad at hoyas and baros -plot twists- (not giving any spoilers…
Haha, I like having an outlet for my theories too xD
A97 - JunHee was YoonJae's puppy
R94 - Bingrae was Sureki's puppy
E88 - Taekie is DeokSun's puppy
At first it's like.. the writers of E88 decided we needed even MORE heartbreak so they doubled up & that's why they basically combined both Chilbongie & Bingrae into one character this time, pfftt. BUT I kinda like to imagine that they are "smarter" than that (lol) & may have a much better twist planned. I see two potential outcomes..
A97 - JunHee ends up with "mystery" / unknown partner
R94 - Bingrae meets random girl whom he later marries
E88 - Taekie ends up with JungHwan?? or JunHee, hmm..
LOL hey a fan can dream, right?? They wouldn't possibly repeat the annoying endings of both Chilbongie & Bingrae, would they? (random last-minute girl) Oyy, this series is stressing me out & I said I wouldn't even get that invested, tsk. But I love them! ^-^
They do eventually tone it down, sometimes it isn't used at all. I first watched R94 & found it hilarious / strange / awkward, but in A97 & the beginning of E88, it just felt out-of-place more than anything. I think they usually go overboard when the series are just starting tho, so if you can get thru those initial eps, it does get better! ^-^
I say this having watched both 94 and 97, and being soo mad at hoyas and baros -plot twists- (not giving any spoilers…
By "implied crushes", I was just referring to JunHee's best-friend love for YoonJae & Bingrae's "puppy love" for Sureki. Both were implied as "temporary" crushes, smth that they got over rather ~easily, eventually (siighh).
In this one, (& it's an obvious spoiler since it's a main ship) Taekie is revealed to have a crush on the girl, DeokSun, & is seemingly completely smitten.
Which is why I said he is like the ~opposite of Bingrae.. & even JunHee, who was just bffs with the girl (tho YoonJae suspected ~otherwise at first, lol) & I'm imagining an epic twist at the end.. which may also mirror R94: Bingrae actually kissed his crush but still did not end up with him; Taekie may kiss DeokSun, but not end up with her.
Taekie will win your heart over regardless of his canon story tho.. & there's always our own fanon versions, so I would recommend watching anyways! I personally can't get enough, lol.. been keeping up with every episode each week!
And did you check out that vid link? Dang editors DO enjoy teasing / trolling us! >.>
I say this having watched both 94 and 97, and being soo mad at hoyas and baros -plot twists- (not giving any spoilers…
Depends- what exactly did you want? ie for them to be the lead who gets the girl? Or for them to eventually be with their implied crushes? I was disappointed too that it seems to have gone backwards in terms of same-gender love. A97 has JunHee end up with a "mystery" / unknown partner, R94 has Bingrae end up straight & married to a random girl, & in E88 there is no actual similar roles at all. But it would be reeally interesting if the twist this time was that our seeming "straight" second lead Taekie turns out to fall for a boy in the end, ie being the total opposite of Bingrae! Hmm.. ^-^
Imagining our Taekie assuring JungHwanie that he is loved too, & them taking care of each other complete with much-needed cuddles while they patiently wait for their Deokie to catch up & then the precious awkward BFFs can live happily ever after ~together.. #OT3
That would be the best twist- an adorkable trio-shippy ending.. #ifonly
~edit: OMG, apparently tvN ~enjoys trolling poor fans, as they recently posted this "trailer" on their official FB pg*: https://youtu.be/MW3T0Dgee6o WHHYY..
The episodes are too long for me to be able to sit and pay attention. I'm sadly going to be dropping this drama…
It's a shame some ppl have attention issues (binge-watching anything must be super difficult lol nevermind any marathons) but no one is being forced to watch the full length of a movie-sized ep in one sitting. You can always just split them up, like 1a being 40-45mins in & 1b being the rest, etc. Good things are meant to be savored, not rushed thru. Watch at your own pace, it's not a competition or school assignment, lol ("read 815pgs by Monday!" @_@) so just try & ~relax with it. ^-^ xoxo
honestly im soo torn ...like Taek is so precious and whenever he smiles i literally need to pause the drama so…
They really should have given Taek someone to crush on ~him lol so we can root for his happiness at the same time, drives me crazy when the writers just drop someone in last-minute like um let us get to kno them first & see how good they are for our precious lonesome second lead.. *sobbytears*
I don't personally "hate" it either, I actually enjoyed it a lot! But what you say can be ~reversed too. "I'm just sad that lovers of this show must then come at those who dislike it just because they dislike it (as they are allowed to)." I mean what if someone reads ~your low ratings then starts harassing YOU for them? Are you seriously going to stop & take the time to calmly write them a thousand-word essay on ~why you disliked smth that they are insisting you shd be more appreciative of?? If they curse you out for rating smth a 4-5-6 that THEY are so stubbornly SURE deserves a 8-9-10? How would you feel?
No sensible person is going to respond ~positively to rude treatment, & casual cmters on a basic forum usually don't have time for to write entire theses (sp?), especially when they may be a bit traumatized (the epic trolling by the showrunners of this series cannot be denied, regardless of the "breadcrumbs of truth" sprinkled thru-out the series, lol), & they are ~allowed to feel hurt.
So you can cmt on ratings all you like, of course! Just don't expect college-level analyses in return, especially when starting off with bitterness.. ^-^
I'm posting for a variety of reasons: - time does not really exist on the internet (days to you can be ~minutes to me) - only just seeing this now - I feel it's important for others to read a ~logical counter-cmt to overreactions like the "butthurt" insults (again, being rude to hurt viewers is NOT the way to help them see your pov better).
What this person wrote: "poor story building, multiple plot holes, unanswered questions, main chars not shown in 2016, etc" & I do agree. I rated it more fairly, but that's MY choice.
Honestly, RATINGS ARE ~NOT IMPORTANT.. just like all the famous award shows, they are ~meaningless in the big picture of life & anyone who takes them THAT seriously needs to sort out their priorities. So ppl actually treat the Top Dramas lists like they are ~gospel? But it's all just a silly popularity contest! Laugh it off & don't put so much value in the opinions of others. There's more to life.. & dramas.. than numbers on a website. ♡
You are NOT "evil" / "bad" etc (apparently just a bit sensitive & just prone to exaggeration tho, please be careful of your blood pressure) for "sharing an opinion" - you attacked first by hurling insults towards another fan you happen to disagree with & began ~accusing them of destroying your precious fandom with various forms of excrement.. don't you see how that looks?? The #1 rule of ANY fandom is to actually just be respectful of all fellow fans, & everyone has the right to dislike the fandom itself (canon is not some sacred off-limits zone that shd never be criticized). Ignore / report the mentally unstable ones & don't take out your frustration on the others who are just feeling cheated. You don't have any right to make all downraters sound like horrible criminals "crapping all over the internet".
And I also sincerely hope your own life improves outside the online world too, I can totally empathize with hard times bringing a person down. Just hang in there.. ^-^
While I agree that it can be a shame when ppl may overlook certain aspects of smth due to their disappointment in other parts of it, you are not helping your case by showing that you too can be just as easily blinded by negative feelings.
In the end, ppl will just like what they like & will rate how they feel. I myself am extremely complicated with my ratings, there are a ~bunch of factors considered, lol but I also don't understand how anything less than a "10" is end-of-the-world level dramatic. The average score will still be 7-8-ish & that is amazing.. FAR from "ruined", pfftt seriously? Now if the average was below 5 ie more than 80% of the audience was downrating it super low ~then it would be a tragedy. In the meantime.. please have some perspective! ^-^
Also, love your point "they make the perfect person" lol- that's often a reason why ~I like to ship in ~three's! (why have only one when two work so well together?) ♡♡♡
But I love them both, & therefore even tho I hope for smth truly ~unexpected (Taeki/JungHwan, DeokSun/DongRyong; or if DeokSun/JungHwan, then Taeki/JunHee, etc), I am fully prepared & braced for smth as typical & predictable as usual (ie, whoever is left out of the OTP: gets random last-minute girl, heh a la both Bingrae & Chilbongie in R94).
Overall, it's been a fun, squeeful ride, lol so I still consider it time well-spent. If only it had been a one-episode-a-week-for-six+-mths kind of series.. (because who really wants it to end??) ^-^ This family (all of them combined!) has become one of my favorite ensemble casts ever!
~♡~ even umma "MiRan" ships #TaekHwan xDD https://youtu.be/gfyko1uDauA ~♡~
And then there's multi-shipping (either/or re: preferred couples).. plus trio-shipping (ie: appreciating OT3 potential in certain triangles) or sometimes more (OT4.. when choices are just not possible LOL).. ^-^
The ~verb definition (for "active" shippers) involves looking for / collecting / enjoying viewing fan-made media for preferred ships, hehe- ie fanart, fanvids, & fanfic, as well as actively debating / discussing all the details of their faves, on various forums.
Either way.. casual shipping is just as valid as serious shippage. xD
A97 - JunHee was YoonJae's puppy
R94 - Bingrae was Sureki's puppy
E88 - Taekie is DeokSun's puppy
At first it's like.. the writers of E88 decided we needed even MORE heartbreak so they doubled up & that's why they basically combined both Chilbongie & Bingrae into one character this time, pfftt. BUT I kinda like to imagine that they are "smarter" than that (lol) & may have a much better twist planned. I see two potential outcomes..
A97 - JunHee ends up with "mystery" / unknown partner
R94 - Bingrae meets random girl whom he later marries
E88 - Taekie ends up with JungHwan?? or JunHee, hmm..
LOL hey a fan can dream, right?? They wouldn't possibly repeat the annoying endings of both Chilbongie & Bingrae, would they? (random last-minute girl) Oyy, this series is stressing me out & I said I wouldn't even get that invested, tsk. But I love them! ^-^
In this one, (& it's an obvious spoiler since it's a main ship) Taekie is revealed to have a crush on the girl, DeokSun, & is seemingly completely smitten.
Which is why I said he is like the ~opposite of Bingrae.. & even JunHee, who was just bffs with the girl (tho YoonJae suspected ~otherwise at first, lol) & I'm imagining an epic twist at the end.. which may also mirror R94: Bingrae actually kissed his crush but still did not end up with him; Taekie may kiss DeokSun, but not end up with her.
Taekie will win your heart over regardless of his canon story tho.. & there's always our own fanon versions, so I would recommend watching anyways! I personally can't get enough, lol.. been keeping up with every episode each week!
And did you check out that vid link? Dang editors DO enjoy teasing / trolling us! >.>
Also: this was posted on the official network FB pg: https://youtu.be/MW3T0Dgee6o
Imagining our Taekie assuring JungHwanie that he is loved too, & them taking care of each other complete with much-needed cuddles while they patiently wait for their Deokie to catch up & then the precious awkward BFFs can live happily ever after ~together.. #OT3
That would be the best twist- an adorkable trio-shippy ending.. #ifonly
~edit: OMG, apparently tvN ~enjoys trolling poor fans, as they recently posted this "trailer" on their official FB pg*: https://youtu.be/MW3T0Dgee6o WHHYY..
#nowords #worstTEASEever #sodone
*FB link: https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=452863884916031&id=378280515707702
I don't get how that was so hard haha it was basically 스택 "seu-taek" #rotfl