AshesandDust

Thanks for understanding my point :) also your article was great (though i havent watched some of the shows here being more of a action thriller fan) and i know now to stay away from some of these shows :P

Yes i definitely understood the point you were conveying with the article and i know this is a huge issue. Given the burning sun scandal in korea and similar cases all around the world. I mentioned the part about rape because while filming a consensual moment without one of the involved the parties knowing is definitely a horrible crime, but the fact that the character in this particular drama was raped and filmed made it even more heinous. Then she had to face people like the prosecutor who were bringing back the memory of that traumatic experience without any regard to her. It just made the whole thing so much more worse. Because the boyfriend not only raped her, but filmed it. That's a lot more different as compared to say what happened in taxi driver (which was also horrible)

No no, it was definitely not consensual. They very clearly mention that. The video he had recorded, the video he had used to blackmail her was one and the same and it was of him raping her. There's never any mention of it being consensual. The prosecution tried to make it seem like it was consensual but the character herself finally breaks down and says it took her this long to realize it was rape because she couldn't believe that someone she loved and who claimed to love her back could do this to her. There's never any mention of any other consensual moment. The moment discussed is the one recorded in the video. The boyfriend himself always calls it "that night" clearly indicating that it was the one and only time. I know all of this for sure because i have watched the drama twice.
I think you should watch it again because there were two major parts of the entire case:
1) proving it was rape and not consensual and filmed without her knowledge
2) proving self defense when she pushed him.

There is one thing you need to correct in your article. In law school, what the boyfriend recorded was how he raped his girlfriend. The entire point of the case was proving that it was rape. A gynecologist was even brought into the court room to testify how it was rape and not consensual. I don't understand how you could have missed that

Resisting the urge to watch this because i have to wait till it ends in order to binge. The reviews aren't helping either :P im hoping it ends well (i hate tragic endings and avoid them at all costs)

I have seen reply 1994 and a bit of reply 19888. I can appreciate that the series are well made and that they incorporate the important years really well, but i tend to watch action thrillers. So it's simply not my preferred genre. I tend to get bored if there's no thrill or action. Even though reply 1994 was well made and the pair I was shipping was the final pair, i found myself skipping a lot of it. And the little i saw of reply 1988 showed that the tone would be the same. So me not watching the show has nothing to do with thinking it's not good, its just not for me (also not a teenager, as i mentioned in my comment above, i am doctor so late 20s)

I don't mean to come across as rude or anything but....why would you watch a show that was never promoted or tagged as romance? I mean everyone knew that this was going to be an action thriller, any chemistry between the characters would be cherry on top. Im just saying if romance is such a must for you, maybe not watch shows that aren't tagged as such?

Shows I haven't watched (and have no plans to either):
Reply 1988
Reply 1997
Mr. Queen
Hometown cha cha
Put your head on my shoulder
Boys over flowers
Fight for my way
My Id is gangnam
Alice in the borderland
The legend of the blue sea

The shows that i will watch eventually are flower of evil, someday or one day and D.P.

Shows i havent yet decided whether to watch or not are itaewon class and Dr. Romantic S1 & 2. (Mainly because they are so different from the genre i usually watch but sound kinda interesting. The dr. Romantic series because im a doctor and itaewon class because people who liked my mister recommend it)

I loved hot stove league too! Ive been a namgoong min fan for some time now but this show made me appreciate his acting even more.
Regarding the devil judge, i actually considered dropping it at episode 7. Then i put it on hold and watched some other shows (my beautiful bride, rewatched my mister for the 4th time). But then I was like "come on, it's ji sung, you gotta at least finish it" which is why i am now currently watching it and at episode 12. It's not bad to be honest but i fee like we could have done without jinyoung's character as a whole. This isn't criticism on his acting. He does well with what he's given but like you said, most of it seems like forced conflict just to make something similar to beyond evil. Also while the show was airing i read all these comments about the chemistry between yohan and sung ah and i just....don't see it. She's definitely someone to be pitied but i don't see any chemistry between them. Nothing beyond the usual protagonist vs antagonist dynamic. My biggest issue is what they have done with judge oh. The small moment we had with yohan teaching her to dance showed the adorable chemistry between the two actors. I feel like the show would have been better off with yohan and judge oh as the mains. But this is just my opinion and again im not hating any of the actors involved in the drama. They've done well
This drama gives me slight "the purge" vibes and i like the purge movies (not all though)

Im surprised people are even asking who he ends up with when this isnt even a love triangle. To quote from the drama, do hyung is a straight forward ruler. He loves one person and will do so for the remainder of his life.

If you are planning on watching this show, you should know that the male lead is completely and wholly devoted to his bride. And she to him. The detective is no second lead. I have crossed the half mark and i find the love story very poignant. It just takes your breath away. However the love story is told mostly in flashbacks since the bride is missing and our male lead is looking for her. This is not romantic drama in the sense dramas of that genre are. This is a action thriller, this tackles certain dark subjects. The romance is there since obviously do hyung's love for joo young is the reason why he's willing to search the ends of the earth for her. But that's not all there is. I personally love the show so far

I started watching this drama and im currently more than halfway through it. Since i have seen that much i can clearly say there is absolutely NO chemistry between the detective and do hyung. I have absolutely no idea why people here shipped them in the first place. It would have destroyed the show for me if the makers tried to make them a couple. I love both the leads together. I do not find the female lead annoying, not in the slightest. What does annoy me is how the vast majority of comments under any kdrama are "the FL is so annoying". Joo young spent most of her life hiding herself. That's literally her character. She hid her poverty from her classmates in high school. She hid her past from do hyung. I can understand why she would run away once she knew that everything had been revealed to the one person she was desperately keeping it from. I cant even imagine what many women like her who are forced into human trafficking must go through. Living with the constant fear of someone finding out about their past. I completely understand and empathise with the female lead. In no way is she 'annoying', retarded, or moronic. She's human and she's terrified. She's been through a lot. People commenting here with a lack of empathy for her (and other similar characters we see in other dramas like law school) need to try and imagine what it would be like.
So if anyone is hesitating to watch this drama because of these comments or because they fear they'll get second female lead syndrome, stop what you are doing and watch the show. There's not SLS here. Decide for yourselves. So far this show is getting an 8.5/10 from me.

Ah is that how it works? My bad :P in that case i watched the heirs though i skipped quite a bit of it. but well for the rest i definitely havent seen the shows they are in

I feel like she definitely went from anti hero to antagonist when we keep in mind all that happened in kingdom s1 and s2. So many innocent lives lost. I feel like for ashin its just collateral damage. So until we get another season of kingdom, I'm gonna think of ashin as the antagonist.

Personally i havent been able to get into any drama that has:
1)son ye jin: i can see that she's a good actress but the plotlines of her shows aren't my thing. Waiting for her to be in the kind of show i like to watch

2) song joonki: somehow regardless of what role he plays, all i see is him and his somewhat baby face. Also he lacks a menacing air in Vincenzo which is why i couldn't watch it and dropped it. In innocent man i felt like the female lead overpowered him in terms of acting and i ended up dropping that too. He was fine in dots, the only show with that i was able to complete. But i didn'tparticularly like that show either(obviously this is only my opinion, he's popular and many people like his acting)

3) lee minho: his acting gets redundant. Every time i try to watch a show with him in it, i get the distinct feeling that im not seeing the character but the actor behind the character. I wish he would lose himself in a role just once. But he doesn't do that. He's always poised, his crying face more artistic than an actual show of emotions. And thing is, i do see that he has potential because I'll catch a glimpse of something but it'll be gone within a few seconds. He simply does not 'become' the character.

4)Kim soo hyun: im going to try his new upcoming drama One Ordinary Day, but i havent been able to get into his shows till now.

5)Shin se kyung: I just avoid her shows. She really needs to improve her acting.

6)Cha eun woo: same goes for him. He needs to improve and a lot at that. I cant feel any of the emotions his character is supposed to be feeling

Well i mean technically jun ji hyun plays an antagonist in ashin of the North

Its really amazing how people have such differing opinions. If you look at it, its kind of interesting how human minds despite belonging to the same species can like or dislike completely different things. I just find the human mind so fascinating! For example, my mom and sisters absolutely loved crash landing on you but couldn't get past the first the episode of my mister. While i loved my mister and couldn't really watch crash landing on you. Its really thought provoking how such differences exist even in the same family

Poor child has so many issues that they lash out and attack another person's professional and personal life to make themselves feel better. Dear, please stop. All this aggression and bitterness isn't good for you. Have a good day (or not since you might actually take offense to be saying that as well given your childish responses). We all have better stuff to do

I take overhated shows to mean those shows it has become almost mainstream to hate on when they really aren't that bad. Keeping that in mind, i really do think stranger, Beyond evil and voice do not belong here.

....you know from your comment it actually sounds like you are the one who's 11 since you obviously did not comprehend what i wrote. Why? Were the words too difficult for you to understand? Lol. A kid is telling me to read a book. Why dont you take your own advice and while you are at it, re read my comment and try to understand what i wrote? Cuz im pretty sure i said that simply because you disliked a show does not make it "terrible". Im not in the least interested in what you have to say when you cant even spell how correctly. Im not from the entertainment industry, i am in fact a doctor and i have no interest in the process of drama making so spare me the analysis. You don't like the drama? Great. Good for you. But you are no authority on good or bad scripts. Get over yourself.