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I had put this off because of the platform it's released on, finally watched the first episode and I'm hooked. Ugh I'm still not convinced I want to pay for GagaOOlala (I tend to just skip their series, because of this unfortunately) but I so want to finish watching this. I love the historical aspects of the series already.

While I don't have much to say about this series, Jesus H. Christ the actors in this are gorgeous. The description doesn't say visual feast but VISUAL FEAST. The stylist deserves a standing ovation, they know what they're doing. Renz and Kurt in particular are just...wow. And Marc (Josh) with his broody self *fans*. When Rez sat on the couch in that grey sweater with his hair pinned back I had literal heart palpitations lol anyway I've embarrassed myself enough.

Honestly, all of them I feel like if they were picked up by the right kind of production company and really given a stand-out project, have serious potential as actors. It's unfortunate the writing and direction in this doesn't really stand up to the potential displayed, at least not from what I've seen. I'll also say, while I'm not super convinced of Bryce's intentions quite yet (the first episodes still have me on the fence about the type of person he is) the chemistry between him and Bart is stellar. I wonder what or if there's a resolution coming considering we only have two episodes left.

I also want to add that Brendalynne is so relatable, and I appreciate that they added her character. I hope she stays strong in her confidence and continues to realize that she doesn't have to be anyone's definition of beautiful but her own. Rejection is a shitty, confusing feeling that leaves you off-kilter and insecure. I liked that they showed her just working through her emotions, and I hope she comes to realize that not being liked by the person you like doesn't mean there's something wrong with you.

Hm. I wonder if they took them down, sorry about that...I haven't checked for them in a long time. On the flip side, sometimes if they take them down it means an official translation is coming? The original translation was from StarHunter so I thought they'd keep it up, but honestly they were horrible so maybe they decided to go with a better more official printed translation. I know some of the novels from other series have done that.

Totally agree!

As far as redeeming qualities to this series...well...there's eye candy? I mean let's be real, the plot makes zero sense. You're seriously supposed to root for a relationship where the love interest is a total creep? Jaime is like a really cheesy 70's porn star whose sole purpose is just to scream 'sex' on the screen for anyone tuning in. I mean for heaven's sake he about made love to that apple in front of Jordan, who I'm pretty positive he's not interested in...or is he? At this point, I think he's capable of coming on to anyone.

I can't help but think they're headed toward some bizarre thruple situation because honestly, what the hell was that dance sequence? Heart was literally sandwiched between the two of them and got zero vibes that maybe there was something out of the ordinary? TLDR; very little plot, weak characters - though I will say Jordan is hilarious - but quite a lot of smutty behavior and sexual tension so I guess it depends what's your cup of tea.

I never expected there was going to be closure on that because there isn't an ending to that in the novel. Book 3 hasn't been written yet. Book 2 ends with that situation open-ended.

True. I will say that there is one couple (Mark and Kit) that's going to get a resolution at the end of this, I don't think any other couple is going to. To me it's been focused on Mark and Kit with other stories kind of revolving in the wings. Which makes sense with how these things usually go *eye roll* they want people to tune into the next season to see what happens.

They already announced there would be three seasons. Now whether that actually happens or not is yet to be seen lol but they did say there would be three seasons with each one focused on one couple (they never detailed who the couples would be though).

I guess I haven't seen Thanu as an asshole lol so I don't really have a comment to add to that. I don't really see how Wayu wanting to be with Thanu makes him a spineless doormat. I would say there would be an argument for him being a doormat if he were to get back together with Parawee at the end of this because he treated him so poorly and disrespectfully in and outside of their relationship, but people forget that both Thanu and Wayu are essentially single at this point.

I'm honestly kind of wondering if people have really never dated before when they get all weird about there being more than one love interest. Thanu has feelings for Wayu but he also has feelings for Phai and he hasn't formalized or made any promises to either. What complicates things is that he was brought into Wayu's life through his ex and his feelings developed against his better judgment. You can't really control who you fall for, so it's put him in a tricky situation. I also think that him wanting to put distance between himself and Wayu was a mature response since he's trying to figure things out, especially with Phai being such a new and surprising addition to his life. I think with Wayu he's trying to figure out if what he's feeling for him is because they've been so close to each other all this time, and both of them have been lonely, or if it's the real deal. And with Phai, he's trying to figure out if there's really something there or not, considering he doesn't know anything about him aside from the strange/intriguing connection they have. My issue with Thanu is he needs to just tell both Wayu and Phai that he's confused if that's what's happening, so they're not left wondering what's going on.

It'll be interesting to see how things play out in the end. I honestly wouldn't mind Wayu just being single, I've liked that they showed him speaking up, realizing that the person you love shouldn't be the one hurting you, and making his own decisions. I think he's within his right to pursue Thanu if he feels something for him, but Thanu also has the right to say "pause, I don't know about this" if he's not feeling it or feeling something deeper for someone else. But that's just my take.

This is pure speculation on my part but I could see in season 2 love triangle/square drama with the resolution being Sandee/Phai ending up together and Wayu/Thanu then once that's been established Parawee coming back with some excuse for why he left and Wayu again being "confused" and season 3 is figuring out once and for all who Wayu ends up with LOL Bas is really the one they're going to be milking with this. He's technically what you would consider the "star" in the cast for StarHunter, they've been teasing "who will he choose?" from when GenY was even first going through casting. Once they landed on Dun for Thanu they started pairing them together and pushing them hard in promotion material. I just find it interesting that they're the ones who are doing the interviews/promotion for the show, sometimes it's not even Kim and Cop who technically are the main couple hah. In their own country, the better known and more liked pairing is Dun/Bas which translates to Thanu/Wayu. And they were a nonexistent thing before StarHunter started promotional material of them together before the show aired. For example, Thanu/Wayu was trending way before the series started, why wouldn't they start with promoting Dun with Pon if they were the end-game couple? It's curious that they would do the opposite and whip up all this support for a "ghost ship". It's all very strange. And truly this is all just speculation that can be taken with a grain of salt lol I just find the whole series of events very bizarre knowing how much hinges on the popularity of the IRL ships. So much is tied to that, it's why so many pairings end up in new projects together.

I know there's translations on Wattpad but they're not very good.

It could definitely still happen for sure, it'll be interesting. I think there's people convinced on both sides that could be disappointed haha I wouldn't expect the expected that's for sure.

Based on what we know both from within and outside the show I think they'll either make an "alternate ending" where fans can choose whichever ending they prefer with Wayu/Thanu/Phai triangle OR (and I think this is the more likely scenario) we're going to end season 1 with the open ended triangle. A vote will happen (like has been hinted at by StarHunter) to decide the final couple and season 2 will play out the most popular choice. Considering that Wayu and Thanu are the most popular of the two pairings I have a feeling that's the pairing that will win. There are a couple of reasons why I think this is likely to happen.

1. Starhunter has promoted and pushed Dun and Bas the exact same, or even more some might argue, than even KimCop who are the main pairing for this series. They do all interviews together, are around each other almost 24/7 (i'm not even kidding about that hah), and have saturated each others social media. I find it really interesting that Pon (who plays Phai) is no where to be seen in promotional material or even in interviews. I think if they wanted it to be a more "unknown" outcome they would have marketed the three of them together, but that's just from what I've seen.
2. The writer of the novels has stated that the remaining book won't be hers alone, and book 3 won't be released until after season 2 airs (book 2 also ends with what we've gotten up to this point, there is no resolution for the love triangle).
3. Dun and Bas have said some really interesting things about "destiny" in their interviews, and have both said they want to be paired together which I think is interesting. If nothing else it's pushed fans to want to make that happen because they've said that's what they want.
4. In information released by StarHunter it shows that any of the three likely pairings could be destiny, i.e. Thanu > Wayu or Thanu >Phai or Phai > Sandee. And in the books we know that Sandee does have secret feelings for Phai that he's kept to himself this whole time (it's why he asks Phai if he believes in soulmates and destiny). They have also made it clear that "soulmates" and "destiny" aren't necessarily the same thing and don't always equal each other. Basically you can make your own destiny or any event can change the course of your destiny.

To be honest I've liked the ambiguity so far. I think it's made watching kind of fun because you don't really know what the outcome is going to be, when usually it's pretty obvious in BL, either because you've read the novel or because they've made it very clear in the show and promotional material. While they've made it clear which pairing they prefer in the promotional material, they haven't made it clear on the show itself which is really bizarre haha. Also maybe I'm ok with it because I honestly wouldn't mind either one to work out. I like both of them pretty equally, so it's just entertaining for me. It's also pretty funny to see people fight about it on social media platforms and on here if I'm honest lol.

I would say people that are confused as to why Thanu and Wayu are still such a huge thing should probably catch up on what's been happening outside the show. Otherwise, just enjoy the plot-twists but definitely don't be married to any outcome because it could go either way! There's definitely a lot more to come, especially because they haven't introduced Sandee, who is Phai's best friend, into the mix and he's definitely a big part of the story. Also as an FYI they announced very early on that there will be another season coming.

This is going to be controversial but I'm calling it...

I 100% agree with what you said. I've been warning people not to be married to any scenario because it could go any way lol I think people who don't know what's been happening outside the show are likely confused why people are still rooting so hard for Thanu and Wayu lol. The way StarHunter have been pushing them, how they're being marketed, what they've said, it all adds up to there being a different ending to what people are expecting to happen right now. And tbh why would they go with what's expected? That wouldn't be very interest haha. I might be in the minority but I like the tension for us as viewers right now, it's kind of been fun to watch a show where we honestly have no idea who could end up together. Usually it's more clear so you kind of know who to expect but this time we really have no idea.

I don't think it's that tbh I think what's happening is that Dun and Bas are being marketed together, like they're being pushed HARD by StarHunter. So fans of SBFive and Bas who follow all the stuff outside the show (there are a lot) and who make up a good majority of those who watch the show (outside of mydramalist) have been cemented into that ship. I mean for heaven's sake they had a sleepover together that was an hour-long lol. Plus StarHunter has hinted that the final couple between the Thanu/Wayu/Phai couple is going to come down to a vote. So they've pretty much set it up to be a competition between the two. It also doesn't help that Dun and Bas are shown together 24/7, they're all over each other's social media and Pon who plays Phai is non-existent. Like in interviews it's always Dun and Bas who do them together. It's all very bizarre considering how the storyline is going. I'm not sure why they cast the series the way they did if they were always planning on marketing Dun and Bas together for this series, unless the plan is that they end up together lol. But it stands to reason that people outside of the show are getting a very different picture of what's going to happen. I'm honestly curious to see how it plays out because I can't imagine they're doing this for nothing lol I'm going to reserve my judgment on who ends up together once the series ends hah. But definitely, the producers of the series have pushed Dun and Bas in the marketing so hard that it's brought out the fanship wars where people don't want to see a different pairing for them now. Personally, I'm good either way, I think both couples have their merits and would be interesting. I would just advise people not to be married to either scenario as it could literally go either way, especially since the last book hasn't even been written yet.

They're not really related, some of the characters are the same but you don't need that backstory to understand this as it's a completely different story. Like an alternate universe. To be honest it might be more confusing if you do watch 2Moons and try to plug in things to this series because nothing from 2Moons really applies here.

At this point, I just have to laugh. I'm amazed that I just witnessed two of the most popular series in the BL genre go up in flames in less than a year due to their own creator. Cheers Mame. Just wow. *slow claps*

Honestly, all it would have taken was a little bit of sincerity and care. It's really insulting IMO how some of these writers, producers, directors, whoever feel like fans are too dumb to care or notice that they're being taken advantage of. Or that for whatever reason they don't deserve quality work. Even worse, is this ugly expectation that BL stories, which depict gay/bi characters, don't deserve depth or thought. I'm glad there are some who are changing and challenging those ideas, but it just makes something like this all the more disappointing knowing the potential of what could have been if the people behind it had actually cared about more than just their paycheck.

Mm, yea they're complicated, but Time and Tae are an established couple from the beginning, Tem comes after.

Porsche and Kinn
Porsché and Kim
Time and Tae (Kinn's best friends)
Vegas (the son of the minor family/clan) and Pete (Tankhun's bodyguard)
I know the oldest brother Tankhun also has a pairing but I'm not sure who it is.

Holy shit. The trailer was insane. I can't wait for this to start. The action and storyline in this alone looks like it'll be worth the time. Can I also comment on how absolutely stunning Jeff and Apo are depicted? Whew. Ngl I'm loving that we're getting some more hardcore, action-packed BL, the mafia setting is one of my favorite in fiction lol

I feel like I have to read the novel now, does anyone know if it's been translated?