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This was....the craziest show. I don't even know what to say tbh lol I think my only question is how to even have another season after that ending? Like, what?

Ok. So Pha's an asshole...like for real lol. This last episode clarified so much for me. I guess I'm the only one (but also I've never really believed that Phai and Thanu were endgame, so I guess it makes sense to me since I never really considered that a viable option). In this episode, we learn that in reality Wayu and Thanu have always been meant to be together, and Wayu's first love is actually Thanu but Pha got in the middle. I mean he had to have lied to him right? I can't imagine Wayu didn't mention the big "I fell for you when you saved me". line..so what exactly did he respond to that? Um oh yeah...right, I sure did do that! I think he knew he wasn't who Yu was actually interested in but lied because he wanted him for himself. I'm honestly loving that this author is kind of making him a villain lol it also explains his creepy non-existence, he should have never been in Wayu's life in the first place! It's also interesting to me that while Phai seems to have a connection to Thanu - with his sensing something bad would happen to him - it appears that Thanu has that connection with Wayu, since he rubbed his chest and felt the same thing before he fell.

I think this ties into what the show has been leading up to this whole time. "Destiny" isn't always what you think it might be, and essentially you're in control of your own destiny. I've always thought it was interesting how much it was highlighted throughout the whole show Phai and Thanu missing each other. While Thanu was confused, from my perspective he made the decision to listen to what his heart was telling him rather than what his head was telling him, after finding out that there's supposedly a "set" path for him. I think it's interesting that people are so supportive of his "destined" lover when he's spent zero time with him. Half the show he's been completely missing even meeting him, and suddenly he does and he's supposed to just drop everything to be in a relationship with him? Whereas with Wayu he's actually spent significant time with him and has slowly been falling in love with him this whole time. He confessed to Wayu right before he met Phai, even though he was struggling morally with doing so because he promised his "friend" he'd take care of him (not date him lol) so clearly he was already in deep where his feelings were concerned. He started avoided Wayu because he was worried the visions would mean he would hurt him at some point, but then he realized he could choose what he wanted for his life and that happened to be Wayu. The visions he had with Phai confused him, but he's still determined to follow through with what he feels for Wayu, which now we know was their "intended" story if Pha had never gotten in the way.

Now I'm wondering if Thanu's path IS inevitable, even though I don't think the ending will change. Maybe somehow the visions do play out the way he's seen them...like if Pha comes back and breaks him and Wayu up. I could see it being a situation where he ends up getting together with Phai as a rebound and we end up with the issues we saw in the visions (where he's choosing between Phai and someone else, likely Wayu). OR were the visions a possible alternate timeline of events that could have happened if Pha never left? Like what could have happened if he and/or Pha had made different choices...because if you think about it, Wayu and Thanu were always going to meet since Thanu was coming back to school the year Pha left. I still think it could go either way (if we got three seasons planned there's for sure more on the horizon hah), even if you think about Thanu's meaning of love " love is the person who shows you its meaning", is it Phai because through the sacrifice of his feelings for Thanu's happiness does it show him what love is? Or is it Wayu who's shown him that love doesn't come through some pre-destined arrangement but rather through all the moments and time you spend with someone? I don't know as crazy and messy as this storyline is I'm still intrigued LOL it's bizarre but in a way that's at least keeping my attention, likely because as viewers we have no idea what's going to happen next. I like that uncertainty, I feel like too often in BL we already know the ending because we've seen it 50x before. I still wouldn't be too married to either pairing ending up together, it's a toss-up haha though I will say all signs are kind of pointing to Wayu/Thanu if you consider all the outside factors.

Also (ok this is way too long but meh) I'm still in love with Mark and Kit, I kind of like that they haven't added additional drama for them just to add drama. They're just living their best couple life. I would rather they leave them alone and add drama to the side couples, than have them be the main focus and we end up with something like Tharn/Type where it's one constant mess of a failed relationship trying to pass as something sweet and loving. I hope they also keep that up in the next season; continue on playing with the other characters now that Mark/Kit are together lol then maybe I'll actually believe a marriage scene should play out at the end of this. I'm not holding my breath but it could happen, they could just give us a healthy couple life for once (please).

Sab is still probably one of my favorite characters on here, I'm bummed we don't get to see him more and I'm hoping he plays a bigger role in the next season. I'm also still holding on to the smidge of hope that Koh and Jack are going to be something at some point haha. I mean I can't be the only one thinking that's where they're headed even now, right?

Best episode yet! I'm hooked. I kind of wished I had binged it after it was over because waiting a whole week is torture.

I can't believe they're trying to end this mess with a wedding, are they kidding?

I'll also point out again recycled material, Fiat is basically Llong pt 2 and so is the scene dealing with him. The amount of laziness in the writing and direction is unbelievable, did they think people weren't going to notice the blatantly repeated plot devices? I also can't be the only one that thinks both Fiat and Leo's characters make absolutely zero sense. What was even that reasoning for why they were both behaving the way they were? And yay! Let's celebrate! For all his bad and childish behavior Fiat gets...a boyfriend! What a joke.

So...you're saying that they're acting like a couple on the brink of divorce and who should get divorced...got it. I agree they shouldn't be together, their lack of communication is appalling.

I think you can be supportive and honest, there's nothing wrong with giving criticism if it's merited, and of course everyone is going to have different opinions. If you give constructive criticism there's a potential series could improve, and that's always a good thing. I don't see how anything this person said wasn't supportive, but I would also ask why they have to be supportive? There's nothing saying you have to support every BL that comes out just because it has a semi-decent plot and some good acting. This is an open forum where anyone can share what they're thinking about what they're watching. You should praise something if you feel it deserves and merits that praise, not just because it's a series with a BL tag that's put a little bit of thought into what they're doing. There's a lot that they could have done differently with the budget they had but they didn't, and hopefully next time they continue to improve and will come out with something even better. You, of course, can not agree with what this person is saying but maybe it's better just to not read their comments rather than responding to them aggressively and asking them not to post? I'm not trying to start anything, I just wanted OP to know that I appreciated their comments and do read them.

I just wanted to say that I always read and appreciate your comments when I see them :) I enjoy your honest opinions.

That is unfortunate! Well hopefully we get one that's easy for international fans to access.

I'm really loving this a lot right now. I had zero expectations going into it. I love being pleasantly surprised.

I had put this off because of the platform it's released on, finally watched the first episode and I'm hooked. Ugh I'm still not convinced I want to pay for GagaOOlala (I tend to just skip their series, because of this unfortunately) but I so want to finish watching this. I love the historical aspects of the series already.

While I don't have much to say about this series, Jesus H. Christ the actors in this are gorgeous. The description doesn't say visual feast but VISUAL FEAST. The stylist deserves a standing ovation, they know what they're doing. Renz and Kurt in particular are just...wow. And Marc (Josh) with his broody self *fans*. When Rez sat on the couch in that grey sweater with his hair pinned back I had literal heart palpitations lol anyway I've embarrassed myself enough.

Honestly, all of them I feel like if they were picked up by the right kind of production company and really given a stand-out project, have serious potential as actors. It's unfortunate the writing and direction in this doesn't really stand up to the potential displayed, at least not from what I've seen. I'll also say, while I'm not super convinced of Bryce's intentions quite yet (the first episodes still have me on the fence about the type of person he is) the chemistry between him and Bart is stellar. I wonder what or if there's a resolution coming considering we only have two episodes left.

I also want to add that Brendalynne is so relatable, and I appreciate that they added her character. I hope she stays strong in her confidence and continues to realize that she doesn't have to be anyone's definition of beautiful but her own. Rejection is a shitty, confusing feeling that leaves you off-kilter and insecure. I liked that they showed her just working through her emotions, and I hope she comes to realize that not being liked by the person you like doesn't mean there's something wrong with you.

Hm. I wonder if they took them down, sorry about that...I haven't checked for them in a long time. On the flip side, sometimes if they take them down it means an official translation is coming? The original translation was from StarHunter so I thought they'd keep it up, but honestly they were horrible so maybe they decided to go with a better more official printed translation. I know some of the novels from other series have done that.

Totally agree!

As far as redeeming qualities to this series...well...there's eye candy? I mean let's be real, the plot makes zero sense. You're seriously supposed to root for a relationship where the love interest is a total creep? Jaime is like a really cheesy 70's porn star whose sole purpose is just to scream 'sex' on the screen for anyone tuning in. I mean for heaven's sake he about made love to that apple in front of Jordan, who I'm pretty positive he's not interested in...or is he? At this point, I think he's capable of coming on to anyone.

I can't help but think they're headed toward some bizarre thruple situation because honestly, what the hell was that dance sequence? Heart was literally sandwiched between the two of them and got zero vibes that maybe there was something out of the ordinary? TLDR; very little plot, weak characters - though I will say Jordan is hilarious - but quite a lot of smutty behavior and sexual tension so I guess it depends what's your cup of tea.

I never expected there was going to be closure on that because there isn't an ending to that in the novel. Book 3 hasn't been written yet. Book 2 ends with that situation open-ended.

True. I will say that there is one couple (Mark and Kit) that's going to get a resolution at the end of this, I don't think any other couple is going to. To me it's been focused on Mark and Kit with other stories kind of revolving in the wings. Which makes sense with how these things usually go *eye roll* they want people to tune into the next season to see what happens.

They already announced there would be three seasons. Now whether that actually happens or not is yet to be seen lol but they did say there would be three seasons with each one focused on one couple (they never detailed who the couples would be though).

I guess I haven't seen Thanu as an asshole lol so I don't really have a comment to add to that. I don't really see how Wayu wanting to be with Thanu makes him a spineless doormat. I would say there would be an argument for him being a doormat if he were to get back together with Parawee at the end of this because he treated him so poorly and disrespectfully in and outside of their relationship, but people forget that both Thanu and Wayu are essentially single at this point.

I'm honestly kind of wondering if people have really never dated before when they get all weird about there being more than one love interest. Thanu has feelings for Wayu but he also has feelings for Phai and he hasn't formalized or made any promises to either. What complicates things is that he was brought into Wayu's life through his ex and his feelings developed against his better judgment. You can't really control who you fall for, so it's put him in a tricky situation. I also think that him wanting to put distance between himself and Wayu was a mature response since he's trying to figure things out, especially with Phai being such a new and surprising addition to his life. I think with Wayu he's trying to figure out if what he's feeling for him is because they've been so close to each other all this time, and both of them have been lonely, or if it's the real deal. And with Phai, he's trying to figure out if there's really something there or not, considering he doesn't know anything about him aside from the strange/intriguing connection they have. My issue with Thanu is he needs to just tell both Wayu and Phai that he's confused if that's what's happening, so they're not left wondering what's going on.

It'll be interesting to see how things play out in the end. I honestly wouldn't mind Wayu just being single, I've liked that they showed him speaking up, realizing that the person you love shouldn't be the one hurting you, and making his own decisions. I think he's within his right to pursue Thanu if he feels something for him, but Thanu also has the right to say "pause, I don't know about this" if he's not feeling it or feeling something deeper for someone else. But that's just my take.

This is pure speculation on my part but I could see in season 2 love triangle/square drama with the resolution being Sandee/Phai ending up together and Wayu/Thanu then once that's been established Parawee coming back with some excuse for why he left and Wayu again being "confused" and season 3 is figuring out once and for all who Wayu ends up with LOL Bas is really the one they're going to be milking with this. He's technically what you would consider the "star" in the cast for StarHunter, they've been teasing "who will he choose?" from when GenY was even first going through casting. Once they landed on Dun for Thanu they started pairing them together and pushing them hard in promotion material. I just find it interesting that they're the ones who are doing the interviews/promotion for the show, sometimes it's not even Kim and Cop who technically are the main couple hah. In their own country, the better known and more liked pairing is Dun/Bas which translates to Thanu/Wayu. And they were a nonexistent thing before StarHunter started promotional material of them together before the show aired. For example, Thanu/Wayu was trending way before the series started, why wouldn't they start with promoting Dun with Pon if they were the end-game couple? It's curious that they would do the opposite and whip up all this support for a "ghost ship". It's all very strange. And truly this is all just speculation that can be taken with a grain of salt lol I just find the whole series of events very bizarre knowing how much hinges on the popularity of the IRL ships. So much is tied to that, it's why so many pairings end up in new projects together.

I know there's translations on Wattpad but they're not very good.

It could definitely still happen for sure, it'll be interesting. I think there's people convinced on both sides that could be disappointed haha I wouldn't expect the expected that's for sure.