Well now, I'm usually staying away from controversial subjects and debates, because they tend to devolve into slugging mud fest and serve no purpose whatsoever, but today I would like to point out a few things if I may! First and foremost, I want to pay tribute to Lee Sun Kyun who played the main role brilliantly in the original Korean series 'My Mister'. The tragic loss of him is still pains me greatly to this day and I often think about his widow and his teenage sons who must endure the absence of his loving embrace for the rest of their lives. The irony of the cruel twist of fate that played out in real life that concluded in heart-wrenching tragedy instead of a positive resolution is not lost on me. His character saw the light at the end of the tunnel, but unfortunately Sun Kyun wasn't able to wait for that light to shine on him and he is missed and will never be forgotten! Back to my reason for posting, which is the issue about if this is a "May-December romance" variation or not? Age gap storyline is always a hot debate topic and keep circling around the same issue, namely who's playing the part of the morality police, who's preaching from religious or social dogma platforms and who's taking the part of a human rights public defender! Let's put aside our verbal swords also known as keyboards for a moment and take a deep breath! Unclench your fingers and contemplate on the next few sentences that follows below. Emotions are chemical reactions, that get triggered without our conscious consent! Love, hate, aggression, compassion, joy or grief floods our system in a fraction of the speed of thought and there's no defense against it! No matter where are you coming from, if you are a modern homo sapiens you are experiencing the same things! It's completely irrelevant if you agree or not about a relationship that may or may not exists between 2 FICTIONAL CONSENTING ADULTS! Let's try NOT to project our personal and obviously very bias world views onto something that was intended for entertaining purposes and to makes us feel and think about certain issues that might trigger some turmoil deep inside us! As for me, I'll be crying through this series for many reasons and I'll brave all the emotional cyclones that it will bring forth in me!
I see you haven't watched many Thai bl shows then. I mean the concerns you raised are considered features of thai…
Oh, welcome to the family! May I ask, how did you stumble upon our beloved BL drama rabbit whole? Are you a manga/manhwa/yaoi fan? If you would like a few recommendations, I'll be happy to suggest some titles with any BL tropes that you are interested in or curious about.
I see you haven't watched many Thai bl shows then. I mean the concerns you raised are considered features of thai…
Actually, I'm a veteran, I've been watching BLs over 15 years now, hence my annoyance level doing the lambada on the rooftop!😄 Don't get me wrong, I'm occasionally inclined to watch series that never heard of plot, logic or common sense, but there have to be something in them that would lead me to voluntarily brain-leakage! One prime example is 'Unforgotten Night'! It was so bad that it was epic! I literally snort-laughed through the whole series and had a jolly good ride and even rewatched it a few times! Unrealistic BDSM scenes - check, idiotic mafia plot - check, sub-par acting - check, petting a CGI tiger...wait what??!! - double check! It's so in-your-face bad, that it has legendary epic failure status that kept me chuckling and giggling for hours! That series should be sold as a antidepressant!
Hm, I just finished the first episode and I'm somewhat intrigued! It's a unique plot, the acting is on par so far and I see potential! It seems to me, that I'll be required to use my braincells on this one which usually is a good sign for me as long as it doesn't turn out to be some nonsensical sci-fi garbage! I'll be back with a verdict after I watched the next 2 episodes!
This series got a wrong title, it should be named The POS' Academy! I was on the fence about giving some of my valuable time to this show, but after this episode I'm tapping out! I'm truly sick of stupid plots like having a grown ass man who runs a business but is just a wide-eyed virgin! Not to mention he is someone who's never been kissed, but 2 minutes into his first smooch session he is eating the other dude's mouth like a seasoned pro and ready for a cherry pop, knowing very well that a guy is just a player! His brother not much better either...scratch that, his brother is even worse! He brought the devil home who's BTW is his best friend, and literally screwed said best friends' intended next prey in his virgin bro's bedroom while let the devil cuddle up to his innocent brother under the blankie! Anyone who knows me is well aware of the fact that I'm all over for red flags and black flags like white on rice, but I won't tolerate brain-numbing, idiotic writing to get my jollies off on the next available scumbag sliding down on the BL cheap junk-assembly line! I prefer my BL fetish/mental malfunction to be serviced by brilliant, cunning psychopaths, soulless playboys and the top dogs of the human or the supernatural underworld! I think my IQ just dropped about 15 points after this episode, so it's time for me to gather up the rest of my marbles and hit the exit!
People, I'm just here for the visuals! Yeah, I know that it's so shallow of me, but we've got car commercials that are longer than these "episodes"! There are no rules that forbids mindlessly drooling over physical hotness, am I right?🤣
I think YY has figured that BH hasn’t moved on since their last date when he was honest with her. This truth…
Unfortunately, BH will distance himself from YN one way or another before decision day, so she won't have to make that choice. Not to mention, that after the ex-dates it will be very clear to YN that BH will choose HJ regardless of the outcome of that decision. If the rules allow it, she might just leave after saying a quick goodbye to BH!
After all this, the only person whom I really rooted for and worried about is the one who'll get hurt the most in the end! YN is the only one who's never played a game or manipulated others nor did she leave any doubt about her true feelings and intentions! Her honesty, her bright personality and good nature stands out from the rest of the cast. I think I'm no longer invested in any of the couples may that be the past or potential repeat offenders. As far as I can see, none of them are brave or mature enough to face hard truths. Growing up is no easy task and it doesn't come with an age limit either! No matter if it's 22, 32 or 62, growth and maturity is an ever moving goalpost that cannot be reached nor can it be avoided or ignored without serious consequences! When the season is over I'll check the comments to confirm what I already know is coming. I only hope, when YN gets back to RL she'll find a very nice man (clad in denim of course!) who will treat her like a true treasure that she really is!
I knew that BH would break YY's heart! I can also predict, that IRL BH's heart will be broken by HJ once again! Their relationship will be based on BH complete devotion to HJ which wasn't enough for her back then and it won't sustain the relationship for long this time around either! At least YY won't waste her time and her feelings on someone who's still hung up on his ex and wouldn't be able to really give his heart to YY!
If you haven't seen Love (X) yet, you should give it a try if you have no objection to LGBTQ+ romance! It's a spicey Thai dating show where you could fall in love with someone regardless of gender!
After finishing ep15 I have only one question left: What the bloody Hell am I suppose to do on next Saturday.... actually, make that EVERY Saturday until the special episodes arrive???!! I never used drugs in my life, but I think I'm about to go through a brutal withdrawal!🥴😵💫
Hmm... Can I buy a vowel? Or a consonant? Maybe, I can purchase a whole bloody short essay from somewhere that is full of adequate words that can describe how I feel about TMS? If I say that I'm in love with this series, it's like stating that the ocean is wet. Also, calling Fan Xiao a red flag or a black flag is useless, because he is a PSYCHO FLAG who deserves his own universe! Honestly, when Hua Yong glided into my life in 'ABO Desire' I knew that I've found my ultimate PSYCHO OVERLORD who shall rule me until my departure from this world and I happily curled up into a ball at his feet, all content and complete. My declaration still stands, but Fan Xiao gets to borrow me from my Deranged Master for a couple of hours to be mentally and emotionally abused just for the fun of it! Alas, who needs sanity anyways? At this rate, I should just book a room in the nearest looney bin in advance! Who needs a Christmas vacation when you can have all the thrills on your own sofa for free? Happy Holidays my fellow members of Lunatics United!
After all that crap Van pulled he needs to be kicked out of the apartment ASAP! Farm needs to grow a pair and give that man-ho a boot for good! This type of red flag is almost impossible to turn into a decent person let alone to become a loyal and devoted boyfriend! Also, I'm getting so tired of watching Jerome constantly lying to Jinn! Poor Jinn is the only one who's been kept in the dark by both his boyfriend and his mom! This series should have got the title 'Lies 2 Lies'!
It's only the first episode and I'm way too emotional and stressed out! I don't think I'm emotionally stable enough (thanks 'To My Shore' for ruining me!) to watch poor Phoon getting put through the wringer from the get go! I mean, can't we just get eased into the bubbling lava of soul crushing pain instead of a drop kick? Abused and traumatized childhood is bad enough of a starter, but piling on a dead sister topped with a self-blaming survivor's guilt, insomnia, nightmares and abandonment issues is a wee bit much for just the first episode don't you think? Oh, let's not forget the eating disorder and the kneejerk reaction lying part, sprinkled with an ongoing LINE chat scam with his savior/ hero/childhood bestie and the secret love of his life! All that crammed into 45 minutes! No wonder that I'm bloody exhausted already! Someone just hand me a hankie please and lets suffer together!
I'm so worried that YY will get really hurt, because she is all in, all sincere and really likes BH! If I could give BH an advice, I would say that love that could truly last a lifetime shouldn't feel this desperately painful, especially not from the second time around! Hurting that much from the get go even after years being apart should be a huge red flag! Their first time around was a hot mess to begin with that shouldn't be "rewarded" with a round two! Just IMHO of course!
I’ll keep saying this To My Shore is one of the best BLs i’ve seen in my 15 years of watching asian BL. Hands…
I'm totally with you on that! I've been watching BLs for over 15 years as well and this series is beyond anything that I've ever imagined in my wildest dreams of what a true BL masterpiece could be! As far as toxic relationship trope goes this is the ultimate level that won't be reached for a very long time if ever!
I just have to say it again: This series is one of the best BLs I've seen in a decade! It is mind boggling to me how shockingly underrated this masterpiece is! Yes, you've read it right, it is a masterpiece as far as I'm concerned! The storyline, the acting and the production are all in the highest quality and I know that I'll be rewatching this many times over! If you value deep, meaningful plots that would move you and stays with you long after the credits rolled this series is for you. Not a wasted moment, no cliches, no fillers, no gimmicks! Raw emotions, realistic scenarios and thought provoking subjects. If you're into BLs only for pretty boys and NC scenes, you should move on to a different series! and The same goes for those younger audiences too who's not ready to step up from the cute schoolboy plots just yet either! For everyone else, do yourself a favor and give this series a shot! You'll be glad you did!
First and foremost, I want to pay tribute to Lee Sun Kyun who played the main role brilliantly in the original Korean series 'My Mister'.
The tragic loss of him is still pains me greatly to this day and I often think about his widow and his teenage sons who must endure the absence of his loving embrace for the rest of their lives.
The irony of the cruel twist of fate that played out in real life that concluded in heart-wrenching tragedy instead of a positive resolution is not lost on me.
His character saw the light at the end of the tunnel, but unfortunately Sun Kyun wasn't able to wait for that light to shine on him and he is missed and will never be forgotten!
Back to my reason for posting, which is the issue about if this is a "May-December romance" variation or not?
Age gap storyline is always a hot debate topic and keep circling around the same issue, namely who's playing the part of the morality police, who's preaching from religious or social dogma platforms and who's taking the part of a human rights public defender!
Let's put aside our verbal swords also known as keyboards for a moment and take a deep breath!
Unclench your fingers and contemplate on the next few sentences that follows below.
Emotions are chemical reactions, that get triggered without our conscious consent!
Love, hate, aggression, compassion, joy or grief floods our system in a fraction of the speed of thought and there's no defense against it!
No matter where are you coming from, if you are a modern homo sapiens you are experiencing the same things!
It's completely irrelevant if you agree or not about a relationship that may or may not exists between 2 FICTIONAL CONSENTING ADULTS!
Let's try NOT to project our personal and obviously very bias world views onto something that was intended for entertaining purposes and to makes us feel and think about certain issues that might trigger some turmoil deep inside us!
As for me, I'll be crying through this series for many reasons and I'll brave all the emotional cyclones that it will bring forth in me!
May I ask, how did you stumble upon our beloved BL drama rabbit whole? Are you a manga/manhwa/yaoi fan?
If you would like a few recommendations, I'll be happy to suggest some titles with any BL tropes that you are interested in or curious about.
Don't get me wrong, I'm occasionally inclined to watch series that never heard of plot, logic or common sense, but there have to be something in them that would lead me to voluntarily brain-leakage!
One prime example is 'Unforgotten Night'! It was so bad that it was epic! I literally snort-laughed through the whole series and had a jolly good ride and even rewatched it a few times!
Unrealistic BDSM scenes - check, idiotic mafia plot - check, sub-par acting - check, petting a CGI tiger...wait what??!! - double check!
It's so in-your-face bad, that it has legendary epic failure status that kept me chuckling and giggling for hours!
That series should be sold as a antidepressant!
It's a unique plot, the acting is on par so far and I see potential!
It seems to me, that I'll be required to use my braincells on this one which usually is a good sign for me as long as it doesn't turn out to be some nonsensical sci-fi garbage!
I'll be back with a verdict after I watched the next 2 episodes!
I was on the fence about giving some of my valuable time to this show, but after this episode I'm tapping out!
I'm truly sick of stupid plots like having a grown ass man who runs a business but is just a wide-eyed virgin! Not to mention he is someone who's never been kissed, but 2 minutes into his first smooch session he is eating the other dude's mouth like a seasoned pro and ready for a cherry pop, knowing very well that a guy is just a player!
His brother not much better either...scratch that, his brother is even worse!
He brought the devil home who's BTW is his best friend, and literally screwed said best friends' intended next prey in his virgin bro's bedroom while let the devil cuddle up to his innocent brother under the blankie!
Anyone who knows me is well aware of the fact that I'm all over for red flags and black flags like white on rice, but I won't tolerate brain-numbing, idiotic writing to get my jollies off on the next available scumbag sliding down on the BL cheap junk-assembly line!
I prefer my BL fetish/mental malfunction to be serviced by brilliant, cunning psychopaths, soulless playboys and the top dogs of the human or the supernatural underworld!
I think my IQ just dropped about 15 points after this episode, so it's time for me to gather up the rest of my marbles and hit the exit!
but we've got car commercials that are longer than these "episodes"!
There are no rules that forbids mindlessly drooling over physical hotness, am I right?🤣
Not to mention, that after the ex-dates it will be very clear to YN that BH will choose HJ regardless of the outcome of that decision.
If the rules allow it, she might just leave after saying a quick goodbye to BH!
YN is the only one who's never played a game or manipulated others nor did she leave any doubt about her true feelings and intentions!
Her honesty, her bright personality and good nature stands out from the rest of the cast.
I think I'm no longer invested in any of the couples may that be the past or potential repeat offenders.
As far as I can see, none of them are brave or mature enough to face hard truths.
Growing up is no easy task and it doesn't come with an age limit either!
No matter if it's 22, 32 or 62, growth and maturity is an ever moving goalpost that cannot be reached nor can it be avoided or ignored without serious consequences!
When the season is over I'll check the comments to confirm what I already know is coming.
I only hope, when YN gets back to RL she'll find a very nice man (clad in denim of course!) who will treat her like a true treasure that she really is!
At least YY won't waste her time and her feelings on someone who's still hung up on his ex and wouldn't be able to really give his heart to YY!
I never used drugs in my life, but I think I'm about to go through a brutal withdrawal!🥴😵💫
Or a consonant?
Maybe, I can purchase a whole bloody short essay from somewhere that is full of adequate words that can describe how I feel about TMS?
If I say that I'm in love with this series, it's like stating that the ocean is wet.
Also, calling Fan Xiao a red flag or a black flag is useless, because he is a PSYCHO FLAG who deserves his own universe!
Honestly, when Hua Yong glided into my life in 'ABO Desire' I knew that I've found my ultimate PSYCHO OVERLORD who shall rule me until my departure from this world and I happily curled up into a ball at his feet, all content and complete.
My declaration still stands, but Fan Xiao gets to borrow me from my Deranged Master for a couple of hours to be mentally and emotionally abused just for the fun of it!
Alas, who needs sanity anyways?
At this rate, I should just book a room in the nearest looney bin in advance!
Who needs a Christmas vacation when you can have all the thrills on your own sofa for free?
Happy Holidays my fellow members of Lunatics United!
Farm needs to grow a pair and give that man-ho a boot for good!
This type of red flag is almost impossible to turn into a decent person let alone to become a loyal and devoted boyfriend!
Also, I'm getting so tired of watching Jerome constantly lying to Jinn! Poor Jinn is the only one who's been kept in the dark by both his boyfriend and his mom!
This series should have got the title 'Lies 2 Lies'!
I don't think I'm emotionally stable enough (thanks 'To My Shore' for ruining me!) to watch poor Phoon getting put through the wringer from the get go!
I mean, can't we just get eased into the bubbling lava of soul crushing pain instead of a drop kick?
Abused and traumatized childhood is bad enough of a starter, but piling on a dead sister topped with a self-blaming survivor's guilt, insomnia, nightmares and abandonment issues is a wee bit much for just the first episode don't you think?
Oh, let's not forget the eating disorder and the kneejerk reaction lying part, sprinkled with an ongoing LINE chat scam with his savior/ hero/childhood bestie and the secret love of his life!
All that crammed into 45 minutes!
No wonder that I'm bloody exhausted already!
Someone just hand me a hankie please and lets suffer together!
If I could give BH an advice, I would say that love that could truly last a lifetime shouldn't feel this desperately painful, especially not from the second time around! Hurting that much from the get go even after years being apart should be a huge red flag! Their first time around was a hot mess to begin with that shouldn't be "rewarded" with a round two!
Just IMHO of course!
It is mind boggling to me how shockingly underrated this masterpiece is!
Yes, you've read it right, it is a masterpiece as far as I'm concerned!
The storyline, the acting and the production are all in the highest quality and I know that I'll be rewatching this many times over!
If you value deep, meaningful plots that would move you and stays with you long after the credits rolled this series is for you.
Not a wasted moment, no cliches, no fillers, no gimmicks!
Raw emotions, realistic scenarios and thought provoking subjects.
If you're into BLs only for pretty boys and NC scenes, you should move on to a different series! and The same goes for those younger audiences too who's not ready to step up from the cute schoolboy plots just yet either!
For everyone else, do yourself a favor and give this series a shot!
You'll be glad you did!