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We all make our mistakes big or small. Mothers hv their own issues, bad experiences n upbringing as well which unfortunately they never overcome n bring in to affects their own children. Sometimes they cannot help it. Don let ur parents attitude n perspective in life affect you. We can't choose our family but we can choose not to let their negativity affect us n our future including our children. Hope u will always stay positive.

As a mother to a 11 year girl, my heart breaks even just thinking my girl being grind down to mud in public n completely helpless in the process. Somemore the person welding that knife is one owm mother. As a mother, I can't forgive css mother. Maybe the script writer really need to find a hate target. But ya, very dark this yuamyi character.

I thought I was the only one having ptsd over ep 24. I really want to rewatch but the thought of her mother's every word n her father not even doing one bit really make me feel very heavy hearted. Almost like to dark to watch.

Agree. Should just release last 3 n start afresh part 2 in new week.

Exactly. Or request to go to another chamber for further discussion. I mean if she says as mother I have not taught her well enough to take up such important position of being a wife of a high standing position. Can definitely request to give them more time.

i really cannot see the issues of his proposal. she has been ridiculed by every i mean EVERY single person who heard her name...ah u the girl who got the broken engagement with Lou. i mean as if it is her fault or something wrong with her. So coming in to propose in front of the emperor and her family to me is giving the Chengs and CSS the highest honour. I am getting the top man in the country to present my proposal. in chinese society u get the most reputable matchmaker in town or the highest respected elders in your family to execute this part of marriage deal and lby did the most social norm. The emperor is like his Father. How can we fault that.

Of course, maybe he could have done it behind tighter close doors but the events of the day is quite triggering. no. 1 the girls are vicious to almost hurting her physically and the no 2. 5th prince is acting up funny, who knows the idiot may really ask for css to be his concubine, So lby blurted out...sorry she is taken and now i can marry her (he has to stake his claim then or risk another LY). With that, he NEEDs to follow it up ASAP otherwise css will be another round of laughing stock among the princes this time. if he doesnt follow through, the princes will see her as object of easy flirting to be abandoned as they like. and in those day, lby will only be seen as flirt due to his almost princely position while css reputation will be tarnished.

But it is true, he is probably knows css may say no, so in his military mind, this is called surround your target with no route to escape. what he miscalculated was her mother shocking treatment of her own daughter in public. that i think he never expected it. And the part he loftily tell her to shut up satisfied all of us and it is as good as saying u have spoken enough for today.

I believe the emperor and empress are very kind ppl and as most of us notice they are very down to earth people. the emperor never resort to us his power unnecessary (even with ly case, he could have just issue an edict to fulfil the He general wish and break cheng lou engagement but in the end he let them decide themselves). it is almost like they will never use their special position to force ppl.
So lby open proposal was really not to force the chengs, it was more of respect. i am getting the most respected elders in my family to propose , just like how ly asked his elder uncle to the proposal.

But it was css parents reaction that activate the fighting mode in the imperial family and ultimately as yes from their own daughter. the following reactions from them shows how insulted they felt as i believe none of them could believe the extend the css mother go to demean her own daughter.
3rd prince reaction (in sarcasm but it also mean u are looking down at us?!): wow as far as i know, all the girls in the city are dying to marry zisheng. Mrs Cheng does not want zisheng so badly she is willing to call her own daughter worthless. zisheng must be really having bad reputation of being scary.
Crown prince reaction: general cheng, this is regarding imperial family face and esteem, u better think thrice again before answering again.
Emperor of course is spitting mad. My golden boy want to marry your girl and u are resorting to some serious accusation of ur own girl to get out of it this... as a father, he is so worry lby may not even consider marry again if he is rejected. a bit like my boy likes this, i will go to the end of the earth to get it for him. as an emperor, he really felt challenged. my God!!! the chengs are so crazy saying they will quit and leave the city. seriously, general cheng. even quitting in modern world need boss permission, when u work in the world where one word from emperor ur head goes rolling off, u think you can pack your bag, throw in resignation and quit just like that. hilarous!!! i really don know if mr and mrs cheng themselves actually know social etiquettes and imperial office SOP (face palm) and they dare say css uncouth. they action is what i see as uncouth. if lby has not stop the emperor by almost shouting Your Majesty he would have called for a beating or some serious punishments for cheng.

so ya, i think lby way to proposal is fine, the cheng reactions are the issue here that cause the most dramatic proposal.

yes and the another bit is if it is any other cheng girls we will be so honoured. hello....there is only another cheng gal yang yang....the drama keeps on creating new low for the mother....when u think she cannot get any meaner, she gets worst.

There is only 2. What makes her think yang2 will be OK for the royal family n lby. Yang2 will be torn apart in a sec. At least css can put up a good fight. Her mum is too blinded. As parents, we know ever child is different. U need to build their strength not trying to demean one n uplift another. If not for css n yy such good gals the mum is orchestrating a family sisters hating n tearing each other apart tragedy.

Bad mouth is mild word. She literally says her daughter is mud n dirt. It's humiliation. Demeaning. Totally uncall for.

No prob love to share what we see.

Instead of saying I got hurt saving her from danger which is the truth n direct to eliminate any rumour. He use word like I got hurt for her. Which can create lots of ???? In other listeners' heads. Haha... Just like in city gate episode when he met them at City gate. He says we went through life n death n she undress me, nurse me. He makes it sound so.... Khm khm khm.. Not sure about the novel whether he did the same.

Did lby actually drove dad out of the his house so that he can spend quality time w her. Aren't they suppose not to be alone wo chaperone?

I just get this feeling lby is very very good at dropping hints to everyone that he n css has something going on haha.....it is like go imagine n ya what u imagine is true... I admit I admit.. He is cunning.

Just bc ysj was w her alone, the girl make so much insinuation. I think they will faint like 10 x over if they know css saw lby upper torso n how many times they hv episodes of contact n time alone haha....

Can anyone imagine ysj reaction of this engagement. I think he prob doesn't know who he should hate more, lby, css or himself.

The way he put it is leaves everyone imaging what has she done to 'hurt' him. He is trying to mske everyone feel there is something gong on btw them. Lol... He can flirt. Hahs

At least 3 girls in the Luncheon fancy themselves in love w him. Wan long fan girl him as well.. Eeekkkk... Our lby is a highly intelligent guy, as if he can't see through superficiality.

U only want to be his loved ones. Definitely not his enemies haha

U r so right.. Her mum is all about cheap scoldings. She herself never groom her daughter at all. After the royal mountain trip, css already show her she has zero knowledge in Royal etiquette by addressing emperor with hi! n yet she did not even bother giving her some talks before hand.

Eg. She is like a mom who knows her daughter will hv first period soon n yet never bother to tell her about. Then scold her for staining her dress.

Hyenas those girls. Vicious n wailing.

Hyenas those girls. Vicious n wailing.

Did u guys see emperor reaction when he heard yuchang princess fainted haha.... He actually try not to laugh. I think he is just happy he is marrying off all his kids. Lby as his youngest son.

I love that bit, he literally shut her up. Any other son in law will cower on front of css mum. Lby steely character plus he is literally a Prince, raise as one n treated like one, so as royalty he knows he is above them in status. It is even put like that by the crown Prince... This is concerning royal family esteem n face. But it shows how annoyed he n the emperor is w mum.