you’re not alone. I barely made it through ep3. started ep4 and my brain just tuned it out.
Oh, so it's not just me! That's a relief! Honestly, if this BL wasn't a FortPeat series, I would skip it and maybe revisit it in another time! I'm only staying with it out of loyalty and support for FortPeat!
Spinoff with Mr Rich Villain? I'd sign a petition for that any day! Though my friend and I call him affectionately…
You know, I've been wondering about what went through in the producers' head when they saw the end result of the first season? I mean, in which universe would a sane person with clear eyes and half a brain after watching this breathtaking, huge pile of biohazard, nodded happily and said "This is great! Money well spent! Lets proudly show it to the world!"? What's even more baffling, is that after receiving so much unfavorable feedback from netizens in every continent, the producers went "Maybe the episodes were too short? That must be it! No worries, we can fix that in season 2! Since it's Christmas time, let them receive a special gift from Santa! " The "writers" did some brainstorming and come up with a "sinister plot", and a loaded villain with questionable fashion choices to emphasize his complete lack of ethics and detectable facial expressions! Meanwhile, Kim Kant-Hyear was promoted to be the new sound engineer, because he used to be a DJ in a heavy metal club back in the 80s, so he definitely got tons of experience with sounds, and he works for much less money than a real one! The "director" combined everything together, completely oblivious to any and all issues with the production and another masterpiece was successfully produced ahead of schedule, under budget and approved for mass consumption! I'm truly hoping, that this company would never goes out of business, so we could enjoy many more masterpieces like this for decades to come!
Sighs* Something must be wrong with me, because I'm not feeling this series! I absolutely adore FortPeat since LITA, and they're on top of their game in this BL as well, with good acting and great chemistry, still, I feel that something is missing! For one, I'm not happy with the time jumps, but that's just my preference and it doesn't take away a single thing from their acting. The plot have some gaps and because the aforementioned jumps, it feels choppy and a bit disjointed. Again, it's just my take on the writing, which is a subjective matter and not a criticism! Also, without proper background story, Kelvin's psychotic behavior feels unauthentic to me and it's not Peat's fault! Even with these issues, I should be able to immerse myself into this BL, but it's just not happening for me this time around! Again, nothing's wrong with FortPeat's performance, they are delivering as always, still something is missing, and I just can't put my finger on to what could be the problem?! Am I the only one one who's got this nagging feeling about this series?😵💫
Spinoff with Mr Rich Villain? I'd sign a petition for that any day! Though my friend and I call him affectionately…
Oh, Leather Jacket Rando sounds brilliant, although, since that hideous monstrosity that he is wearing was never introduced to actual leather, so, with your permission, shall we call him Fake Leather Rando or FLR for short? Naturally, the entire original crew must be employed once again to ensure the incredible "quality" that they all produced in the series! In my imaginary spinoff, I've got an idea, how to achieve the ultimate pinnacle of being epically bad: Create an OST composed by a glitchy AI, loaded with corny lyrics that's sung by a tone deaf idol-reject! Or would that be an overkill of epic badness?
Oh, I'm just so in love with this series! It is so epically bad, that when things make sense for a minute or two it feels like that I stumbled into the Twilight Zone! The "sound engineer" still in urgent need of a hearing aid and the voice actor should be checked for a pulse, because he conveys just as much emotion as the undead, and I'm not talking about those sparkly ones who are on a strict non-human diet! The BDSM theme is back in action sans safety word or any guardrail for our sweet, clueless boytoy, which actually fits the obvious lack of knowledge about the community that the "writers" display willingly with each chapter! Both the wardrobe and the set department doesn't do any favors either, but the color of the ballgag, the collar, the rope and the blinder was quite memorable for those who are into dried fake blood hue! The rich villain is quite fetching as well, wearing the same expression with the same attire in every shot, which makes me think that him being rich wasn't an information that was shared with the wardrobe people or most of the budget was spent on BDSM prop and Christmas decor! Honestly, I haven't snort-laughed through a BL this much since 'Kiseki Chapter 2' and I'm loving every second of it! This series is definitely a cult classic for the "It's so bad it's epic!" fans like me! Only four more episodes to go, and I'm already praying for season 3! Or, maybe, can we get a spinoff with Mr Rich Villain? Keep the same clothes and the same apple juice... err, I mean booze , to save on the budget! Wouldn't that be wonderful? I think, I should write to the producers to request another masterpiece!
Spreading negativity is not an opinion, it's a hate speech in disguise! When someone is sharing an unfavorable opinion, it's usually a well reasoned, constructive criticism that is respectful and it aims to have positive aspects! Attacking, trashing something or someone just because you don't like it and even telling others not to watch something is not an opinion, it's a one sided, judgmental self-service! Let me address one more thing, if I may! Nowadays, people throwing around hateful "opinions" to tear down others and thinking that they're superior and/or morally above others became a toxic habit of countless netizens around the planet! I would like to think, that politely pointing out that spreading negativity has no value, nor a place in a civilized society, may that be in the real world or in the virtual one is an important issue! Of course, it's just IMHO as always!
If it's Tuesday, it must be 'Peach Lover' time! Hello to all the haters and complainers, who have fatefully showed up once again, trying their best to tell the world how much they're hate to watch this series, and/or to complain about the same things all over again! I must say, that it's very admirable how dedicated these people are about wasting their precious time on spreading negativity about a FICTIONAL story, that has ZERO IMPACT on their lives! Week after week, they'll sit and willingly watch something that they're absolutely loathe! Talking about some motivation here! Very impressive! I'm having a hard time to find the time to watch things that I actually love to watch, let alone spending my valuable time on something that I can't stomach! Is there a special club where these netizens congregate that I'm unaware of? Maybe, my time management is not up to par, or my priorities and preferences are revolving around more positive/fun things?! Like teasing grumpy netizens here on MDL and having a jolly good time of it!😄 Meanwhile, 'Peach Lover' keeps rolling along, stirring up controversy and creating debates about these type of BLs, and their place within the genre! I think, 'Peach Lover' will become another cult classic for "So bad it's epic!" fans like me, taking it's rightful place beside such masterpieces like 'Unforgotten Night', 'Kiseki Chapter 2'and 'Tide of Love 2' just to name a few! This is a very elite list, ladies and gents and it's worthy of it's own pantheon!🤣🤣🤣 Just IMHO, as always! See you next Tuesday!
If you’re genuinely interested in an answer for your initial question, try to see completing an unfavorable…
Oh, I'll grant you that! AW had some very hard times at the helm for sure! However, BL is for entertainment, it's just a fantasy! Football on the other hand, is a very slowly executed suicide mission on a strictly voluntarily base, played out over decades of hard work and dedication!🤣 Every match has the potential to take years off from your life, and you'll live or die with every goal that the team scores or concedes! Hence all the juvenile behavior that some supporters are stooping to! Football moves billions of people on this planet! Nations would stand still and hold their collective breaths in every 4 years just for a game! We, football fans are more loopy than the craziest toxic ML in any drama!🤣 Tomorrow is the North London derby at the enemy's HQ, so I'll be a complete basket case, but I wouldn't change it for the world! I've been following BL for over 15 years now, but I'm a football fan since kindergarten, and I'm no spring chicken if you catch my drift!
If you’re genuinely interested in an answer for your initial question, try to see completing an unfavorable…
What you are describing in the last 3 lines of your reply is called constructive criticism and I highly value that! I only have issue with degrading/hateful comments that has nothing to offer! I know, that everyone is free to express their opinion, but spreading negativity and/or being hateful is completely unnecessary! So, if I see it, I will address it in a respectful manner, emphasizing the fact, that it's only IMHO and go on my merry way! As for complainers, I called them silly, because I'm one of the CEOs of Complainers United! I mean, I'm a life long Arsenal and Maple Leafs fan, so that should hands down support my claim to that title!🤣🤣🤣 When it comes my favorite football (that's soccer for the US netizens) and hockey teams, I practically own the "silly" label, because that's exactly what we are when we complain about something that cannot be helped at that moment!😄😄😄
Oh, I see that the hater/complainer horde is back in action again! Someone should explain this to me, because I might be a bit slow on the uptake, that if it's all bad/wrong/trash to these people, why are they keep watching it? Wasn't it clear from the first 2 episodes where does this BL stands? We all know, that it is one of those "it's so bad that it's epic" series, so if you stayed to watch it, you either a masochist or you might need to find a better hobby than needlessly enraging yourself on a weekly basis! Complaining about the correct dress code for the weather, or the questionable plot or the use of AI is kind of silly, and if you're complaining about the NC scenes too, then again, why are you keep watching this series? "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results!" This famous quote came to my mind after I've read some of the comments today! To be honest, I'm tuning in every week for the spicy bits and for a good laugh, because the minute you take this BL seriously you're in for a serious brain-leakage! Yes, I'm OK with being "shallow" time to time when it comes to BL, because why not? This is just harmless entertainment! Just IMHO as always! So, I'll keep watching and see you next week!
Alot of ppl were talking about it. But we can't reverse time and brain wash the producers into not adding that…
I'm glad that we agree on the fact, that the elimination tactic was a very bad idea even that I put my own label on it! I don't watch Western dating show, but I'm well aware of their bad reputation! However, I haven't seen any Asian gay dating show, that includes elimination tactics with one exception that I heard of where a rich guys had to chose from 20 guys or something on similar concept of The Bachelor/Bachelorette from the USA. Those are not really dating shows, they're just rich people playing for a new toy! If, I'm unaware of any Asian dating show either hetero or LGBTQ+ that use the Western model, please post a list of them here, so I can avoid it like a plague! I'll be the first one to admit, that I have no inside knowledge of what happened with the participants after the show ended. Naturally, all could be well with JaeHa or it could be a negative outcome, both with his family and getting back together with HJ! My point was, that we have to go on what we can observe right now and at the filming of the last 2 episodes, his anguish was clear to see! Yes, he isn't dying in the physical sense, but probably it felt like that to him! If you have any info one way or another, please share it with me and thanks in advance! Also, I never claimed to know, what the participant are thinking, I used the world assume, because that reflects MY opinion on the subject! That doesn't make me right or wrong, it's just me being less cynical or more foolish to some! Nevertheless, I respect your opinions and I'm enjoying this little debate that we've got goin on here and as always, it's just IMHO!
OK, I have a silly question! Is the harmonica solo is an original for episode 6, or is it a part of someone's record that can be purchased? I found it hauntingly beautiful, so if anyone knows where can I find it, please let me know! On other notes, Lin Feng Song has no right to be this hot and Chen Wen looked beyond adorable in that costume!
Alot of ppl were talking about it. But we can't reverse time and brain wash the producers into not adding that…
As I've said, this is IMHO! Making already emotionally vulnerable people doing something that is clearly wrong just for "entertainment" purposes earns a psychotic label from me! This is supposed to be a dating show, not a survival challenge! Again, I'm more emotional about these things than most people, and I can happily live with this fault of mine!! As far as I'm concerned, people get way too desensitized until it is their son, brother, cousin or friend who gets hurt! One more point that I would like to make if I may. In many parts of the world including South Korea, being a LGBTQ+ person is still just a somewhat tolerated state, because the country is very conservative and has a firm hold onto traditional values! Some of these people are sign up for this show to come out to their family, full of fear and anxiety about the outcome, just like Jaeha! For him, this is not some game, it could cost him the bond between him and his family! He is already desperately trying to hold on to a man who he loves after making a mistake! I guess it doesn't matter, right, since this is "only entertainment" for the masses?! I would even venture further and have the audacity to assume, that this is not a game for any of the participants! Alas, I'm from an older generation, so my world view is probably vastly different from the younger ones. So, to answer to your question, no, I haven't thought about that hurting people emotionally was a sane option to try out! Again, just IMHO!
I mean, in which universe would a sane person with clear eyes and half a brain after watching this breathtaking, huge pile of biohazard, nodded happily and said "This is great! Money well spent! Lets proudly show it to the world!"?
What's even more baffling, is that after receiving so much unfavorable feedback from netizens in every continent, the producers went "Maybe the episodes were too short? That must be it! No worries, we can fix that in season 2! Since it's Christmas time, let them receive a special gift from Santa! "
The "writers" did some brainstorming and come up with a "sinister plot", and a loaded villain with questionable fashion choices to emphasize his complete lack of ethics and detectable facial expressions!
Meanwhile, Kim Kant-Hyear was promoted to be the new sound engineer, because he used to be a DJ in a heavy metal club back in the 80s, so he definitely got tons of experience with sounds, and he works for much less money than a real one!
The "director" combined everything together, completely oblivious to any and all issues with the production and another masterpiece was successfully produced ahead of schedule, under budget and approved for mass consumption!
I'm truly hoping, that this company would never goes out of business, so we could enjoy many more masterpieces like this for decades to come!
Something must be wrong with me, because I'm not feeling this series!
I absolutely adore FortPeat since LITA, and they're on top of their game in this BL as well, with good acting and great chemistry, still, I feel that something is missing!
For one, I'm not happy with the time jumps, but that's just my preference and it doesn't take away a single thing from their acting.
The plot have some gaps and because the aforementioned jumps, it feels choppy and a bit disjointed. Again, it's just my take on the writing, which is a subjective matter and not a criticism!
Also, without proper background story, Kelvin's psychotic behavior feels unauthentic to me and it's not Peat's fault!
Even with these issues, I should be able to immerse myself into this BL, but it's just not happening for me this time around!
Again, nothing's wrong with FortPeat's performance, they are delivering as always, still something is missing, and I just can't put my finger on to what could be the problem?!
Am I the only one one who's got this nagging feeling about this series?😵💫
Naturally, the entire original crew must be employed once again to ensure the incredible "quality" that they all produced in the series!
In my imaginary spinoff, I've got an idea, how to achieve the ultimate pinnacle of being epically bad: Create an OST composed by a glitchy AI, loaded with corny lyrics that's sung by a tone deaf idol-reject!
Or would that be an overkill of epic badness?
It is so epically bad, that when things make sense for a minute or two it feels like that I stumbled into the Twilight Zone!
The "sound engineer" still in urgent need of a hearing aid and the voice actor should be checked for a pulse, because he conveys just as much emotion as the undead, and I'm not talking about those sparkly ones who are on a strict non-human diet!
The BDSM theme is back in action sans safety word or any guardrail for our sweet, clueless boytoy, which actually fits the obvious lack of knowledge about the community that the "writers" display willingly with each chapter!
Both the wardrobe and the set department doesn't do any favors either, but the color of the ballgag, the collar, the rope and the blinder was quite memorable for those who are into dried fake blood hue!
The rich villain is quite fetching as well, wearing the same expression with the same attire in every shot, which makes me think that him being rich wasn't an information that was shared with the wardrobe people or most of the budget was spent on BDSM prop and Christmas decor!
Honestly, I haven't snort-laughed through a BL this much since 'Kiseki Chapter 2' and I'm loving every second of it!
This series is definitely a cult classic for the "It's so bad it's epic!" fans like me!
Only four more episodes to go, and I'm already praying for season 3!
Or, maybe, can we get a spinoff with Mr Rich Villain? Keep the same clothes and the same apple juice... err, I mean booze , to save on the budget! Wouldn't that be wonderful?
I think, I should write to the producers to request another masterpiece!
When someone is sharing an unfavorable opinion, it's usually a well reasoned, constructive criticism that is respectful and it aims to have positive aspects!
Attacking, trashing something or someone just because you don't like it and even telling others not to watch something is not an opinion, it's a one sided, judgmental self-service!
Let me address one more thing, if I may!
Nowadays, people throwing around hateful "opinions" to tear down others and thinking that they're superior and/or morally above others became a toxic habit of countless netizens around the planet!
I would like to think, that politely pointing out that spreading negativity has no value, nor a place in a civilized society, may that be in the real world or in the virtual one is an important issue!
Of course, it's just IMHO as always!
Hello to all the haters and complainers, who have fatefully showed up once again, trying their best to tell the world how much they're hate to watch this series, and/or to complain about the same things all over again!
I must say, that it's very admirable how dedicated these people are about wasting their precious time on spreading negativity about a FICTIONAL story, that has ZERO IMPACT on their lives!
Week after week, they'll sit and willingly watch something that they're absolutely loathe!
Talking about some motivation here! Very impressive!
I'm having a hard time to find the time to watch things that I actually love to watch, let alone spending my valuable time on something that I can't stomach!
Is there a special club where these netizens congregate that I'm unaware of?
Maybe, my time management is not up to par, or my priorities and preferences are revolving around more positive/fun things?!
Like teasing grumpy netizens here on MDL and having a jolly good time of it!😄
Meanwhile, 'Peach Lover' keeps rolling along, stirring up controversy and creating debates about these type of BLs, and their place within the genre!
I think, 'Peach Lover' will become another cult classic for "So bad it's epic!" fans like me, taking it's rightful place beside such masterpieces like 'Unforgotten Night', 'Kiseki Chapter 2'and 'Tide of Love 2' just to name a few!
This is a very elite list, ladies and gents and it's worthy of it's own pantheon!🤣🤣🤣
Just IMHO, as always! See you next Tuesday!
However, BL is for entertainment, it's just a fantasy!
Football on the other hand, is a very slowly executed suicide mission on a strictly voluntarily base, played out over decades of hard work and dedication!🤣
Every match has the potential to take years off from your life, and you'll live or die with every goal that the team scores or concedes! Hence all the juvenile behavior that some supporters are stooping to!
Football moves billions of people on this planet! Nations would stand still and hold their collective breaths in every 4 years just for a game!
We, football fans are more loopy than the craziest toxic ML in any drama!🤣
Tomorrow is the North London derby at the enemy's HQ, so I'll be a complete basket case, but I wouldn't change it for the world!
I've been following BL for over 15 years now, but I'm a football fan since kindergarten, and I'm no spring chicken if you catch my drift!
I only have issue with degrading/hateful comments that has nothing to offer!
I know, that everyone is free to express their opinion, but spreading negativity and/or being hateful is completely unnecessary!
So, if I see it, I will address it in a respectful manner, emphasizing the fact, that it's only IMHO and go on my merry way!
As for complainers, I called them silly, because I'm one of the CEOs of Complainers United! I mean, I'm a life long Arsenal and Maple Leafs fan, so that should hands down support my claim to that title!🤣🤣🤣
When it comes my favorite football (that's soccer for the US netizens) and hockey teams, I practically own the "silly" label, because that's exactly what we are when we complain about something that cannot be helped at that moment!😄😄😄
Someone should explain this to me, because I might be a bit slow on the uptake, that if it's all bad/wrong/trash to these people, why are they keep watching it?
Wasn't it clear from the first 2 episodes where does this BL stands?
We all know, that it is one of those "it's so bad that it's epic" series, so if you stayed to watch it, you either a masochist or you might need to find a better hobby than needlessly enraging yourself on a weekly basis!
Complaining about the correct dress code for the weather, or the questionable plot or the use of AI is kind of silly, and if you're complaining about the NC scenes too, then again, why are you keep watching this series?
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results!" This famous quote came to my mind after I've read some of the comments today!
To be honest, I'm tuning in every week for the spicy bits and for a good laugh, because the minute you take this BL seriously you're in for a serious brain-leakage!
Yes, I'm OK with being "shallow" time to time when it comes to BL, because why not?
This is just harmless entertainment!
Just IMHO as always! So, I'll keep watching and see you next week!
I don't watch Western dating show, but I'm well aware of their bad reputation! However, I haven't seen any Asian gay dating show, that includes elimination tactics with one exception that I heard of where a rich guys had to chose from 20 guys or something on similar concept of The Bachelor/Bachelorette from the USA. Those are not really dating shows, they're just rich people playing for a new toy!
If, I'm unaware of any Asian dating show either hetero or LGBTQ+ that use the Western model, please post a list of them here, so I can avoid it like a plague!
I'll be the first one to admit, that I have no inside knowledge of what happened with the participants after the show ended.
Naturally, all could be well with JaeHa or it could be a negative outcome, both with his family and getting back together with HJ!
My point was, that we have to go on what we can observe right now and
at the filming of the last 2 episodes, his anguish was clear to see!
Yes, he isn't dying in the physical sense, but probably it felt like that to him!
If you have any info one way or another, please share it with me and thanks in advance!
Also, I never claimed to know, what the participant are thinking, I used the world assume, because that reflects MY opinion on the subject!
That doesn't make me right or wrong, it's just me being less cynical or more foolish to some!
Nevertheless, I respect your opinions and I'm enjoying this little debate that we've got goin on here and as always, it's just IMHO!
On other notes, Lin Feng Song has no right to be this hot and Chen Wen looked beyond adorable in that costume!
Making already emotionally vulnerable people doing something that is clearly wrong just for "entertainment" purposes earns a psychotic label from me! This is supposed to be a dating show, not a survival challenge!
Again, I'm more emotional about these things than most people, and I can happily live with this fault of mine!!
As far as I'm concerned, people get way too desensitized until it is their son, brother, cousin or friend who gets hurt!
One more point that I would like to make if I may.
In many parts of the world including South Korea, being a LGBTQ+ person is still just a somewhat tolerated state, because the country is very conservative and has a firm hold onto traditional values!
Some of these people are sign up for this show to come out to their family, full of fear and anxiety about the outcome, just like Jaeha!
For him, this is not some game, it could cost him the bond between him and his family! He is already desperately trying to hold on to a man who he loves after making a mistake! I guess it doesn't matter, right, since this is "only entertainment" for the masses?!
I would even venture further and have the audacity to assume, that this is not a game for any of the participants!
Alas, I'm from an older generation, so my world view is probably vastly different from the younger ones.
So, to answer to your question, no, I haven't thought about that hurting people emotionally was a sane option to try out!
Again, just IMHO!