Comment section is very lively today! Haha. Here's my 2cent regarding the dream arc. This arc is my favorite out of the entire novel. The production team did an amazing job with the colors, costumes, world building, graphics, etc in the drama.
So I hated MY in the novel till the very end. I had no sympathy for him even at the end. SJ, I cried hard tears for her the entire time. She deserved so much better and someone who was willing to be her sword and shield. Not someone to tell her she should be benevolent and move forward. Nah, eff that. In the drama, MY was tolerable. At least he showed affection and emotions in the beginning of their marriage.
I know there are a lot of discussions and talks about how ppl dont like how TTJ handles his outbursts and vengeances. To me, that's more realistic than being a benevolent, peacemaking person. MY here, thinks he can find justice and forgive people on behalf of SJ. Who is he to forgive them when the person who has been hurt hasnt forgiven or forgotten? These kind of people are optimistic but they live in an unrealistic bubble. What SJ want is an eye for eye, blood for blood and in this case, a tribe for a tribe. MY doesnt believe in that theory. He believes in upright, judicial punishment.
Sorry but i gotta side with TTJ and SJ in this story on how they handle grievances. I think we are in no postion to tell someone to "get over it, they got punished" when in fact, we don't know how deeply actions of the offenders affected them. People's pain level are different and giving them grace and room for redemption is the best outcome.
Currently at ep.7I do have a problem with the main lead...I mean, Leo's acting is absolutely fine, this role suits…
While I don't condone violence, I think that's the beauty and tragedy behind the character. all he knew since birth was violence, hate, betrayal, and that everyone wanted him dead for whatever reason. He isn't even sure why he's so hated. He resorts to the first thing he knows, which is violence and anger. It also explains his extreme insecurities and trust issues he has with people.
It wasn't until he met LSS that she taught him other emotions, such as love, happiness, and even hope for a chance at a normal life of growing old with your loved one. That's why later on when she betrays him, it hurts him so much more. He's reminded him of how undeserving of love he is and how he's truly destined to be alone/hated.
I like to think of these characters as a box of crayon that only contains the colors white and black. They haven't yet been introduced to other colors like orange, purple, red, gray, etc... and so these colors don't exist in their box. Through their existence they may be able to be able to fill their box with all the colors... or they may never. In this case, TTJ will be able to fill his box with colors and we get to witness him do that through LSS.
Episode 23 was heavy. Lots of emotional damage and growth.
Mr. Lin's words to LX during their meal was really short but impactful. It made me realized that though LX has a lot of self confidence in his abilities, he doesnt really have much self-love. He doesnt treasure himself that's why he's willing to ruin himself in such ways. He doesnt care about what others think about him but his own opinion of himself matters the most which isnt a good one.
ZY in this episode hits hard. Depression is hard to get out of. When you're stuck in an depressive state, it will drag you down. Most people dont understand that all it takes is something small to trigger you to fall into that state.
LX in this episode was as everyone had mentioned, just an asshole but so relatable. He's compose and nonchalant almost all the time except when it comes to things that he truly loves, like programming and loved ones then he loses it. His actions are speaking louder than his words but he isnt noticing it ( everyone else did).
The ending though was super nice. They sort of finally was able to talk like adults without gripping their weapon and shield. It's a small but good direction where they are heading. Being friends again before they can become lovers once more; afterall they lost a few years in between. They need time to catch up and readjust to each other's lives.
I can concurred. After reading many, many vampire books, the sexual tension is there. It's very imitate and in a way, like someone is looking into your soul while you're vulnerability is on display for them to see.
Of course, I've also read "interview with the vampire" where the male character didnt differentiate between female or male and would just suck their blood for fuel.
But who even knows. LOL it's up to the blood sucker to know that.
The fl agrees to marry the fourth ml for the first ml, and the second ml asked the third ml to stop the marriage,…
The most complicated harem ever. I've read through other interpretations that it was actually 3rd ML who "accidentally " showed up in front of 2nd ML just in time for 2nd ML to "persuade " him to stop the wedding.
As someone who has watched both more than three times and binged through them in the span of two years, they are both great and equally on par with each other. This article is a bit biased but it's okay. It's OP's honest opinion.
Here's my opinion.
Female leads: I honestly preferred JM over XJ. Maybe it was the actress but JM was more likeable. Her innocence and childlike traits were fun to watch as well as her character growth. It's not just the lighthearted scenes that made JM better but her emotional scenes were better portrayed and delivered. Again, probably due to the actress. I can't relate to a FL that unintentionally and intentionally causes harm to their loved ones like XJ. Of course, in the beginning, it was completely no fault of her own but even when she found out she's been the one causing harm, the actress playing her couldn't emote it as well. However, the writing and depth for XJ as a character was better. Her past was tragic and her character growth was amazing to watch. YBY did great playing a navie and clueless XJ but her emotional scenes felt short for me. Maybe if it was a different actress, XJ would had won in the FL category.
Male Leads: Both were great and these roles sky rocketed them to stardom. XF was the perfect male lead; great at everything, loved by everybody, powerful, handsome, smart, and obviously next in line for the throne. He's egotistic, entitled, cocky, and devoted. My biggest complaint about XF was his lack of empathy and ability to sympathize with the people who suffered under the ruling of his parents. He was told by many that his parents are evil and were hated by many. However he never questioned his parents or their actions. He just continued to view them as the world's greatest rulers and parents. He was possessive over JM and couldn't take no for an answer which honestly was what lead to his own downfall. I do love his devotion and pure love towards JM but my dude gotta take a hint and back off.
Now, Si Feng... ah Si Feng, if XF was the perfect male lead, SF takes the title as the perfect male lead in the male lead world. Everything he does is just so full of love, loyalty, and sweetness. Maybe I'm Cheng Yi biased but his micro expressions are to die for. SF is shy, arrogant, super smart, handsome, but aloof and a bit insecure due to the lovers curse. But at the end of the day, he's just so human and so kind. Here's the complaint, his lack of communication is what drove him to his own grave. Though he respected XJ as a person, he didn't respect her enough as a significant other or as an equal. He made all the decisions for her without thinking about how she would feel if she found out. He assumed she wasn't going to be able to emotionally handle it and purposely hid things to "protect" her. I don't really like it when ML makes big decisions for FL or when they can't communicate properly. In real life, this kind of relationship isn't going to last long.
Story telling/Cinematography/OST: AoL - so poetic, so beautiful, and amazing graphics/colors. Heart wrenching soundtrack and bgms. The flow of the story was great. We get to see how each character is introduced and a bit of their personalities. First time around, I didn't like the mortal realm arc as I felt it dragged but second time around, it's probably my favorite arc out of the entire series. My favorite thing about AoL was Run Yu. OMG this actor and his character WOW. I love watching him transitioned from a lonely and chill God to a downright villian. Around ep 45 (maybe), the setup and music leading up to that scene was so perfectly shot; the confidence, anger and years of emotional abuses he displayed. He was so misunderstood and he waited patiently for his time to turn the tables around. JM and XF love was more mature in a way, something between adults. They have amazing chemistry and they match each other visually very well. AoL was definitely more character driven as we the audience were attached to the characters.
L&R - so fun, so much angst, and so many lovable scenes. Graphics and OST did not fall short. If AoL was character driven, this was more plot driven. We were told right from the beginning that this is how the story is going to go so watch how it unfolds but the twists and turns in-between were unpredictable. I was actually more invested in the supporting characters in this drama than AoL. The chemistry between the support characters was fire. It took me a while to feel the chemistry between the leads but once I felt it, it was great. Their love was more innocent and youthful as it transitioned from being friends to lovers. Their kisses in the beginning were short and sweet but towards the end, that famous tongue kiss scene showed their passion and growth as lovers. Side note, that scene is definitely one of the best kiss scenes I've ever watched.
While I love both, it's AoL over L&R for me . Reason why is because I really dislike self sacrificing, noble idiot type of lovers. No matter how romantic. SF was that type. I dislike seeing imbalance sacrifices when it comes to love. Partners are supposed to both give up something (or things) and be on equal footing. It should be 50/50 all the way. SF was in no way a perfect partner but he did way too much for a girl that didn't deserve him. Its called "love and redemption". SF did all the love but there was no redemption at all on XJ's part. I thought it was the writing/actress that caused me to dislike XJ when I completed L&R the first time around. After watching it 2 more times, I definitely just don't like her character and how she "redeemed" herself. So in all, JM wins FL and SF wins ML.
I'll just watch Immortal Samsara with these two LOL When it comes to acting, chemistry, and being visually compatible, YZ and CY match each other extremely well.
What's your favorite scene? I'm struggling to pick even the top 3. There are just too many memorable scenes.
My favorite top 3.
1. Episode 10 - bathtub kiss scene
2. Episode 10 - when YD took YY out onto the "porch(?)" To show him the blooming lotuses. She drew a picture of where each flower was located and then confessed to him while writing it in his palm. I love, love the realization on YY's face. Cheng Yi portrayed this scene extremely well with his eyes.
3. I'm torned between my last scene. Either the rooftop scene between YD and TZ when she told him about how she watched the stars with someone 900 years ago and he asked if she would forgive him if he dies. I literally took that as YY asking YD the question, not TZ.
Or the scene when TZ /YY finally regained his memories. That whole set up leading to the scene was amazingly well done and intriguing.
Been a silent lurker since the drama started airing. This comment section has kept me sane while impatiently waiting…
Had to rewatch it again the 2nd time in order to be able to "accept" the ending we were given. First time, i screamed at my phone when the credits came on at the end. Lmfao.
2nd time, I cried tears of buckets cause i think this ending is perfect for them. We've been known that YY was a person of responsibility and YD gave him the encourage to be able to have both love and still keep his responsibilities. I think it was very selfless of him to sacrifice himself.
And yes even though it made YD looked "ungrateful" for his sacrifice, I completely understand why she followed him. If it was me, I personally would have done the same thing. There is no joy in life, especially for immortals and spirits who can live up to thousands of years if you live a long lonely life.
I definitely wanted more skinship and kisses between YY and YD but we only got ONE, which I'll take what i can get at this point. Haha.
I'll be rewatching and coming bsck until next week.
Been a silent lurker since the drama started airing. This comment section has kept me sane while impatiently waiting each week for the episodes. Just got done with all the releases.
Okay so rewatching made me realise how self-centered YD's reasons for saving YY while he was consumed by the fire…
I agreed. Most people in general misunderstand love thinking that it should be transactional when in fact, love is about being selfless and giving your all without expecting anything in return. It isnt about gaining, owning, or keeping scores. Young YD had a bad misconception of love thinking if she did all of this for YY then he must return her love or she's owed something in return.
Take Yumo for example. I think he's the best at this whole love game than anybody. He's done so much for his friends, loved ones, and YD but he's never expected them to return the flavor.
After watching the last episode and seeing how YD finally understands that true love isnt about yourself but instead, it's about helping the one you love obtain happiness in whatever way or form. Seeing the one you love happy makes you happy.
This time when YD does push away YY, I think she's not making it about herself. She now understands that there's more to life than just love. In modern day, imagine having to choose between giving up your career or lover because they both are incompatible. Years ago, I gave up my dreams to be with my lover. It broke me and made me depressed for years but i also didnt want to lose him either. Sometimes, we cant have both. YD in this case doesnt want YY to choose between his career and his lover so she'll make this easy for him.
This actually reminds me of one of Shawn Mendes's song where he talks about how his lover is having a hard time choosing so instead of watching her struggle between him and whatever other choice she's fighting against, he'll make it easy for her by leaving first.
Sorry i went off topic a bit. Haha I'm really enjoying these different views and perspectives.
So I hated MY in the novel till the very end. I had no sympathy for him even at the end. SJ, I cried hard tears for her the entire time. She deserved so much better and someone who was willing to be her sword and shield. Not someone to tell her she should be benevolent and move forward. Nah, eff that. In the drama, MY was tolerable. At least he showed affection and emotions in the beginning of their marriage.
I know there are a lot of discussions and talks about how ppl dont like how TTJ handles his outbursts and vengeances. To me, that's more realistic than being a benevolent, peacemaking person. MY here, thinks he can find justice and forgive people on behalf of SJ. Who is he to forgive them when the person who has been hurt hasnt forgiven or forgotten? These kind of people are optimistic but they live in an unrealistic bubble. What SJ want is an eye for eye, blood for blood and in this case, a tribe for a tribe. MY doesnt believe in that theory. He believes in upright, judicial punishment.
Sorry but i gotta side with TTJ and SJ in this story on how they handle grievances. I think we are in no postion to tell someone to "get over it, they got punished" when in fact, we don't know how deeply actions of the offenders affected them. People's pain level are different and giving them grace and room for redemption is the best outcome.
It wasn't until he met LSS that she taught him other emotions, such as love, happiness, and even hope for a chance at a normal life of growing old with your loved one. That's why later on when she betrays him, it hurts him so much more. He's reminded him of how undeserving of love he is and how he's truly destined to be alone/hated.
I like to think of these characters as a box of crayon that only contains the colors white and black. They haven't yet been introduced to other colors like orange, purple, red, gray, etc... and so these colors don't exist in their box. Through their existence they may be able to be able to fill their box with all the colors... or they may never. In this case, TTJ will be able to fill his box with colors and we get to witness him do that through LSS.
ZY in this episode hits hard. Depression is hard to get out of. When you're stuck in an depressive state, it will drag you down. Most people dont understand that all it takes is something small to trigger you to fall into that state.
LX in this episode was as everyone had mentioned, just an asshole but so relatable. He's compose and nonchalant almost all the time except when it comes to things that he truly loves, like programming and loved ones then he loses it. His actions are speaking louder than his words but he isnt noticing it ( everyone else did).
The ending though was super nice. They sort of finally was able to talk like adults without gripping their weapon and shield. It's a small but good direction where they are heading. Being friends again before they can become lovers once more; afterall they lost a few years in between. They need time to catch up and readjust to each other's lives.
Of course, I've also read "interview with the vampire" where the male character didnt differentiate between female or male and would just suck their blood for fuel.
But who even knows. LOL it's up to the blood sucker to know that.
Here's my opinion.
Female leads: I honestly preferred JM over XJ. Maybe it was the actress but JM was more likeable. Her innocence and childlike traits were fun to watch as well as her character growth. It's not just the lighthearted scenes that made JM better but her emotional scenes were better portrayed and delivered. Again, probably due to the actress. I can't relate to a FL that unintentionally and intentionally causes harm to their loved ones like XJ. Of course, in the beginning, it was completely no fault of her own but even when she found out she's been the one causing harm, the actress playing her couldn't emote it as well. However, the writing and depth for XJ as a character was better. Her past was tragic and her character growth was amazing to watch. YBY did great playing a navie and clueless XJ but her emotional scenes felt short for me. Maybe if it was a different actress, XJ would had won in the FL category.
Male Leads: Both were great and these roles sky rocketed them to stardom. XF was the perfect male lead; great at everything, loved by everybody, powerful, handsome, smart, and obviously next in line for the throne. He's egotistic, entitled, cocky, and devoted. My biggest complaint about XF was his lack of empathy and ability to sympathize with the people who suffered under the ruling of his parents. He was told by many that his parents are evil and were hated by many. However he never questioned his parents or their actions. He just continued to view them as the world's greatest rulers and parents. He was possessive over JM and couldn't take no for an answer which honestly was what lead to his own downfall. I do love his devotion and pure love towards JM but my dude gotta take a hint and back off.
Now, Si Feng... ah Si Feng, if XF was the perfect male lead, SF takes the title as the perfect male lead in the male lead world. Everything he does is just so full of love, loyalty, and sweetness. Maybe I'm Cheng Yi biased but his micro expressions are to die for. SF is shy, arrogant, super smart, handsome, but aloof and a bit insecure due to the lovers curse. But at the end of the day, he's just so human and so kind. Here's the complaint, his lack of communication is what drove him to his own grave. Though he respected XJ as a person, he didn't respect her enough as a significant other or as an equal. He made all the decisions for her without thinking about how she would feel if she found out. He assumed she wasn't going to be able to emotionally handle it and purposely hid things to "protect" her. I don't really like it when ML makes big decisions for FL or when they can't communicate properly. In real life, this kind of relationship isn't going to last long.
Story telling/Cinematography/OST:
AoL - so poetic, so beautiful, and amazing graphics/colors. Heart wrenching soundtrack and bgms. The flow of the story was great. We get to see how each character is introduced and a bit of their personalities. First time around, I didn't like the mortal realm arc as I felt it dragged but second time around, it's probably my favorite arc out of the entire series. My favorite thing about AoL was Run Yu. OMG this actor and his character WOW. I love watching him transitioned from a lonely and chill God to a downright villian. Around ep 45 (maybe), the setup and music leading up to that scene was so perfectly shot; the confidence, anger and years of emotional abuses he displayed. He was so misunderstood and he waited patiently for his time to turn the tables around. JM and XF love was more mature in a way, something between adults. They have amazing chemistry and they match each other visually very well. AoL was definitely more character driven as we the audience were attached to the characters.
L&R - so fun, so much angst, and so many lovable scenes. Graphics and OST did not fall short. If AoL was character driven, this was more plot driven. We were told right from the beginning that this is how the story is going to go so watch how it unfolds but the twists and turns in-between were unpredictable. I was actually more invested in the supporting characters in this drama than AoL. The chemistry between the support characters was fire. It took me a while to feel the chemistry between the leads but once I felt it, it was great. Their love was more innocent and youthful as it transitioned from being friends to lovers. Their kisses in the beginning were short and sweet but towards the end, that famous tongue kiss scene showed their passion and growth as lovers. Side note, that scene is definitely one of the best kiss scenes I've ever watched.
While I love both, it's AoL over L&R for me . Reason why is because I really dislike self sacrificing, noble idiot type of lovers. No matter how romantic. SF was that type. I dislike seeing imbalance sacrifices when it comes to love. Partners are supposed to both give up something (or things) and be on equal footing. It should be 50/50 all the way. SF was in no way a perfect partner but he did way too much for a girl that didn't deserve him. Its called "love and redemption". SF did all the love but there was no redemption at all on XJ's part. I thought it was the writing/actress that caused me to dislike XJ when I completed L&R the first time around. After watching it 2 more times, I definitely just don't like her character and how she "redeemed" herself. So in all, JM wins FL and SF wins ML.
I'll just watch Immortal Samsara with these two LOL When it comes to acting, chemistry, and being visually compatible, YZ and CY match each other extremely well.
1. Episode 10 - bathtub kiss scene
2. Episode 10 - when YD took YY out onto the "porch(?)" To show him the blooming lotuses. She drew a picture of where each flower was located and then confessed to him while writing it in his palm. I love, love the realization on YY's face. Cheng Yi portrayed this scene extremely well with his eyes.
3. I'm torned between my last scene. Either the rooftop scene between YD and TZ when she told him about how she watched the stars with someone 900 years ago and he asked if she would forgive him if he dies. I literally took that as YY asking YD the question, not TZ.
Or the scene when TZ /YY finally regained his memories. That whole set up leading to the scene was amazingly well done and intriguing.
2nd time, I cried tears of buckets cause i think this ending is perfect for them. We've been known that YY was a person of responsibility and YD gave him the encourage to be able to have both love and still keep his responsibilities. I think it was very selfless of him to sacrifice himself.
And yes even though it made YD looked "ungrateful" for his sacrifice, I completely understand why she followed him. If it was me, I personally would have done the same thing. There is no joy in life, especially for immortals and spirits who can live up to thousands of years if you live a long lonely life.
I definitely wanted more skinship and kisses between YY and YD but we only got ONE, which I'll take what i can get at this point. Haha.
I'll be rewatching and coming bsck until next week.
Take Yumo for example. I think he's the best at this whole love game than anybody. He's done so much for his friends, loved ones, and YD but he's never expected them to return the flavor.
After watching the last episode and seeing how YD finally understands that true love isnt about yourself but instead, it's about helping the one you love obtain happiness in whatever way or form. Seeing the one you love happy makes you happy.
This time when YD does push away YY, I think she's not making it about herself. She now understands that there's more to life than just love. In modern day, imagine having to choose between giving up your career or lover because they both are incompatible. Years ago, I gave up my dreams to be with my lover. It broke me and made me depressed for years but i also didnt want to lose him either. Sometimes, we cant have both. YD in this case doesnt want YY to choose between his career and his lover so she'll make this easy for him.
This actually reminds me of one of Shawn Mendes's song where he talks about how his lover is having a hard time choosing so instead of watching her struggle between him and whatever other choice she's fighting against, he'll make it easy for her by leaving first.
Sorry i went off topic a bit. Haha I'm really enjoying these different views and perspectives.