Nepeta 22

Worse to come. She fell pregnant and he snatched the child away to bring up as his own with the help of his mother and gaslighting her throughout, shaming her by saying she would not be able to bring him up in her surroundings.. Very painful to watch because of realism of the time. but both leads done a great job. I'm expecting nominations for support FL next year.

You are missing the point of this whole drama. It's making fun of those plots where they wear thin veils or females play men and no one notices how bad the cover up is. And here she is, stuck in the drama also doing exactly the same moaning and complaining about tropes and she knows what is happening or what is best, and then she falls straight into dramaland trope herself by not adhering to her set of standards.

BTW, FL's character is just an average human and like many, think they're smarter than they are. If you look at the discussions here, a large portion of us are trying to second guess the plot line just as she is doing, and many get it wrong and maybe 1/3 get close to the what will happen next. I think drama watchers have grown so accustomed to perfect fL without knowing and then also say she has masses of plot amour too. It seems, FLs can't do anything right, and MLs have a free pass all the time. Some really need to be questioning themselves instead of the FL.

Realism doesn't seem to figure in some drama watchers anymore. They're so accustomed to the perfect (plot armour, oh she even had to explain that!) characters that just don't annoy by being super smart and land on their feet at all times. Being a good judge of character at all times, with x-ray vision because we the audience know so she should know too... But, no, she's annoying, dumb and a bitch apparently. Such venom laid at her door for repelling on a character that's ruthless, ambitious and cold.

We need to be asking, why judge FL like that yet the ML has all the passes. The double standards are so glaring.

Those that keep saying she's dumb have no idea since they refuse to accept they've been given the full over-seeing knowledge by the director. Quite ironic when I see these types of comments. BTW, there is no rule book that FL must be smart either. In Parallel World, the FL always thought she was smarter than others when in actual fact she's just a bolshy person that fancied herself. Her character didn't grow either.

If you are lifting figures from Marcus here, it's normally a weekly tally where as most users on MDL tend to reel out daily rankings. So it makes sense for dramas that have aired longer to gain more. Douban scores and viewing figures are two different things.

You are still not getting it. Whole point is she is supposed to be dumb has hell and cannot see what others see. Also her character is not supposed to be super smart. She think she's smarter than she is. You as a viewer have a broader view on the drama whilst she doesn't. Fact that you don't like seeing that means you are not fully on board with the "in joke".

Bar has been on the floor for a while to be honest. Many are not even aware that they have been brainwashed by media mainly controlled by men to pit women against women, because let's face it, using women to criticise women is the best way to hold women down the sneaky way, whilst uplifting men blindly.

If we flipped it around, FL chasing down ML to kill him off at every turn, I am convinced a portion of forum users will be out in force to slam her. He has cold ambition whilst she is pure evil, annoying and basic.

Issue with your comment is you are not watching a drama independently but admitting your personal biases that doesn' t allow you to open your mind to the drama as a whole. Has it crossed your mind that she's grown cynical due to the years of knock backs? Being jealous or even resentful of other actors' fame based on (in her mind) fandom rather than acting recognition is not henuous in anyway. I think some have grown so influenced by the whiter than white persona of leads, they are starting to expect all leads need to start and think this way. They don't always.

Welcome to MDL comments section. They talk about balance. The irony.

You will be talking to a brick wall. Some cannot admit it, they bring their biases to dramas. Nothing special. The hormones are doing the talking. FLs are often invisible and dare I say, an irritant. But, they'll never admit it.

This user regularly uses the words like stupid, fatso and give some characters derogatory "nicknames" regularly no doubt because she thinks it's witty. She doesn't give her comments a second thought. Some people are just like that. Unaware of their approach to making offensive comments.

It's only 1/4 of the way in so a bit early to know or judge. I am so pleased with original scripts. It usually cuts all the book fans and gate-keepers from trying to hate and judge too easily. Seasoned watchers are just left saying "getting the job done properly" as if the script is for them to dictate how the format should go.

Idol style dramas tends to need growth and usually it's from one extreme to another. No doubt the FL will have her realisation. What is so interesting is, a portion of viewers ignore the fact that ML has tried to kill her on numerous occasions and yet her need to get him back is not OK. You do wonder, if the ML actor had been played by an unknown or an older and uglier actor, would we see these same types of unbalanced comments.

Common comments on those that like to judge women more harshly than men characters. It's clearly someone that is more biased towards men. You need to see Filter drama comments. Even worse.

It happens all the time like clock-work.

I think some viewers are getting more righteous than the lead characters of yesteryear. Reality is, most aren't anything near what they claim to be. Also, their opinions come as an audience with information handed on the plate from the director so they end up screaming at their monitors on who's good or who's bad. They do not separate that to an individual's character within the plot.

In Filter, there was a similar situation where a core portion could not separate their own morals to the FL's morals based on her background and upbringing. It clouds their judgment of the FL and end up feeling sorry for he ML instead.

Your opinion from the audiences' point of view. I'm only on episode 5-6 but can already see it's a light parody on the industry and not at all going to be following logic nor show an upright female lead that is righteous and understanding. She plays someone that's beaten down by the industry and has grown cynical already. She thinks she's smarter than she really is. I think that's more realistic than the many FL's that have massive plot armour. FL's can be clueless and unbright.

There seems to be a fashion for the misunderstood ML that keeps getting hurt but at the same time like a moth to a flame. This is also a trope that drama makers use time and time again because it's a ratings winner, and in this drama, it's poking fun of that trope. For me, it's funny to see him injured each time. I'm sure this arc will move onto something else. For me, it's not a drama to be taken too seriously.

Glad to see you made it to the end. Yes, he got them back good and proper. Plus the story is told like folklore so more a cautionary tale about those that do good and those that are corrupt. So in essence there may never have been someone that was so naive in the first place. It's written for the purpose of a core message.

The last time I felt so frustrated watching corruption and bullying on this scale was The Long Season. It can be quite tiring to watch. It was the comedic moments that got me through.

I get your point. Have you watched it all to the end yet? Only then will it sink in with all the points you make.

I get your point and we'll just have to wait and see in the final cut. We're told no romance but in cases like these, to create tension, they tend to make the younger actor idealistic and often pining for the older actor to make it more palatable and less predatory looking.

BTW, age is sometimes ignored and casting is done on visuals. XZ looks quite young and some actresses look more mature. Example in Last Goodbye Mama, ML (Yin Fang) was was 33 years old and Wang Churan at the time was just 21 years old. But both were partners in the drama. Because she looks mature, in Have a Crush on You, she was 24 years old and Peng Guan Ying was 37 years old!

I'm surprised by the score. I absolutely loved The Long River for it's subtle comedy and I'm convinced they must have seen actor Gong Lei's performance there and type-casted him here. After watching this drama, I would say, the comedy here is even better. I guess, adaptations will always have issues for die-hard book fans.

OK, many thanks for getting back on that.