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Why in the WORLD is he not reporting these horrible criminal bullies?

Ah - okay, yes, THAT I agree with. But that poor girl :(

Excuse me, the child that killed the byotch (you know, basically out of self-defense) was NOT a horrible person. So no, it is NOT okay at all. The girl that was forcing the 'hesitant' girl to kill was the real problem in this - if she'd NOT insisted on going along w/that kidnapper, neither of the others would have either. I think you really got the wrong end of the argument here. That poor sick girl was the one who ended up being forced to defend herself against that other girl who was planning on killing her.

There are some American crime shows with female leads (Castle & Bones for instance) but the average crime show, even w/that woman lead, has more men than women, even now (although it's better than in, say, 1990). So no, I'm not wrong.
I could write an essay on why and how women have been marginalized, and how hard it is to correct that, but this is not the place. YOUR answer, denying that reality, does indeed show one reason it is so difficult to make any real changes.

Still have no idea why people keep saying that. I like Uee myself. And JJ. The character's behavior is understandable, just as Bong Pil's is. As for finding out about the pharmacist, no, we've been seeing iffy stuff about him in almost every episode. It started out w/seeing him calling another girl & progressed to what's going on now. But every single time jump, Bong Pil has run into him and COMMENTED on it in fact. It did seem at first he overreacted - ok, he did because he certainly didn't have any real info against the guy at first. He's not overreacting now, however.

Well, I'm sorry you aren't enjoying this :( I do find it fun & interesting.

Your point about Pil is accurate - but it actually is a brilliant way to tell this story. If the writers are failing at all, it's with some logical plot holes, but there really aren't that many.

~sigh~ Lots of morons on the planet then. However will you cope...

The pharmacist is not the same guy that saved her from the fire. Bong Pil SAW the pharmacist w/that other girl during that trip to the past. At first, in fact, the pharmacist just looked like a two-timer who for some reason wanted to marry Soo Jin but keep his other girl as a side-piece. Then he started looking possessive & obsessed, & now just full-blown psycho. But that's not inconsistent over ALL the different time-traveling experiences, anymore than the revelations about the other characters.

You are actually projecting what MALES have been doing for the entire history of entertainment, rather than describing what actually happens in KDramas. I wrote several posts about why I like them, why they are inclusive of everybody (including both male AND female hotties).
This discussion might be more fruitful if you bothered to read & discuss what I'm saying and what it was that so upset me with your original post. But you are refusing to do so while trying to project the problem onto me. Whatever.

I am deeply offended by the implications that the addition of women can only be to further romantic plots. I addressed the dark crime type shows as well. YOU insulted women in general in several of your comments (the one about getting male writers because then more women in the shows? OMG so much wrong with that statement). You too will age (one hopes since the alternative is sad) - so insulting my experience and knowledge does indeed simply underline your immaturity.
I expanded on the subject - since it is a big pet peeve of mine.
I actually agree with you on two things - one that just popping in people to make a show (or anything) 'diverse' without corresponding decent writing does nothing to improve anything. Second, that shows about male-dominated areas are going to have more male actors in the main roles for verisimilitude.
I said that in fact. Guess you missed it.

You know, after decades of watching TV, I have to say you are wrong. Totally. The TV industry in America does NOT listen to the audience. That's why the cable companies are losing their shirts, why streaming is a big thing, why BBC dramas were so very popular for years (on PBS - Masterpiece Theatre always was basically BBC serials), why now Asian TV is becoming more and more popular.
As for your silliness about women writers - I mean do you just hate women or something? You must be very young. Women writers, my dear, are the reason that the focus of KDramas is on family, and has a wide range of ages plus a REALISTIC mix of men/women. However, there remains the usual plethora of nubile young beauties in the dramas - that's no different than here in the US. The real difference (besides that realistic mix of ages/sex and that lovely focus on families & all kinds of relationships) is that there are gorgeous young MEN in most of them - totally aimed at the teen/young 20s audience! Now this is something that the US industry used to do - until recently in fact - they did aim a lot of programming at the 18-25 female population. However, in the early 2000s that changed - I remember Bonnie Hammer (then busy ruining the SF channel's programming) said that Dresden Files was being cancelled despite doing rather well because the demographic for that show was women over 30 when the channel's stated target demographic was 20-25 MALES. Which is RIDICULOUS but happened. Not to mention that idiot producer at Nicklelodeon about 4 years ago saying he'd never cast an Asian male as romantic lead cause Asian guys weren't sexy enough. Unbelievable but true. The US TV industry has been digging a hole for itself for a couple decades now. Really.
You are a disgrace, my dear. Acting as if the only reason women should be in a show is when it's romantic should have given us all a clue here.

At this point Pil is NOT doing this because of unrequited love - he's sincerely and for GOOD REASON worried about her safety!!! I do think that if that pharmacist had not been so iffy in all Pil's various excursions back & forth in time, he would have just let her be eventually (again, like My Best Friend's Wedding). But OMG she's married to a sociopathic man w/anger management issues!!! And why in the world is it so hard to understand Pil's love for her? He's known her a very long time, and they've both cared about each other for years, just missing chances. It's completely understandable why he cares about her, and she's hardly that annoying nor is she stupid. She grew up faster than Pil, for sure, & tried to move on. I did think it harsh of her to just ignore him once she found out about the letters - maybe she thought going abroad for a bit would help her figure things out. But as for that psycho - unless you've personal experience w/one of these freaks you have NO idea how seductive they can be, how they can totally make you think they are the most wonderful person you've ever met. Nothing weird about that part of this at all.

I actually like it - I find that each episode reveals more about the various characters & their relationships which is giving Pil a clue.

No, darling. YOUR comment made it sound as if the only reason to have women in a TV show would be for romance. BTW women OUTNUMBER men so there really SHOULD be a LOT more women in TV period. Every hear of the Bechdal test? LOL KDramas manage to pass it most of the time. Western shows, particularly American ones, DON'T. What is it? Have 2 named women in the cast (not even the main characters, just NAMED characters) talk to each other about something OTHER than their love lives! It is ASTONISHING how few films & TV shows actually manage to do that in the West! Go try it. And when doing so, try to understand that women are woefully underrepresented in film, in TV as well as of course in Congress. Really.
As for your babble about crime shows, that's not true. Crime shows are watched pretty evenly by men AND women. But WOMEN just watch more TV period. That's why Korean entertainment companies tend to get women writers and pander more to women - since that's the audience demographic. It has nothing to do with enlightenment about women's rights.
Actually you are correct about crime & police shows being more accurate when there are MORE men than women as prosecutors/officers - but most KDramas show that. However, they also have lots of other characters who aren't the actual police etc - and of those many are women. KDramas are much better than Western shows at depicting families, at having a wide range of ages in the cast as well (BBC & the Scandinavian Noir shows I've watched do this very well too - Japanese shows do NOT).

He did the OSTs for Absolute Boyfriend & was in Fahrenheit w/Aaron Yang & 2 others - but it broke up. The ending of this is done by a group, sounds like, but still the lead vocal could be Jiro. I love his voice (too bad he's dubbed in this but it's not that annoying so far).

Sounds like him but not emphatically so - inquiring minds want to know....

So they left out the biggie in this last murderer - he found his brother fatally wounded from a knife fight right at the moment when he thought both of them had an out from their miserable lives (ie the land the mother left them which could be sold to pay the one's debt & get them both a place to live). THEN he finds out this whole murder plan his brother set in motion w/the first murder - THAT'S what sent him off on his murder spree....

Aurora - That is the most inane comment ever! Since when does more females in a drama = romance????? GOOOD GRIEF!!!! Honey, we need more women in TV. Period. One of the reasons I watch KDramas is because there ARE a lot more women in them than in the average Western show. Lots more women writers! So get a GRIP here!

I rather like this actress - her CHARACTER is written blandly in this.