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He definitely brings out strong emotions for most people - some love him, some can't stand him. It's a complex mix of both for me I guess lol

That's what I love about his story, lots to discuss and there can be different viewpoints. I don't think anyone is condoning her wrong actions, but the feelings of sadness and even empathy for her character are definitely meant to be evoked. It just probably works more for some people than others. It's written into the original novel, and I think much more apparent when it's seen on screen.

I'm pretty sure in one of the trailers Jing is fighting with Hou, so I think to some extent, this passage will be adapted.

In the novel, FFYY does end up killing Hou with a bow and arrow. I won't spoil too much unless you want to know.

Ep 7 is the beginning of the clearing of the air so to speak. 6-9 are some of my favorites so far.

Hmm...I'll check back with you after the end of the drama. ;)

She and Ru Shuo have great chemistry on screen lol

Dude has been asking for it for a long time lol

You are right about express for ep 10. I'd say ep 9 pretty much concludes that arc, so don't have to wait for 10.

I think Jing said it best somewhere in the novel, I can't remember exactly when. He tells FFYY that she didn't do anything wrong in falling for Hou, but she did sin greatly in killing Hou's wife. I think that conversation sums up a lot regarding her character. She is pitiable in the sense of a woman suffering more for her wrong deeds versus a man committing similar crimes, but I agree, she did bad and should answer for her deeds, which she more than does in my opinion. Hou, on the other hand...utter trash. Dude is seriously messed up in his head. He's so busy planning mind games with himself because he cannot break out of his childhood trauma inflicted by his so-called mother. But that's another conversation. In today's terms, he really needed therapy early and often my goodness.

I don't have sympathy for FFYY because sympathy would imply I've had a similar experience, which I don't. I can't really say I have empathy for her either because I agree with you in the sense that she committed great evil in attempting to and being complicit to murders. I'd like to think that I wouldn't let some guy lead me to live a life of crime. But what I do feel is tremendous pathos for her especially in that scene when she is by herself in the dark with her thoughts before Jing comes in the room. Somehow, in the novel, that really didn't come through for me, but through the actress' performance, I feel much more sadness in seeing all these Qingqiu scenes brought to life.

Ep 9-10, that whole arc is resolved by then!

Yes, it's alluded to in S1 that Jing was much more lively back in the day before Hou's torture of him.

You're right, the game with Jing/Grandpa/XY is probably better as a parallel with the scene in S1 as far as playing Go. I guess it's more of the whole sequence of the 3 of them (Jing, XY and CX) together that reminds me of them together in Qingshui.

I can't bring myself to watch anything else LOL. I'm just rewatching the episodes like an obsessed idiot.

Yeah, the only other time I remember that song playing (but with I think different lyrics?) was when YSQ was introduced in S1.

Even Jing chuckled after he said that. I love Lirong Chang in this, the actor really has great comedic timing - I don't remember Jing's friend in the novel being this funny, if at all.

There have been some great visual parallels between S2 and S1. Some have already noted the scene between FFB and XY on the bridge with the lanterns and the boats going by underneath (compared to the scene in S1 when XL and WXL are in the boat looking up at the bridge). Another is when XY and TSJ are looking at each other and time seems to stop for them, but everyone else is bustling about (also seen in S1 at CX's first wedding). Another one, more subtle, is the chess game with CX, WXL and YSQ in S1 vs the 3 of them eating grilled meat at the restaurant in S2. This last one is interesting, showing how so much as changed since those days at Qingshui Town.

Here's a teaser, or more like an early look at the drama, probably won't be out until next year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTOHi5YI94Q

They both bring a little bit of lightness and comedy that is needed to somewhat balance out all the pain, suffering and spitting blood going on lol

Tushan Jing's friendship with Lirong Chang is the unexpected delight I didn't knew I needed from S2.