Yeah...I certainly understand why they did what they did for eps 9 and 10 (even more so now that I know they paid…
True, I know that it impacts many paralleling parties, but I think it's better to lose money and disappoint the sponsors than to lose the audience, as the public is for the industry the only investment that gives a high yield on the long term.
Some see the glass half-empty, for me it's always full. I think the new coronavirus gave them a priceless opportunity to correct their mistakes... they'd be well-advised to seize it and save what can be saved... if not money, their capital-audience.
Before saying anything else, I'll just say that I dropped this series twice before coming back to it... because I was bored at work and didn't know what to do. And the episodes 9 and 10 left me speechless. I didn't know they had problems (I thought the filming was over), so I was wondering why they wanted us so much to attend Tutor and Fighter's "honeymoon trip". The two episodes embarrassed me. As much as the duo is my favorite (not that I don't like Saifah and Zon), watching them for two episodes straight made me uncomfortable. Now that I know the reason, I think there is only one thing to do.
Obviously, the only thing that can satisfy the audience on the long-term and keep everyone safe is to stop the airing right here, to rewrite the script while taking into consideration the critiques of the fans (because some of them are truly precious) and re-editing the previous episodes while filming what has to be filmed once the opportunity comes. It could be re-aired in several months but at least it would be good.
Cinematography is like seduction, one who takes time to dress up and look good can be forgiven even if he's late, but one who arrives ahead of time with hobo looks will most likely be dumped.
Okay so in what order should I watch History (Taiwanese BL series) in?
I think you watched them already, it's been two months but I will reply to everyone else who asks the same question. I think it's better to watch them in this order: - My Hero - Stay Away From Me - Obsessed..... Simply, leave the best last, so you won't be disappointed. In season 2, I think they are equally good (I favor Right or Wrong, personally), and in 3rd, Trapped should be left last I think since MODC is.... meh!
What did Ohm afterwards is not said explicitly, and it's unclear if Wan and Ohm ended up together, it's an open ending that everyone has to interpret as they see fit. This is what happened: Ohm suggested a three-person relationship because he had feelings for both of them, and Tar had feelings for both as well (but Tar loved Wan more). However, Wan refused as he couldn't bear to see Ohm kissing Tar in front of him... in the end when asked if he chooses to get back with Tar (Tar admitted he did something wrong and also admitted that he still loved Wan as before), Wan rejected him because of that something he did, and because he couldn't trust him (when he was himself the least trustworthy of the three), and said that in the end, all the three of them were guilty of something and none was better than the other... Eventually, they went their separate ways, but it was not mentioned.
Usually, when it comes to History series, I watch them as soon as they start airing. But with this one I was stuck on episode 1 and I didn't know why I didn't want to watch it. Now that I read the comments, I think I do.. and I also think that it's time to watch it, come what may... I have no problem with sad endings... but if the story-line is distorted and the ending unrealistic, my rating will be merciless.
Edit: I watched up to the episode 6 and started skimming through it. Let's just say, this is the first Taiwanese drama to disappoint me to this point. It's even worse than History 1: My Hero... at least, although far-fetched and ridiculous, My Hero was entertaining (if you don't expect anything from it).. whereas with this I think they missed something: If you want a tragic ending make the beginning that goes with it, if you want a happy ending write the beginning that suits it, if you want an unexpected ending, make the story that's compatible with it, surprise the audience throughout the show... yet, here the beginning and the ending are worlds apart, the ending sounded baked at the last minute, the dough is still raw... how they call it already... smoke and mirrors. Those who watched Views of Love: Grey Rainbow will understand because it's the same heresy.
Sorry Xiang Hao Ting if I laughed when you started crying.
I read the novel and I like Mork's personality a lot, and the novel is well-written as well, way better than most of Thai BL novels I read lately. However, the script of the series is written by Fluke Teerapat Lohanan. I am curious about his writing talents after having known him as an actor for 6 years now. I am really interested in this little series :)
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I have no idea but it's not only related to Theory of Love, it's a problem in 90% of the Thai bl/gay shows I watched, they seem to always bite off more than they can chew... leaving side stories botched and/or half of the cast completely discarded partway... some call it "cultural", they build excuses saying it's "their way of doing"... honestly, some habits should be reviewed.
Edit: I watched this season but I am stuck on Sotus S episode 6 since days, I don't think I'll complete it anytime soon. I am still unable to pinpoint everything i don't like (or don't enjoy, the correct word) in this series, it's a whole thing I guess. Too many little details that make the show lackluster in my eyes. At least I could see clearer in the editing game and give it an acceptable rating in comparison with the first time.
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So good morning :D
Honestly, if it's the reason of the fiasco, I'd put all the blame on the movie producer and the casting manager. I don't see why they would cast an actor who can't fulfill the whole requirements of the script... moreover, from what I saw in the series, White didn't seem to be uncomfortable with Earth at all. I adored him in Love Sick (although I was 100% for the squid couple lol), yet I dared to think he had more chemistry with Earth than with Captain (it's not true but it's what it seemed like at the moment) so, whatever was the reason, it was probably an error of judgment from the crew.. because, even in the case where White couldn't portray the character as planned, it was their fault to cast him. As for Captain, I am still waiting for the 3rd season of Love Sick that will probably never happen. The spin-off of Earn/Pete story is even more unlikely to happen. I could only vent my spleen on Reminders' page :/
So I’ve been putting off watching this because I heard a lot of -ve comments regarding the ending. I see you…
LMAO. I will be right here waiting to read your feedback. I am curious, I want to know what you think about it. n.b. I like it when people rant, so don't hesitate XD
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Sorry for the late reply, I fell asleep ^^
For me, the only good reason to drop a show is its story-line. I can stand everything (poor acting, ugly scenery, chaotic editing...) if the story-line is good and the development stable and constant in its quality I'd watch it despite it all, but if everything is great but the story-line/script is poorly written I'd probably end up dropping it at some point, and if by any miracle I watch it until the end, I'd get my revenge while rating it lol
Indeed. They should have written the script for Earth and White because the idea was good, the intrigue was interesting and they were popular actors (that doesn't have any importance to me but for them it would have been still profitable), but they just messed the whole thing up, I guess they wanted Gun to be the lead at all cost, he's a good actor, very talented, but an actor no matter how great he is, he can't save a disastrous script! I was happy despite myself after dropping it... happy that I didn't watch the whole thing for Aun/Two's sake because I'd have been disappointed to no end, considering the outcome :/
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Yeah, I am rather open-minded because I know that I am a weirdo so I don't expect people to be like me or like the things I like lol
Same for me, MDL is the only site where I find, more or less, people who enjoy BL and Gay-themed shows so overtly and beautifully, there are less stereotypes and less killjoys; I like it so far :D
Together With Me was a bittersweet experience. I loved Korn (Max) but I shipped him with Mew, so the whole Korn/Knock ship... ended in the bottom of the abyss in my case lmao...
As for Theory of Love, I think I didn't complete the third episode before dropping it, I liked Gun in Love Love You and White in Love Sick 1 & 2, and I am keen on cinematography but as you say, the whole movies making theme left me rolling my eyes in a corner. I might have watched a few scenes from the next episodes because I was curious about Aun/Two (Earth and White) but, eventually, I was disappointed as well and ended up just dropping the whole thing and consoling my heart with Sun and Mork from Dark Blue Kiss lol
I know that the problem comes from me when I can't mention one good reason why I don't like a show, because, often, I have thousands and I am never stingy with critiques lol
So I’ve been putting off watching this because I heard a lot of -ve comments regarding the ending. I see you…
Yes, I watched all the Asian BL shows available and I like to give my opinion (especially when it's negative lol), and it's true that I am demanding, but I just want those budding filming industries to learn from their mistakes and improve the quality of their shows :D
As for Grey Rainbow, I'd say it's the whole package, and I am being sarcastic... Grey Rainbow is great and horrible at the same time. It's a great story, great cast, great film-set, great acting, great timing, ... and a horrible ending. The ending scene in itself isn't horrible, it's nothing that I'd call tragic or sad because the development of the story-line didn't foreshadow, at any moment, that the ending would be of that "kind"... it was so ridiculous and unexpected that the only adjective I could find at the moment was "stupid". It was stupid really, it was as if the ending scene was cut from another show and put there... It was obvious that the director wanted to "surprise" the audience with an unexpected denouement... I admit it, I like unexpected endings and, indeed, I was surprised, but it wasn't the ending scene that surprised me; the decision of the movie director and the screenwriter to end the series in such disastrous way was way more surprising! It's just like baking the most prestigious cake in the world and spreading tabasco sauce on it... what a fiasco!
I won't prattle more, what I mean is that the series is worth watching, really, you will love it if you do, there are very beautiful scenes in it and it isn't BL, it's purely gay with a very realistic intrigue, endearing characters, touching dialogues, handsome actors, consistent twists... the editing was very good as well.. but the last scene--the notorious ending--was stupid. If you keep that in mind, you can watch it, you will be less disappointed than we've been. I hope this helps :)
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I understand and agree with you. There are shows that I adore but that other people can't stand at all, as well (I love Amphetamine, for me it was a masterpiece, but some people think that the movie was horrible... although I adore it, I understand that there's no accounting for taste). Let's just say that with Sotus it wasn't love at first sight for me, I remember I watched the first episode with a poker face before putting it on hold for two weeks and then came back to it, watched up to the 9th episode and dropped it because I couldn't stand it at all. It was just like spending time with someone who does everything to infuriate you, I had exactly that feeling, yet it was a show, not a person. I, in person, thought that I was exaggerating... my distaste grew stronger when I read the comments of the fans who liked it, I was downright pissed (or jealous because I couldn't enjoy it) lol
I did the same for Club Friday 5: The Secret of a Heart That Doesn't Exist.. I detested one of the leads (Winnie), and kept a very bad opinion of him for 5 years despite my appreciation for the mini-series, but I watched it again lately and I am loving it even more than before. Now I understand Win's behavior and think it was the other lead's fault (Boss)... because I went through something similar in my life, it helped me understand several story-lines that I couldn't before.
I don't always give another chance to a book or a show, I just do it when it's very popular and when I know that the problem comes from me lol
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Why I detested it? It's hard to tell because I don't know it myself ... not the rational reason, at least. I have always had tones of good reasons to drop shows, but with this one it's was rather a matter of "compatibility". My brain didn't want to accept it, it was a data that my system didn't want to process... People have diverse allergies. Me? I was allergic to Sotus! And the most ironic about it? It's a BL series about engineering students, and I am gay and when Sotus was airing I was an engineering student too! Though, when I gave it the lowest rating I knew that I was being unfair, and knew that I had to comeback to it at some point to watch it with "new eyes", and that's what I am doing. It was inconceivable to me not to comeback to it since I loved every side of it separately... it was the mix that was hard to swallow!
Of course, I will return here in a few days to say what I think about it. I am already halfway through the first season :)
Sotus, I watched it. I waited weekly for it. I put it on hold. I returned to it. I dropped it. I rated it 3/10, and then 1/10. I detested it for years. I think I did everything to this series already... but I am coming back to it to give it a second chance. I do always give a show or a book another chance when it deserves it. Let's see how it turns out.
This is the third series I put on-hold in one week.... I don't feel like waiting for it every Friday anymore since the only reason why I was watching it is discarded and the level seriously dropped after the third episode. Not worth the little free time I have!
Some see the glass half-empty, for me it's always full. I think the new coronavirus gave them a priceless opportunity to correct their mistakes... they'd be well-advised to seize it and save what can be saved... if not money, their capital-audience.
Obviously, the only thing that can satisfy the audience on the long-term and keep everyone safe is to stop the airing right here, to rewrite the script while taking into consideration the critiques of the fans (because some of them are truly precious) and re-editing the previous episodes while filming what has to be filmed once the opportunity comes. It could be re-aired in several months but at least it would be good.
Cinematography is like seduction, one who takes time to dress up and look good can be forgiven even if he's late, but one who arrives ahead of time with hobo looks will most likely be dumped.
This is what happened:
Ohm suggested a three-person relationship because he had feelings for both of them, and Tar had feelings for both as well (but Tar loved Wan more). However, Wan refused as he couldn't bear to see Ohm kissing Tar in front of him... in the end when asked if he chooses to get back with Tar (Tar admitted he did something wrong and also admitted that he still loved Wan as before), Wan rejected him because of that something he did, and because he couldn't trust him (when he was himself the least trustworthy of the three), and said that in the end, all the three of them were guilty of something and none was better than the other... Eventually, they went their separate ways, but it was not mentioned.
Edit: I watched up to the episode 6 and started skimming through it. Let's just say, this is the first Taiwanese drama to disappoint me to this point. It's even worse than History 1: My Hero... at least, although far-fetched and ridiculous, My Hero was entertaining (if you don't expect anything from it).. whereas with this I think they missed something: If you want a tragic ending make the beginning that goes with it, if you want a happy ending write the beginning that suits it, if you want an unexpected ending, make the story that's compatible with it, surprise the audience throughout the show... yet, here the beginning and the ending are worlds apart, the ending sounded baked at the last minute, the dough is still raw... how they call it already... smoke and mirrors. Those who watched Views of Love: Grey Rainbow will understand because it's the same heresy.
Sorry Xiang Hao Ting if I laughed when you started crying.
Edit: I watched this season but I am stuck on Sotus S episode 6 since days, I don't think I'll complete it anytime soon. I am still unable to pinpoint everything i don't like (or don't enjoy, the correct word) in this series, it's a whole thing I guess. Too many little details that make the show lackluster in my eyes. At least I could see clearer in the editing game and give it an acceptable rating in comparison with the first time.
Honestly, if it's the reason of the fiasco, I'd put all the blame on the movie producer and the casting manager. I don't see why they would cast an actor who can't fulfill the whole requirements of the script... moreover, from what I saw in the series, White didn't seem to be uncomfortable with Earth at all. I adored him in Love Sick (although I was 100% for the squid couple lol), yet I dared to think he had more chemistry with Earth than with Captain (it's not true but it's what it seemed like at the moment) so, whatever was the reason, it was probably an error of judgment from the crew.. because, even in the case where White couldn't portray the character as planned, it was their fault to cast him. As for Captain, I am still waiting for the 3rd season of Love Sick that will probably never happen. The spin-off of Earn/Pete story is even more unlikely to happen. I could only vent my spleen on Reminders' page :/
n.b. I like it when people rant, so don't hesitate XD
For me, the only good reason to drop a show is its story-line. I can stand everything (poor acting, ugly scenery, chaotic editing...) if the story-line is good and the development stable and constant in its quality I'd watch it despite it all, but if everything is great but the story-line/script is poorly written I'd probably end up dropping it at some point, and if by any miracle I watch it until the end, I'd get my revenge while rating it lol
Indeed. They should have written the script for Earth and White because the idea was good, the intrigue was interesting and they were popular actors (that doesn't have any importance to me but for them it would have been still profitable), but they just messed the whole thing up, I guess they wanted Gun to be the lead at all cost, he's a good actor, very talented, but an actor no matter how great he is, he can't save a disastrous script! I was happy despite myself after dropping it... happy that I didn't watch the whole thing for Aun/Two's sake because I'd have been disappointed to no end, considering the outcome :/
Same for me, MDL is the only site where I find, more or less, people who enjoy BL and Gay-themed shows so overtly and beautifully, there are less stereotypes and less killjoys; I like it so far :D
Together With Me was a bittersweet experience. I loved Korn (Max) but I shipped him with Mew, so the whole Korn/Knock ship... ended in the bottom of the abyss in my case lmao...
As for Theory of Love, I think I didn't complete the third episode before dropping it, I liked Gun in Love Love You and White in Love Sick 1 & 2, and I am keen on cinematography but as you say, the whole movies making theme left me rolling my eyes in a corner. I might have watched a few scenes from the next episodes because I was curious about Aun/Two (Earth and White) but, eventually, I was disappointed as well and ended up just dropping the whole thing and consoling my heart with Sun and Mork from Dark Blue Kiss lol
I know that the problem comes from me when I can't mention one good reason why I don't like a show, because, often, I have thousands and I am never stingy with critiques lol
As for Grey Rainbow, I'd say it's the whole package, and I am being sarcastic... Grey Rainbow is great and horrible at the same time. It's a great story, great cast, great film-set, great acting, great timing, ... and a horrible ending. The ending scene in itself isn't horrible, it's nothing that I'd call tragic or sad because the development of the story-line didn't foreshadow, at any moment, that the ending would be of that "kind"... it was so ridiculous and unexpected that the only adjective I could find at the moment was "stupid". It was stupid really, it was as if the ending scene was cut from another show and put there... It was obvious that the director wanted to "surprise" the audience with an unexpected denouement... I admit it, I like unexpected endings and, indeed, I was surprised, but it wasn't the ending scene that surprised me; the decision of the movie director and the screenwriter to end the series in such disastrous way was way more surprising! It's just like baking the most prestigious cake in the world and spreading tabasco sauce on it... what a fiasco!
I won't prattle more, what I mean is that the series is worth watching, really, you will love it if you do, there are very beautiful scenes in it and it isn't BL, it's purely gay with a very realistic intrigue, endearing characters, touching dialogues, handsome actors, consistent twists... the editing was very good as well.. but the last scene--the notorious ending--was stupid. If you keep that in mind, you can watch it, you will be less disappointed than we've been. I hope this helps :)
I did the same for Club Friday 5: The Secret of a Heart That Doesn't Exist.. I detested one of the leads (Winnie), and kept a very bad opinion of him for 5 years despite my appreciation for the mini-series, but I watched it again lately and I am loving it even more than before. Now I understand Win's behavior and think it was the other lead's fault (Boss)... because I went through something similar in my life, it helped me understand several story-lines that I couldn't before.
I don't always give another chance to a book or a show, I just do it when it's very popular and when I know that the problem comes from me lol
Though, when I gave it the lowest rating I knew that I was being unfair, and knew that I had to comeback to it at some point to watch it with "new eyes", and that's what I am doing. It was inconceivable to me not to comeback to it since I loved every side of it separately... it was the mix that was hard to swallow!
Of course, I will return here in a few days to say what I think about it. I am already halfway through the first season :)
Let's see how it turns out.
I don't feel like waiting for it every Friday anymore since the only reason why I was watching it is discarded and the level seriously dropped after the third episode.
Not worth the little free time I have!