You watch the First Frost and suddenly the same genre as this is not? It's melodrama what you expect?
I think First Frost is a better vibe drama than this one, yes they are the same genre, but it seems to have more soul I don't know. Though I'm not saying this is a bad one, I'm only 5 eps in..
maybe u should be the producer, and extend the drama episodes
This is rarely a valid argument, the writers knew the episode count, but the sad reality of Korean TV is that the last episode's quality is always an afterthought on the writing side. Pump the cliffhangers, keep the mystery going as long as possible & then just do whatever random things in the last 40-60 minutes to somehow reach the ending credits. I'm surprised people are still putting up with this & that writers that ALWAYS do this don't get cancelled / unpopular. (ironically the main writer here has not really done this in her previous two -known- dramas, Still 17 is one of the better kdramas I can remember.)
not dubbing; Thai actors were involved (Mike , Patrick....) and the drama was filmed in Thailand for more than…
Let me reiterate, in both dramas everything was dubbed. The only question is how many of the original actors dubbed over themselves vs. professional voice actors.
not dubbing; Thai actors were involved (Mike , Patrick....) and the drama was filmed in Thailand for more than…
In Chinese dramas everything is dubbed. Often by the same actors doing the acting. Esther Yu is certainly dubbing herself.. So the Thai is certainly dubbed as well, the only question is whether they used native Thai voice actors, or just just random people from China. Since I don't speak Thai, I have no idea.
It's 50/50 yes, but the business part is somewhat palatable, certainly above the cdrama average. It's more of…
>What you call propaganda is actually a reflection of reality. Why shouldn't their entertainment use this type of success as a background to the story?"
I'm not sure if you even understand what I'm talking about here. You are right China's PV industry is a huge success, I'm not contesting that, but there are so many small embedded propaganda talking points in the show, many times not related to PV at all.
I'm thinking I might start this drama, but wondering if the focus is on education/business stuff or the relationship/romance?…
It's 50/50 yes, but the business part is somewhat palatable, certainly above the cdrama average. It's more of a problem that there is a bit too much communist propaganda in there, about the photovoltaic industry, about China being suppressed and some other agendas..
I still have a couple episodes left, but I think this is quite good in the chill cdrama romance genre. The FL has many very satisfying aura farming moments etc..
why do i feel like i will be disappointed after watching this, or when i start it? is not worth time? i am not…
I'm only up to e15-ish, but if you want strong jealousy this is really not it so far. Don't expect 3 way handgrabs, only face slaps. FL is basically recovering from her past love & ML is taking very calculated slow advantage.
Cdramas can not really be emotional roller coasters anymore due to censorship, that applies to this one too. However…
Here is another: If a kdrama character drives without a driver's license, they'll either crash the car or be caught by the police.
As for why I think kdrama self censorship is often worse is because cdramas are always preproduced & the writers often try to work within the limitations of the system, the idea space may be more limited but they at least try. (well ok, they do the school chase in every second drama, but other than that) Kdramas with live filming seemingly walk into these problematic topics way more often & then the predictable & forced outcomes pile up in the final episodes ruining the entire show.
For example I really like the cdrama First Frost. If that were a kdrama, the writers would have certainly spent a few flashbacks highlighting the mom's struggles & then somehow force a mini reconciliation & I cannot put it into words how much I would've hated that.
Thank you! You saved me from even trying watching this one!
1. Yes. (the final episode is great fluff) 2. Surprisingly it's above average. 3. Not sure it's been a long time probably not great & ML's acting is really bad. 4. Don't remember.
Cdramas can not really be emotional roller coasters anymore due to censorship, that applies to this one too. However…
>Ofc I don't know what Koreans censor, but I would be surprised if it were even worse.
For example in Korean dramas toxic parent characters are almost never completely abandoned. While there a few rare exceptions, whenever a drama has a toxic parent character you are expected to see some form of a redemption ark for them in the final episodes, or at the least the children making an effort to resolve past conflicts up to the ending credits. There are many similar examples of self censorship, like if you saw Genie Make a Wish you'll notice that easily gotten money is abandoned freely 3 times in the show. Or we could talk about how if a drama is about heists, the cool thieves will never get away with it & there is also this related trend where people that have done something criminal in their past will certainly atone for their sins in prison. Like even if they've only harmed their husband who forgave them, still go to prison willingly & I'll wait for you with our kid when you are out. One last example, if someone without a college / university degree becomes successful, the drama writer is almost guaranteed to send them back to college in the final episodes, even if it doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever.
Cdramas can not really be emotional roller coasters anymore due to censorship, that applies to this one too. However…
It's bad, but it's not like Hollywood is so hot these days & if we look at Korean dramas they have their own issues. There is no direct censorship in Korea, but their unique society puts very strong constraints on what can be shown as well & in my mind that is often worse, especially considering that most of their dramas are filmed live, so high quality writing is incredibly rare to begin with.
So what are we suppose to watch, French television? :D
Cdramas can not really be emotional roller coasters anymore due to censorship, that applies to this one too. However…
Censorship is complicated, not well defined & often takes a long time, we are talking about years. LGBTQ is a negligible part of all that. There is lots of things, this is why Chinese dramas & actors during most of their scenes are almost always super chill. This is why if a drama character goes to a foreign country they won't be allowed to like the local food. This is why if the drama characters sneak into their former high school at night, then the guard(s) will chase them at the end of their escapade, even small law breaking must have at least minor consequences. This is also why many Chinese dramas have strange dialog inserts here and there, meaning that after the drama's finished filming the censoring body adds a few new sentences here & there and then they dub it over something else, so the lip movement doesn't line up at all.
For a 36 ep long CDrama and a synopsis of a romance only plot, I am not sure I can start this? slow burn means…
Cdramas can not really be emotional roller coasters anymore due to censorship, that applies to this one too. However the workspace slice of life & the workspace dynamic between FL & her boss is not bad in this one. I watched it up to E8 & I can assure you that a lot more things happen here than in Snowstorm of Love in that time frame, this is not just a vibe drama, well as of e8 anyway.
Esther Yu is certainly dubbing herself..
So the Thai is certainly dubbed as well, the only question is whether they used native Thai voice actors, or just just random people from China. Since I don't speak Thai, I have no idea.
I'm not sure if you even understand what I'm talking about here. You are right China's PV industry is a huge success, I'm not contesting that, but there are so many small embedded propaganda talking points in the show, many times not related to PV at all.
I still have a couple episodes left, but I think this is quite good in the chill cdrama romance genre. The FL has many very satisfying aura farming moments etc..
Though I think there are a couple more where a well off celebrity gets together with a businessman or executive.
As for why I think kdrama self censorship is often worse is because cdramas are always preproduced & the writers often try to work within the limitations of the system, the idea space may be more limited but they at least try. (well ok, they do the school chase in every second drama, but other than that)
Kdramas with live filming seemingly walk into these problematic topics way more often & then the predictable & forced outcomes pile up in the final episodes ruining the entire show.
For example I really like the cdrama First Frost. If that were a kdrama, the writers would have certainly spent a few flashbacks highlighting the mom's struggles & then somehow force a mini reconciliation & I cannot put it into words how much I would've hated that.
2. Surprisingly it's above average.
3. Not sure it's been a long time probably not great & ML's acting is really bad.
4. Don't remember.
For example in Korean dramas toxic parent characters are almost never completely abandoned. While there a few rare exceptions, whenever a drama has a toxic parent character you are expected to see some form of a redemption ark for them in the final episodes, or at the least the children making an effort to resolve past conflicts up to the ending credits. There are many similar examples of self censorship, like if you saw Genie Make a Wish you'll notice that easily gotten money is abandoned freely 3 times in the show.
Or we could talk about how if a drama is about heists, the cool thieves will never get away with it & there is also this related trend where people that have done something criminal in their past will certainly atone for their sins in prison. Like even if they've only harmed their husband who forgave them, still go to prison willingly & I'll wait for you with our kid when you are out.
One last example, if someone without a college / university degree becomes successful, the drama writer is almost guaranteed to send them back to college in the final episodes, even if it doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever.
So what are we suppose to watch, French television? :D