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? I literally can't make sense of half of what you said. I don't think it's too much to ask for people to be culturally aware if you're going to consume media from different cultures but ok, apparently it is.

I don't know if you just didn't read through my comments at all - what I wrote was apparently quite triggering for you, must be past experience - or if there's just a severe lack of reading comprehension, but what you wrote makes zero contextual sense. I never denied there being kisses in Thai BL or that there is the existence of full-on sex scenes either. Neither of those things has any relevance to my asking OP to be understanding of the fact that there is cultural relevance to the "sniff kiss" that makes it offensive (in my opinion) for someone to simply demand it stop being used because they happen not to like it? It's literally a part of their culture. But I guess be outraged over that if it makes you feel better, you do you.

Well, that's what makes it complicated. This is a person with Dissociative Identity Disorder, people with this disorder can still lead normal lives and do still retain their true adult selves through one of their identities, even when others can be small children or take on child-like characteristics. It's a complex situation. What's interesting to me is that Noah is described as the personality he "developed" when he seems to spend the most time as Noah and seems to revert to become YS.

I guess I'm just not sure what you're saying, should people who have DID not be in relationships? Should they not find partners to love and care for them? This disorder doesn't have a cure and can last a person's entire life...it just seems if someone is willing to love and take care of a person with DID, even understanding the difficulties they will face, that's not a negative thing? Especially not when it comes to media portraying DID as similar to psychosis. You're right that therapy will help and is a journey to some semblance of a normal life even if it's not a solution. A person with DID might not ever absorb all or any of their alters. I appreciate that there was what I think was an attempt to portray that by WZ taking YS/Noal to a professional for help. I think he is trying to help him because he cares, not just ignoring the issues he has.

He also isn't hiding his relationship with him even knowing what he's like. I definitely think this show isn't anywhere close to realistic hah, but I do appreciate them trying to show that someone with DID is just a person at the end of the day, who has the same needs and wants as any other. YS is going to be childish because he is immature, but Noah isn't. Though they've given us clues that YS is much more cognizant than he lets on. For example in the shower scene, it shows him deliberating and then he deliberately appears naked in front of WZ in the kitchen. That wasn't on accident by any means. He also understood what it meant when WZ shook him off on the street. They haven't indicated what exactly his mental age is when he's YS though I would imagine that YS developed other coping mechanisms, like his immaturity, as a protective measure just as much as Noah is due to his traumatic past, I think the real YS/Noal might likely even be someone else or a mixture of the two that we haven't seen yet. Just my thoughts on things anyway, it's definitely a complex storyline with a lot of grey areas.

I'm not so sure, in my opinion, his acting is a little too one-note for me. He just really doesn't portray emotion well, he overacts which is a typical problem when acting doesn't come naturally to someone. I'm not saying he couldn't improve, I just don't think he'll ever be the right sort of actor for complex characters. I could very well be wrong though. When I say there's no nuance I meant that he can't balance the highs and lows in scenes. And technically this is his second major acting role, and he's been in quite a few other projects as well (I also watched him in Close Friend) and I haven't seen much if any improvement. I personally just don't think he suits a main character role, but that's just me.

That's actually surprising to me about Saint hah I actually knew instantly he was an actor to watch because of his portrayal of Pete in LBC. Particularly after I realized that nothing about the way he portrayed the character was him in real life. I'd read the book so was very aware of how much he internalized who Pete was as a person. He's improved greatly from then, but you could already tell from that role he had so much potential.

Well, Mame strikes again, are we shocked? No. Literally, the only reason I'm watching this is because a friend grabbed me with Leon and Pob's scenes early on and I was hooked on their couple. I can safely say they're the couple to watch this series. Goes to show you that when she's not intent on throwing every problematic plot and ploy into a script Mame can actually pull together a healthy, loving dynamic in a really heartwarming way. She should just steer clear from her "damaged" characters and relationships in general, that's where it always goes so unbelievably wrong.

Fiat was literally the worst character in TT2, he was a spoiled, petulant brat we've learned his back story at least, so there is that, but tbf not much has changed. Though I may have enjoyed the character more then and in this series if there was more nuance. Perhaps if the actor was better at carrying emotion. I think he's trying his best, but he doesn't have the range to portray emotions well. His crying scenes are painful to watch and not in an "I feel empathy for this character" way.

They're in a boy group together (along with Bas) haha they've been friends for years.

Episode 9 was so intense emotionally, they did such a good job. I was devastated the whole time.

I love these two so much, KimCop all the way. They've been friends for so long they have the best dynamic.

As much as people have issues with this series and as imperfect as it was, I'm ready to take it for what it is and enjoy it. It honestly had some really good moments, I loved MarkKit's story and relationship. I'm all for more KimCop coming back as MarkKit and I honestly did become invested in seeing the endings to a lot of these couples and characters lol. Wayu/Thanu were endgame for me from the beginning so I'm ready to see how that plays out. Also, I'm really hoping we get more Sab, and that something ends up sparking between him and Padbok. Also, Jack and Phai finding their own happy endings would be nice too!

Mainly because people went in already attached to that pair haha DunBas were/are extremely popular in Thailand and they were being marketed together WAY before the series started. They constantly hang out together, did lives together, were all over each other's social media, and participated in all the marketing for the show as a couple so of course, everyone fell in love with the idea of them being a pairing no matter what. It was pretty strategic, StarHunter wanted this pairing to be endgame. That's why I was so surprised to see people thinking Wayu and Phai ever had a chance of being together. A huge clue to that was in the marketing for the show, they were never even in the same room together haha and actually, I don't think Pon even participated in any of the marketing for it (like the usual fan meets and things).

I think it they purposefully tried to make it vague, as an artistic choice, but yeah I get it can be hard to catch things sometimes. There's a lot of subtle nuances in this, which I actually prefer as a viewer, but some people might not really like hah.

It's how the novel was written. The last book hadn't been written by the time they bought the rights to produce the drama. The production company made a deal with the author if they could do a kind of "choose your own adventure" with the ending. They wanted fans to be able to vote for their favorite couple and choose the ending for Wayu (Bas). In the novel Thanu genuinely has strong feelings for both, and at the end of book 2 he hadn't chosen who he wanted to be with. In the book he's in love with Wayu, but he feels guilty because he never was supposed to fall in love with him only watch over him for Pha. For Phai he's drawn to him because of the visions but his heart isn't in it, which is why at the end of the last season we see him decide he wants to make his own destiny and finally chooses Yu.

Because this story was made by a different author as an alternative universe to 2Moons. What people don't understand is that these stories are actually a separate series of books called Gen Y written by Liu Lijun. They are not the same story and the only way they are connected is that the characters Mark (Ming), Kij (Kit), Wayu (Wayo), and Pha (Phana) are based on the 2moons characters, the storyline isn't supposed to mirror 2Moons or be a continuation of 2Moons, it's a new story. The author did this on purpose BECAUSE she didn't like aspects of 2Moons, specifically Wayu and Pha's storyline. While some of the main characters are the same or similar (Mark, Kij, and Wayu) the majority of the characters are new and original. If you read the novels Phai actually doesn't even make an appearance, he's just mentioned, which is why he doesn't show up in the live-action. This happens quite often in fanfiction when fans of stories or media don't like the direction a storyline is taking, so they write their own. The producers chose this specific storyline because of the drama with the author of 2Moons. Fans wanted to see 2Moons2 reprised with the original cast and that was never going to happen, so they found an alternative.

You're right. I went with the most common usage in an effort to make what I was saying more easily understood, and I shouldn't have, google is readily available for anyone who doesn't have an immediate reference to specific terminology. I've edited my comment to be both the most appropriate term (that I know of) and understandable, thank you for pointing that out.

I'm not kidding when I say I cry every episode, the emotions in this are heavy. Yoon Oh's relationship with his mom is just so...ugh...tragic.

I'm pretty sure Yoon Oh imagined the kiss, because it looked like a dream sequence. When he started singing Peach wasn't next to him but in front cheering him on and the theater was dark. They switched to clearly a bright theater with a stage, Peach beside him, and other people applauding. Yoon Oh was imagining what he wished that moment to be like for them. The kiss basically never actually happened between them which explains why there was no mention of it and things just jumped back to reality.

I mean your comment was incredibly disrespectful and derogatory. You called their form of showing affection "shit" and said they should "drop it", you also said they should do it "properly" like there is only one way to do something or to show love and affection. I'm telling you that "I' personally found your comment offensive and problematic so you can take that however you like, it's my personal opinion after all. If you're aware of "PDAs and culture" as you said than your comment makes absolutely no sense, and in fact makes what you said worse, as you deliberately ignored the fact that this is a part of their culture and still want them to stop doing it and change to mirror your own cultural standards. It doesn't matter what your background is or what you see as a sniff-kiss from your own culture, that's very ethnocentric.

Please, if you're going to consume media from different cultures, try to learn about their culture and the origins of certain actions, idioms, etc. The sniff kiss or hom kaem is the most common and accepted form of showing affection and love, it literally means breathing in the perfect and unique scent of the one you love. A lot of Asian cultures take more delicate and sweet forms of PDA over overt ones like direct kisses. In fact, Thai people rarely kiss in public, usually that gesture is so intimate it's reserved for private spaces like the bedroom, but even then the sniff-kiss is seen as something incredibly sweet for couples to do in any context (for example Thai couples actually sniff-kiss as their "wedding kiss" rather than kiss at the end of the ceremony like Western couples do). Due to morality issues kissing actually wasn't commonly even seen on screen until after the 1990s. Today, even in more progressive and touristy places like Bangkok public displays of affection are not accepted, in some parts of Thailand even holding hands is taboo. The reason for this is due to the belief that the body is a sacred, the head in particular is the most sacred as that is where the soul lies in Thai culture and therefore you should not infringe upon that space. It doesn't matter if you "hate" it (which is odd btw) it's an important part of Thai culture that should be respected by people outside of it. A lot of different cultures have things like this, for example the Inuit Kunik (rubbing noses). You might think kissing is a common form of expressing love but actually it isn't, almost half of all the world's cultures either don't kiss or never do so outside the bedroom.

I was thinking the same about Aue! I thought it was refreshing to see that he doesn't seem to be the typical lead tropes: asshole, cold, reserved, stoic, arrogant lol the list goes on. I hope they continue with that as I think it would be a nice switch up from the usual.

I'm loving this already, the food porn is everything and I'm all for a good slow burn. There have been too many sped-through series lately. Suffice to say, I need to be well-fed before watching this, or I'm going to sit there drooling the whole time haha. I'm excited to see the development happen between the two leads, and I'm already liking some of the secondary characters that I hope they develop more as the series progresses.