I agree on everything you said from the beginning. I just want to add that BDSM relationships aren't about violence/rape/torture…
Yes, unfortunately. And it irks me when even Westerners find it ''hot''. Waves of protests would have probably erupted if Tine were a girl, but since he is a boy it sounds normal to 'everyone', as if a male can't be abused or raped just because he is a male.. what's completely untrue. When I read books like those, I ask myself one question: "How in the hell did an editor accept to publish such monstrosity?" If the author wanted to write such totem of depravity, so be it, but for other people (editor, booksellers, movies makers...) to condone it... it renders me speechless. GMMTV will certainly skip the whole non-consensual thing but not all film makers are sensitive enough to do so, if you read the plot of the new Thai movie Love Syndrome you will see that some put it in the headlines!
I was ready to send this drama to Top of my fav bl 's drama but i read the sex chapter of novel & wtf . The author…
I agree on everything you said from the beginning. I just want to add that BDSM relationships aren't about violence/rape/torture when both Dom and Sub are dating, not even when they are only in a contractual relationship (or playing).. it's all about trust and consent, the Sub must want it and a safe word is usually at the sub's disposition, if the person wants to stop the Dom would stop right away. BDSM is a lifestyle, but what Sarawat did in the novel was totally unjustified and unjustifiable, it contradicted every sweet thing he said or done for Tine before. And the worst about the whole thing is that I read people saying it was okay, and when I asked a Thai friend about it, she said that a few years ago it was still considered normal in Thailand, and nothing was shocking about it. So... * I sound like an MC promoting BDSM, but I am a total stranger to it lol
it is an unfinished ... everything remains hanging and the fish would like to be the key to reading the film in…
I watched it at last. I didn't get time earlier and I agree with you on everything you said. In some way, open/blurry endings are an art but like every art, not everyone is an artist. Even though many Japanese movies that had open endings were rather satisfying, this one got to be an exception. It's hard to come out with a miracle on the end when the intrigue isn't credible. Too bad!
The movie tackles the realities of trans-sexuality and homosexuality in a very basic and realistic way, and shows just how many obstacles come on the way of a transgender person before and after undergoing a sex reassignment surgery.. and that the surgery itself can do miracles on the body but there's no such miraculous remedy for the psychology of the interested one. The moral of the story? We can change ourselves but our change can't change others.
I know, but I do never watch the same show with different casts. Moreover, I didn't like the story-line (I know it's been altered in the 2nd version). Only Ming and Kit's side story was enjoyable to some extent and the actors Kim and Copter were fine, they did their job. I think, and it's the honest opinion of a gay guy, this actor, God Itthipat Thanit should try his luck in modeling if he didn't, he's attractive, he'd be a successful model, but as an actor... unless he registers a lot of courses, he isn't convincing.
Completely agree with everything you said. My main criticism for the current situation is that the statement from…
I think they were victims of Icarus' Complex, they shouldn't have accepted to release a show that wasn't filmed yet. It was a risk too high for the uncertainty of the market and the nature of the industry. But what's done is done, hopefully the remaining episodes will make it up for the current situation. When they'll be aired doesn't matter, all that matters is their quality.. :)
I don’t know if the recent issues/or disagreements on this page came with regards to the pertinent criticisms.…
My tired brain didn't push the reflection further than the words "disagreements" and "recent issues", as in my mind it sounded as if it were all about the pandemic's problematic... So sorry, I am open-minded but I do everything to sound very narrow-minded today. It's not even typing, I think it was all my fault for this time. I think I read too much comments on the new Covid that my Pavlovian conditioning chimed in and my mind went there :/ You can reply to my comments whenever you want and say whatever you want, I respect everyone's opinions even when they collide with my own. And thank you. There's no Covid-19 case on my workplace, but I live in Italy so it's always in my mind.
Completely agree with everything you said. My main criticism for the current situation is that the statement from…
Exactly, I am glad that there's at least one person here who understands me. This is exactly what I said in all the comments I posted on this page. If they were just honest from the start, I am sure nobody (no genuine fan at least) would have minded them taking a break or releasing what they had as they had it (although the first option sounds better), in place they just threw the episodes 9 and 10 at us as if we were devoid of taste, ready to accept whatever comes... it might be the case for some, but not all of us. I repeat what I said 6 days ago: in cinema, it's better to arrive late and beautiful than early and ugly. Professionalism is all we expect, what happens in between because of the pandemic is something that nobody can neither predict nor control, and only a fool would judge them for that.
I don’t know if the recent issues/or disagreements on this page came with regards to the pertinent criticisms.…
Is it about the new Covid-19? You know, I work in a hospital, it's a reality that I can hardly ignore, and, if you check the previous comments, you will find one that I published 6 days ago and where I said that I'd prefer for the series to stop airing completely until the situation comes back to normal. I also said that it's an opportunity for the team to enjoy the break to review the aired episodes, to re-edit what should be re-edited and re-write what has to be re-written. I have never, not at one single moment, complained about the delay and the issues related to the pandemic. And my message isn't related to that topic either. I am just addressing a few comments to those who attack every person who dares to pinpoint the shortcomings in the series. I think it's the best moment to publish last-minute constructive critiques so that the team will, hopefully, take them into consideration and the next episodes will meet the expectations, and it saddens me that some people don't make a difference between pertinent critiques and gratuitous hatred. I hope it's clearer by now.
I want to reply to those who whine because of the pertinent critiques that some genuine fans share here. Just so you know, critiques are vital for all artists (writers, singers, movies makers, actors, chefs....) and the art of criticism is taught in schools, it's a prestigious field of expertise, empires are built and others ruined by critiques. Critics rule the roost in all self-respecting industry... Huge companies spend billions to please the critics and famous movie directors are scared of the critiques because they know that the persons behind them hold their success and ruin in hand. A critic is like a teacher or a father who gets kids back on track when, at having their heads too high in the clouds, they slip out of it, and the wise kid is the one who listens to his teacher and father's advices. Those who know their job know that pleasing the critics is a red-carpet to success, but the ones who can't stand harsh and constructive criticism should consider changing careers with no further ado.
So, people, let us express our opinions freely. We can be harsh, demanding and passionate with our reviews and critiques, and have high standards, but we are human beings and fans before all. Those companies are for most of them just starting, they need to learn and improve... and it won't be by flattery that this will happen. Gay cinema is over blind support, now if you want to stand by the LGBT+ community, don't let LGBT+ shows be the laughing stock in the industry. We are tired of third-grade shows. We, too, deserve masterpieces and success. Because you might watch for fun, but there are LGBT+ people here, I am one of them, and for us "fun" is just not enough.
If the professionals accept criticisms, and we are being open-minded with you, why can't you do the same?
*I didn't watch the new episode but I am glad that it's not the actual episode 11. Good point for the crew!
It's easy to be silver-tongued, but how do people make their own opinion about someone/something without taking the time to know them/it first? I watched for Kim and Copter, and, I "didn't bother" as you oh-so-easily say with the other seasons.
Yeah, the thinner a body is, the taller it looks. It's the law of gravity, as the pressure of the attraction is more important on a body that has a more imposing mass.
Strong?... hold on, my brain needs to adjust... rumor or not, do you mean the actor from What the Duck?
I agree. When it comes to this, it boils down to invading people's privacy and it's liable to legal prosecution. There's no fun in hurting people and I detest fan-fiction for this very reason, because when there are no limits, people tend to go too far. If I asked, it's because I know both actors and the idea sounded absurd to me. And, for being gay myself, they didn't seem to me to give off any gay vibes. They are just two friendly young men and it's heartwarming to see :)
Strong?... hold on, my brain needs to adjust... rumor or not, do you mean the actor from What the Duck?
I think it's very unlikely. I saw photographs and videos of them being all "lovey-dovey" but I think they were just fooling around. Moreover, both are rather sociable and affectionate actors in real life, so it's nothing out of the ordinary :)
Yeah...I certainly understand why they did what they did for eps 9 and 10 (even more so now that I know they paid…
This is exactly what I think and I don't understand how some shows can be rated 10 when they deserve very well 1/10. I think the time of blind support to those companies (just because they "dare" filming gay-themed shows) is over, people aren't helping gay cinema when they rub those directors the right way as if afraid to upset them, I think it's time to be demanding. Time to be sharp and pertinent with our critiques, because when the critic says the truth, nobody could say otherwise. Unfortunately there will always be people to give easy ratings and sugar-coated reviews and critiques, unaware they are that they harm the Gay/BL genre more than those who (like me) are pitiless when it comes to critiques... and I am not only referring to cinema, it's the same scourge everywhere, even more so when it comes to books/mangas.
The other thing I can't stand is when viewers give bad ratings to shows just because their favorite character died, or they didn't get the ending they want. Lack of objectivity is as harmful as those soppy, undeserved high ratings!
Yeah...I certainly understand why they did what they did for eps 9 and 10 (even more so now that I know they paid…
Honestly--and I repeat it too much when it comes to Thai BL dramas unfortunately, I think the problems with this series started with the intrigue, it felt like swimming purposelessly in the fog (the proof, both couples are happily "married" already and 80% of the cast is gone missing). With a vague intrigue, the script can only be tasteless and directionless. I won't blame the casting manager for once since the screenwriter was the one at fault, but I won't spare the producer and the director. I think it's their entire fault, it's playing with the public's precious time and trust to start airing something that's not completely filmed yet.. only farmers start selling their stocks of vegetables while others aren't harvested yet. Those movies directors act as if the shows are perishable or combustible.. as if they'd get burned if they don't release them too early.
I ranted a lot about the topic in the review I wrote for UWMA... and I will repeat myself again, they did this because they don't care, for them the audience is predominately young, for them young means inexpert (said otherwise, easily-fooled dummies) and there lies their mistake. The younger the public is, the most experienced it is, the finer taste it has, and the stronger its memory is... they better watch out!
As for your interrogations, I think what I mean is clear. There is nothing to expect from a team that stacked so many professional faults already. The episodes 9 and 10 were only the cherry on the cake. Let's hope they will learn from this and make it up to the fans in the future, a fault is a fault only when it's repeated :)
* I sound like an MC promoting BDSM, but I am a total stranger to it lol
The moral of the story? We can change ourselves but our change can't change others.
I think, and it's the honest opinion of a gay guy, this actor, God Itthipat Thanit should try his luck in modeling if he didn't, he's attractive, he'd be a successful model, but as an actor... unless he registers a lot of courses, he isn't convincing.
You can reply to my comments whenever you want and say whatever you want, I respect everyone's opinions even when they collide with my own. And thank you. There's no Covid-19 case on my workplace, but I live in Italy so it's always in my mind.
So, people, let us express our opinions freely. We can be harsh, demanding and passionate with our reviews and critiques, and have high standards, but we are human beings and fans before all. Those companies are for most of them just starting, they need to learn and improve... and it won't be by flattery that this will happen. Gay cinema is over blind support, now if you want to stand by the LGBT+ community, don't let LGBT+ shows be the laughing stock in the industry. We are tired of third-grade shows. We, too, deserve masterpieces and success. Because you might watch for fun, but there are LGBT+ people here, I am one of them, and for us "fun" is just not enough.
If the professionals accept criticisms, and we are being open-minded with you, why can't you do the same?
*I didn't watch the new episode but I am glad that it's not the actual episode 11. Good point for the crew!
The other thing I can't stand is when viewers give bad ratings to shows just because their favorite character died, or they didn't get the ending they want. Lack of objectivity is as harmful as those soppy, undeserved high ratings!
I ranted a lot about the topic in the review I wrote for UWMA... and I will repeat myself again, they did this because they don't care, for them the audience is predominately young, for them young means inexpert (said otherwise, easily-fooled dummies) and there lies their mistake. The younger the public is, the most experienced it is, the finer taste it has, and the stronger its memory is... they better watch out!
As for your interrogations, I think what I mean is clear. There is nothing to expect from a team that stacked so many professional faults already. The episodes 9 and 10 were only the cherry on the cake. Let's hope they will learn from this and make it up to the fans in the future, a fault is a fault only when it's repeated :)