AshesandDust

I know right? And i miss the ost too...the one that goes from a mellow song to a rock song with growls in s3 (i love rock and diablo did so well with the ost)

You mean jang hyuk? Nah his arc was resolved. Do kang woo is the one we had for more than one season, bang je soo is still out there and i think its only right that to conclude bang je soo's arc they bring back do kang woo. I dont think do kang woo is going to beat himself over killing a man as evil as his brother. Even if he does, they can always show him overcoming it. He's definitely not the only male lead in kdrama land to have killed an evil family member and gotten over it

I really want to see her in another mystery/thriller with choi daniel. They had beautiful chemistry in the ghost detective. I wish they could be cast in an ocn drama

I would suggest you read my review and hopefully that will help you decide. But be warned my review does have spoilers

So i decided to watch this show despite the countless reviews detailing the plot holes and saying that the latter half was bad. Adding to that, the ratings were bad too but somehow i kept coming back to this page. There was something about the plot that made me want to watch in spite of all the bad reviews and bad ratings. And im so glad i did! I did not regret it for one minute. This is coming from someone who loves shows like Voice, Beyond Evil, Law School, The uncanny Counter, My Mister, Hot stove league, The Guest, Train, Signal, Kingdom, Vagabond, Stranger, Liar Game, Bad Guys, Hello Monster (there are lots more but these are the titles i can recall for the moment). Point is, I'm a huge fan of thrillers with action/mystery. The presence or absence of romance does not matter to me. Now that I've got that out of the way, lets get into the drama itself:
Storyline: the plot starts strong. There are scary bits which are tastefully placed and are not meaningless jumpscares. The whole idea of a ghost who uses the darkest parts of the human mind and turns it against them was interesting to me. This was a ghost who was still mentally a 12 year old child. She wanted to be right as most 12 year olds do and she was angry. She took advantage of people and their darkest thoughts just to prove a point. Except there were two people who did not follow the straight line she had etched. And that is where her obsession with our main leads begins. All of this was skillfully done by the writer. Sunwoo hye's anger and hatred, the rules of the ghost world. And then the tiwst. Dealing with a ghost was bad enough but how do you deal with a reanimated body out for revenge with no means to kill them? I loved that little twist. However i give the plot 7.5/10 because while the plot was engaging, i feel like the writer took on more than they could handle which lead to some plot points not being concluded and leaving much for the viewer to deduce themselves. For example, why was that rich ceo going so far for the agency? I get that he was grateful to them for finding and returning his daughtet but even then you would expect him to be a little skeptical no? And seeing him smile in one or two scenes made me think that maybe he had nefarious purposes but at the end of the show he was just a money bank for the agency. Then there was park eun chong who in my opinion was an unnecessary addition to the show. He did not bring much to the plot and the show would not have changed much without him. Then there's the part about lee da il being back...dont get me wrong i was incredibly happy that the show brought him back, but what is he? Is he a ghost? An in betweener who can travel between this world and the land where ghosts stop before they move on to the next life? I could have really used atleast a hint. In my opinion lee da il is no longer a ghost, the biggest hint being when he changed his clothes without yeo wool having to offer them to him. Then the whole being able to control the evil spirit side. All of this made it seem like (to me atleast) that he was no longer a ghost.
I saw alot of reviews raising questions regarding plot holes, not just on this site but on other sites as well. Having read those reviews beforehand i was prepared to determine whether these were actual plot holes. My verdict? 80% of those plot holes are not actually plot holes. Why was sunwoo hye captured in the dash cam but not in the cctv? Simple, she wanted to be seen in the dash cam. She can choose to be visible to others. Another thing is that when yeo wool sees sunwoo hye for the first time, she is cradling her sister's head and in a close up of that scene you see that her hand also touches the hearing aid yi rang is wearing. That is in my opinion the reason why yeo wool was able to see sunwoo hye back then. Also we learn later in the drama that a ghost causing a startle response can result in them being visible to others. When yeo wool saw sunwoo hye she did not know she was a ghost. Yi rang had already been dealing with her for some time hence none of them were startled by her. While the restaurant manager was definitely startled. Another thing people complained about was the characters going of on their own and creating unnecessary problems just for the sake of 'conflict'. I disagree. Yeo wool goes on her own to kill sunwoo hye because she knows lee da ill will not let her. She believes she has the way to end sunwoo hye's killing spree and decides to act on it. Lee da ill acts on his own yes, but viewers forget that he kept detective park and kim gyeol in the loop so technically he never acted on his own. He was just selective about who he let in on the plan. Some viewers said that sunwoo hye being unkillable was ridiculous. No it wasnt. In the show's universe it made sense. Yeo wool was supposed to stab sunwoo hye that first time because she was willing to sacrifice herself. She knew that she might fail but still decided to go forward with it. But lee da il stabs her instead. Lee da il is a ghost and at that point he was unaware that his body lived. Hence he wasn't thinking about sacrifice. Him stabbing sunwoo hye broke the rules and so created an abomination. Viewers asked why did lee da il suddenly start disappearing and 1 a.m. that is already explained in the show so i wont get into it. A question i saw raised by a review in another site was that why didnt lee da il disappear with sunwoo hye the first time he held on to her the first time she disappeared at 1 a.m but was able to hold on to her in the last episode and take her to his body. The explanation is simple. Lee da il was a pure ghost the first time he touched sunwoo hye. She was evil while at that point he couldn't touch anything. It was painful for him to even touch her. Therr were too many variables as well. The first time it was sunwoo who was disappearing. In the last episode lee da il had been corrupted by the powers he had gained and so was able to touch her and keep hold of her. Also sunwoo was weak. Like gil chae won said, she was AB to ghost meaning a universal donor. When her abilities disappeared, so did her AB blood group meaning that sunwoo faced what we call in medical terms a tranfusion reaction due to mismatched blood. That weakened her beyond belief. Some people were incredulous about the whole poison the drinks to cause a mass murder. But in my opinion when you keep in mind that sunwoo is a 12 year old, it made perfect sense. Her ability to change clothes? She can simply control people and take their clothes. She doesnt even have to kill them for it. She can stay in different houses and the owners wouldn't even remember the next day. I hope i have answered most of the doubts viewers might be having.

i choose to believe that it was a happy ending. See the thing is, in the realm of fantasy anything is possible. In the realm of fantasy the rules are not so rigid. Being an avid reader, i have read so many books under the fantasy genre where ghosts become human, vampires become humans, people travel to the past, people have super powers. Even in kdramas like goblin and angel's last mission we saw impossible things happen. So why cant Lee Da Il become human again? I choose to believe that because his sacrifice was so noble, he was given a second chance and eventually he'll become human. He came back to the real world after he heard yeo wool's voice but he stayed away from her to give her a chance at a living normal life. But they found each other again. He was the most selfless hero i have seen in a long time and it is my belief that his selflessness was rewarded in the end. He'll become a human eventually and his ability to travel in between worlds will ensure that they won't have to make another sacrifice to get rid of ghosts. So in the end i will rate the drama a 9/10 despite its imperfections because i enjoyed it and it made me smile.

Here's to hoping that someone decides to cast these talented leads in another drama, preferably another mystery thriller. Loved them together.

They should have aired this on ocn. This show was never meant to be for tvn. They should also bring do kang woo back. They have an opportunity here to make an iconic crime fighting duo.

You're not the only one hoping they bring do kang woo back. I loved the dynamic he and kang center had. They could have kept him on and made the duo as iconic as many other crime fighting duos for example partick jane and Teresa lisbon from the mentalist. Im still hoping that they end this season with a hint that do kang is alive especially considering that majority of the viewers want him back. I dont think that by bringing back ONE character will turn this show into the next penthouse especially considering that there are lots of cases where people survived a bullet to the head (even at point blank range). So yeah lets make enough noise for the makers to bring him back and for the show to be back on its original channel. This is not a tvn show. Never was.

I completely agree with you. Romanticization of mental health was one of the reasons why i dropped it's okay not to be okay. Im a doctor and even though im not specialized in psychiatry, i do have some knowledge of it and i simply couldn't understand why ko mun yeong's aspd seemed to revolve around her being savage. Thats it. Its not the actress who's at fault but the makers. Aspd is not being 'savage' or being 'cool'. Also anothet thing that bothered me was how they dealt with the sleep paralysis part. Sleep paralysis cant disappear just because you're next to someone you love *facepalm*
Even though kill me heal me wasn't perfect but i felt that it tackled mental illness better

I cant be the only one hoping that they end this season with do kang woo's return from the dead? We dont know if he truly is dead now do we? I just loved the dynamic between the two leads in season 2 and 3. While season 4 is epic, i still want do kang woo to be alive

This was such a good drama. When a show has a good and satisfying ending, i usually dont ask for a season 2 but with this show I would really like another season. Also this show reminded me of one of my all time favourite book series which is lockwood and co by jonathan stroud. Fans of this show should give those books a read too.
My only gripe was that i wished they had included atleast one haunted mansion case lol :P like the one at the very end, i wish we could have seen a case like that instead of just a hint of it in the ending scene.

I mean its not like i asked you to read it lol :P

A) i never reported your comment
B) what comment?
C) just because other people agree with you makes you right? Okay kid whatever helps you sleep at night

.....umm okay im gonna try and make it nice and simple, since im now convinced that are you below the age of 15.
1. "concentrating on each word and leaving behind the main meaning". I really had a good laugh reading this. Good job, i needed a good laugh :P we are on a site where fhe only means of communication is through the words we write via phones or computers. Obviously im going to concentrate on the words you write, what else am i supposed to concentrate on? Now moving onto the next part (since you know i love concentrating on the words lol seriously how old are you?) Apparently i did not see the main meaning behind your classy criticism of the main actress (if that sounded sarcastic to you I'd like to tell you that yes, yes it was) so what main meaning am i missing here? The original comment writes one or two sentences about the acting and the rest is all about the way she looks, her hairstyle, that shes unhygienic etc. You then proceed to say you agree. No, you dont say "i dont agree about the part regarding her face im only talking about her acting". No dear child. What you do is agree with everything the original comment said and then proceed to write a hate filled rant against the actress, not even once mentioning her acting. The first time you mentioned her acting was when i called you out. But instead of accepting that your choice of words was poor you defend yourself by now bringing in her acting.
2- So you think that because this is a western site, the actress will never read these comments and hence any hate or spite filled rant is perfectly okay. Did i get that right? I wouldn't want to be accused of judging people or being told to read again after all. Oh and the highlight! Im Apparently the hero! So does that make you the villain? Oh how adorable (no seriously how old are you? 12? 13? 14? Cant be older than that) any way, that is your come-back. Okay first of all we dont live in a world without internet. If i can see the comments and you can see the comments, you think the people acting in the show cant? I mean they read comments on Instagram which is social media app created by the west. Youtube is also western. So basically your argument is that because this is western site, the actress wont read it and so you can write whatever you want. Nice. Real classy of you. What if the actress does read the comments? Imagine yourself working, it can be any job and you hear someone bash you like this. Your comment wasnt even constructive criticism! Like how was that comment going to help anyone? Take my advice and say everything you said to this actress to a loved one. Tell them they dont have the features to do whatever job it is that they are doing. Tell them they make you go ewwwwwww. If you cant say what you are writing to a loved one, then dont write it. Words can hurt and cause irreparable damage. People like sulli, go hara and many others are examples.
3- what makes you think an idol could have done better than an actress who was in an oscar winning movie? Also by your logic because im calling you out on your comment, i should be her fanclub president? How did you even connect those dots?
4- you know what seems cringey and disgusting? Your comments. Its obvious that you know you were in the wrong but you dont want to admit it. Well fine. Dont. Cuz Apparently it is perfectly normal to say that cringey people are disgusting. Listen here child, disgust is a very strong word. And when you use it for another human, the reason should definitely be stronger than "ewwwww they make me cringe!"

You can either learn from this or stay adamant and continue fighting. And if you came to this show only to watch idol actors and hate on the one who isnt an idol, maybe you shouldnt have watched it in the first place. Now before you accuse me of judging you, you literall said "I'm rooting to it since alot of lovely idols are there, they're doing great each" and followed by "they literally brought everyone who are originally idols why did they not do the same with her ?????"
Ive said all i had to. Good day to you.

Read properly? Judging people? The original comment literally says "i really cannot stand the face of the main lead girl" to which YOUR comment replied with "omg someone finally spit that out, thats my opinion as well". Then you went on to say she does not have the features of an idol. Also that she disgusted you. If english is not your first language then fine i can understand it, but the words you used do not describe acting. They desribe the appearance. Acting can be bad but not disgusting. Features are about a person's appearance. I did not assume anything or judge anything. Your entire comment is a hate rant on a girl working hard in a show. If she wasnt talented, you think the renowned director of parasite would have chosen her? If you dont like the show atleast be respectful about it. You would not like people talking about you this way would you? Dont say the words that you wouldn't like to be said about yourself. And her personality is not the character she is paying. Stop hating an actor because of the character.

And what features is an idol supposed to have? Please do tell all of us since you're such an expert and all. The only thing disgusting here is this comment and the people up voting it. If you hate the female lead's face that much, something she has no control over, then you are a sick person

Bad does not mean trash. Bad is subjective. Bad means one did not like the ending and would have liked it to end another way. Bad means i wont rewatch it or recommend it because it made ME feel bad. Trash means im insulting the drama. Bad ending means something else. It just means the ending wasn't good enough for me. Bad means it could have been better. I never used the word trash here. OP didnt either. This is my opinion. You can like tragic endings. I dont. So for me this drama had a bad ending

I say tragic=bad. If a drama does not leave me with happiness or hope and only makes me feel heavy or sad, then i dont like it. I see enough of death in my profession. And what i hate above all is watching the characters going through one hardship after another and getting nothing in the end. Why cant the world of fiction deviate from the sad realities of the world? I don't know about you but i watch dramas for an escape. Not to see the same realities i saw all day. As for the original comment above, i believe the "they deserved a better ending " was meant for th4 characters.

Yeah i agree with you. It seems to be an annoying trend in many dramas (not just korean).

Like take for example chicago typewriter. That too talked about a time in korean history that had a lot of tragedies. But what I liked about the show was that it showed us hope. That even though the freedom fighters lost their lives for the cause, they were reincarnated and got to see the fruits of their efforts and were able to once again reunite with their love. That even though their love was doomed in their previous lives, they found it again in the next life. That was hope and happiness. Im just so tired of writers choosing to end shows on a tragic note. It simply isnt necessary. We have seen enough death and sadness in our lives, especially in this pandemic. Do we really need to see it in the fictional world of dramas?