The writer should have kept this draft in the drafts omg. Many parts of the drama plot are suitable for tv adaptation compared to the novel, but the story in the past few episodes has been causing me unwarranted exasperation. Their romance has not even properly blossomed. How will they fit that in and a sad ending in the last five episodes?
I need PY to suffer a different fate than in the novel. There is only one part of his ending n the novel he has earned with his full chest, and I want them to make it bigger. I also need his mother gone. Miss Dong should also have a different ending.
Agree 💯. Disappointing that the writers didn't give JC enough insight to figure out that WZ had plans larger…
She's actually too easily swayed. It has been this way since the beginning. She felt uncomfortable with PY and knew he was using her, but got softhearted whenever she heard someone comment on how well he treated her. At this point, she should have learnt her lesson, but they have her stuck.
I take it back. WZ should just forget everyone and focus on his original goal. This is so frustrating. JC met her master and has not had space to breathe and is completely running on her emotions. She's no more thinking for herself. She does not need to trust WZ enough to be with him, but she has to give him some credit and some leeway. The man is desperate to clear his father's name and liberate his people. Why should her master's freedom come first when the lives of so many people are at stake and his life's work is at stake? Her master is also not innocent in all these. She was a spy that changed course and is a critical key in this whole situation. So she basically earned her unfavourable situation. From the beginning, she should know that WZ has not been killing the witnesses, but capturing them and keeping them alive to be able to tell the truth later. She knows this from the Wei state minister case in the first 10 episodes. I'm really tired for WZ. He has borne so much misunderstanding from everyone and has been fighting for so long that he stopped caring about his own life. He really does not care if he dies because there are more important things. So seeing him go through this is painful. We can say he should not have lied to JC, and I actually agree, but I also disagree at the same time. He set his plan in motion concerning her master very reluctantly and regretfully. Even as a member of the audience, I actually can't tell if she would have understood and supported him in bringing her master and keeping her till the truth could be revealed.
Losing JC can be the sad price WZ has to pay for breaking her trust. JC should stay still, think carefully & collaborate with WZ to save herself and her master, then she can live freely away from all these men.
Hua Zhi I miss you so much. I know that HZ and JC are very different, in personality and upbringing, but truly HZ was my type of person. She was more logical than emotional. And the fact that we don't see many characters, esp female leads like her makes her all the more special. And why do they insist on doing this to female drama characters? I don't even blame JC. It somehow feels like she is spinning out of control. She has to be very tired and suffocated, so she is not thinking very clearly. It was bad enough that she was trapped between two ferocious tigers, but now it has gotten so much worse. And blockhead PY is the biggest problem.
PY only listens to himself omg. Why does he even bother having conversations with other people? I'm very exhausted on JC's behalf. I don't think he would let her go even if she dies. He'd probably want to have her ashes with him till he too dies.
Someone said that the scriptwriter of this show is the original novel author. I checked and it really is the same name. It feels like the drama plot is one of the possible storyline drafts the writer wrote and it is now stressing me out. I don't think a sad ending for the drama will be as justified as it was for the novel based on everything that has been changed.
The novel made me say, for the first time in my life, that a sad ending was apt for the story. The buildup to what happened to all the characters in the end was just immaculately done.
Wei Zhao is the most pitiful character here. I can't root for PY at all because he has had so many chances. Before, you could even say that some of his actions were as a result of being repressed by his mom and duty and precarious situation for so long. So having JC is like the first thing he really wants to obtain by all means. But he has passed the point of being affected by his situation, to making very conscious choices to possess her.
JC, for her sake, I wish she didn't go down the mountain. Or even if she did, I wish she did not sneak into the Marquis mansion to satisfy her curiosity. She has gone through too much. She has been a prisoner for so long and is being used and attacked by too many people. She and WZ are really cats with many lives omg. She's the character in the worst placement and position.
After reading the comments I'm having a mental breakdown here, how on earth can she f*cking come to like him?…
That is because you are looking at things in a very black and white way. With a privilege of not living in that time, not living in those circumstances. You are looking through 2024 eyes. In the novel, it is a much more stark contrast. The characters were harsher and more desperate. The story highlighted more, how your physical and emotional struggles are not as important as the main goal. Everyone put their bodies and lives on the line to live, to fight. They knew that the situation was desperate and dangerous and did their best with what they had. JC knows and understands WZ's pain, story & responsibility. So yes he tried to kill her, but it was out of necessity not hate. She was not his target. And she fell for his heart.
Their flirting game is so strong omg. They really feel like a married couple. I love how their relationship and characters have slowly evolved without losing their true essence.
That is why the novel was quite the experience. I just wrote a post about it. The novel basically shows how the…
I agree, but it makes sense for the setting of the story. Reality is tough and not everything happens in a way that can be fairly measured. That is why I understand it not being shown on screen because the audience, especially in this time, won't be able to bear it.
I lost the thread again, so I just want to elaborate on people comparing the drama characters to the novel characters…
That is why the novel was quite the experience. I just wrote a post about it. The novel basically shows how the physical and emotional troubles were so much less than the main goals and issues of the characters. They had to fight and survive, no matter what they went through.
Something of a spoiler. An event that has already passed in the drama and some general idea of how different the…
The novel really tells that your physical or emotional troubles are not as important as the main goal or life purpose. In the show, they only showed that PY tried to force a kiss on JC and she basically talked him out of it. The only other thing they kept consistent is his desire to own her/have her.
In the novel, he basically raped her. The only thing he did not get to do was the very last step. But he immobilised her and had both of them completely undressed and did everything else. And he enjoyed it. He was not out of his mind, his judgement was not clouded. He had lots of time and chances to stop, but he didn't. He was even smiling. The only reason he was not able to go all the way was because of the timely intervention of WZ and his men. They didn't even know that they were saving her. They just wanted to kidnap her as leverage and broke in at the right time. She was completely naked and only covered by the blanket, because PY stopped to see what was happening. And WZ used that blanket to wrap her up and take her away.
What is really interesting and sad is that JC, even after experiencing that, and not wanting to return, was forced to return after a while. And had to act like nothing happened. So she kinda interacted with PY normally even till the end.
The Yueluo people were not just sold as slaves. They were, especially the boys, sold into prostitution, and that is exactly what WZ became. A known male companion for the emperor since he was 12. And he had to act like he was willing and flatter the man. That is what they actually originally mean when they say he endured humiliation. So much so that even the Yueluo people hated Wei Zhao and did not know his real identity. He never showed them his real face or reveal all he did even till the end. The Yueluo people had to send their embroidery as tributes to the two states they were in the middle of. And because of the very high demand, their embroiders got blind in their young ages from working till dusk everyday, with barely any light to see. So even their people could not wear their highest quality pieces because those that could make them became workers for the tributes. And because their embroidery was tribute, they could not be sold for a living either. One of the girls W was working with, had to be planted into a mansion of a critical figure as a concubine. She had to seduce him and then bear him a son before his primary wife did. You see, the plan to liberate Yueluo is not just a 10 year plan. It is a 100 year plan. A plan that involved many generations, careful planning and sooo many sacrifices. Everyone in the book lived so desperately and even cruelly because they had to survive. It is something we have the privilege of not understanding.
I need PY to suffer a different fate than in the novel. There is only one part of his ending n the novel he has earned with his full chest, and I want them to make it bigger. I also need his mother gone. Miss Dong should also have a different ending.
From the beginning, she should know that WZ has not been killing the witnesses, but capturing them and keeping them alive to be able to tell the truth later. She knows this from the Wei state minister case in the first 10 episodes. I'm really tired for WZ. He has borne so much misunderstanding from everyone and has been fighting for so long that he stopped caring about his own life. He really does not care if he dies because there are more important things. So seeing him go through this is painful. We can say he should not have lied to JC, and I actually agree, but I also disagree at the same time. He set his plan in motion concerning her master very reluctantly and regretfully. Even as a member of the audience, I actually can't tell if she would have understood and supported him in bringing her master and keeping her till the truth could be revealed.
Losing JC can be the sad price WZ has to pay for breaking her trust. JC should stay still, think carefully & collaborate with WZ to save herself and her master, then she can live freely away from all these men.
And why do they insist on doing this to female drama characters? I don't even blame JC. It somehow feels like she is spinning out of control. She has to be very tired and suffocated, so she is not thinking very clearly. It was bad enough that she was trapped between two ferocious tigers, but now it has gotten so much worse. And blockhead PY is the biggest problem.
I don't think he would let her go even if she dies. He'd probably want to have her ashes with him till he too dies.
The novel made me say, for the first time in my life, that a sad ending was apt for the story. The buildup to what happened to all the characters in the end was just immaculately done.
I can't root for PY at all because he has had so many chances. Before, you could even say that some of his actions were as a result of being repressed by his mom and duty and precarious situation for so long. So having JC is like the first thing he really wants to obtain by all means. But he has passed the point of being affected by his situation, to making very conscious choices to possess her.
JC, for her sake, I wish she didn't go down the mountain. Or even if she did, I wish she did not sneak into the Marquis mansion to satisfy her curiosity. She has gone through too much. She has been a prisoner for so long and is being used and attacked by too many people. She and WZ are really cats with many lives omg. She's the character in the worst placement and position.
In the novel, it is a much more stark contrast. The characters were harsher and more desperate. The story highlighted more, how your physical and emotional struggles are not as important as the main goal. Everyone put their bodies and lives on the line to live, to fight. They knew that the situation was desperate and dangerous and did their best with what they had. JC knows and understands WZ's pain, story & responsibility. So yes he tried to kill her, but it was out of necessity not hate. She was not his target. And she fell for his heart.
I love how their relationship and characters have slowly evolved without losing their true essence.
In the show, they only showed that PY tried to force a kiss on JC and she basically talked him out of it. The only other thing they kept consistent is his desire to own her/have her.
In the novel, he basically raped her. The only thing he did not get to do was the very last step. But he immobilised her and had both of them completely undressed and did everything else. And he enjoyed it. He was not out of his mind, his judgement was not clouded. He had lots of time and chances to stop, but he didn't. He was even smiling. The only reason he was not able to go all the way was because of the timely intervention of WZ and his men. They didn't even know that they were saving her. They just wanted to kidnap her as leverage and broke in at the right time. She was completely naked and only covered by the blanket, because PY stopped to see what was happening. And WZ used that blanket to wrap her up and take her away.
What is really interesting and sad is that JC, even after experiencing that, and not wanting to return, was forced to return after a while. And had to act like nothing happened. So she kinda interacted with PY normally even till the end.
The Yueluo people were not just sold as slaves. They were, especially the boys, sold into prostitution, and that is exactly what WZ became. A known male companion for the emperor since he was 12. And he had to act like he was willing and flatter the man. That is what they actually originally mean when they say he endured humiliation. So much so that even the Yueluo people hated Wei Zhao and did not know his real identity. He never showed them his real face or reveal all he did even till the end.
The Yueluo people had to send their embroidery as tributes to the two states they were in the middle of. And because of the very high demand, their embroiders got blind in their young ages from working till dusk everyday, with barely any light to see. So even their people could not wear their highest quality pieces because those that could make them became workers for the tributes. And because their embroidery was tribute, they could not be sold for a living either.
One of the girls W was working with, had to be planted into a mansion of a critical figure as a concubine. She had to seduce him and then bear him a son before his primary wife did. You see, the plan to liberate Yueluo is not just a 10 year plan. It is a 100 year plan. A plan that involved many generations, careful planning and sooo many sacrifices. Everyone in the book lived so desperately and even cruelly because they had to survive. It is something we have the privilege of not understanding.