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Finally ended. And it ended well. From the first to the last, this drama is just perfect. I did complain about the so many villains and evil plots against the ML & FL side, and that FL since early on seemed to be not helpful, but then as the story goes, we get to see that it all meant to be developed that way. It seemed like they had to face it all to end up the way it ended. And it just perfect. Everything is well executed, the casts are all great both main and support roles, they do excellent work in bringing out the characters they played, no overdo. The story line is also great, the pace is excellent. This is one of the best drama I have ever watched so far. This is a must watch drama for them who like this kind of genre.

Agree with everything except that she cared about her daughter. She did not. She said that her daughter will be happy IF she is happy. This is not a sign of caring mother. In her plots to destroy her legitimate husband, she involved Da Bin, without even thinking of her safety, she even got her really killed with her once in her failed plot to murder Seo Jin. She's a sick person not fit to be mother or proper wife. So...yea no pitty for her at all, no matter how hard the writers tried to redeemed her and Do Gyun....they both just beyond hope to the very end.

Hc got what she deserved, just because you are a victim of something bad in the past, does not grant you a right to hurt even plotting murders. After all the things she did, especially things she did using her own child that end up bad everytime for her and knowing that Do Gyun do nothing to make sure the child safety and well being is a top priority, I have lost every sympathy for this murderous creature as first we always though she might has her reason for things she did. And when it finally comes to light....she is as bad as of not even worse than her dad. She deaerves no pitty at all. She deserves it. And it is too good for her to lose her love slave Do Gyun. She needa to experience every misery and pain she had put every one through. See she hurt that Do Gyun over and over, left him to be married to Seo Jin, and that ready to dicth him and leave him behind, now she gets to feel all the things the man had been feeling. And now she gets to feel how awful it is to have your life destroyed just the way she did to Seo Jin and others, what to pitty actually from her? If she realized her mistakes and repentant, we may pitty her a little, but even at the very end she only felt guilty toward Do Gyun....how about her daughter and Seo Jin? Ugh....I hate this kind of character the most....evil mother, cheating wife...ugh.

Share the sentiment here. They are both mentally sick, they don't even care about Da Bin's happiness at all. They've been using her and dragging her in their every filthy scenario without even thinking of her safety and well being. I wish for the worst ending for these two jerks. They don't deserve any pitty at all and Seo-Jin should never had a pitty toward such a woman who over and over again put his daughter's life in danger. Let her be with her slave Do Gyun to the very end with their unhealthy love live in everlasting bitterness ( i know it's too much of an idea, but dead is too easy for them)

Yea, she must have some mental issue that causing her to be that kind of evil person. But it was not just her, Do Gyun himself is having issues, what he thought as love is not love, it's kind of obsession of his part and manipulating on Hyun Chae's part. They are dependent on each other to fullfeel their emotional needs. Do Gyun think and make her the central of his life to the point he would do anything at all cost for her. While for her, he's not juat a tool but a toyboy to play around with. They both don't even think and care about the child at all. That involving her in a dangerous plot that cost her life. This is the most selfish and horrifying part of this series that we might overlook. They don't care at all about Da Bin's well being and safety, and keep using her to push Seo Jin to the edge. No normal mother would do that to her child. No mother would use her little girl to plot agains her husband. Like plan the kidnapping and schemed her 'death' and then her 'suicide' itself is already a bizzare thing to do since Seo Jin is not a bad father after all. He's a loving father with all his lackings and he realised that later as we saw him trying to make it up for them. I just don't wish a good ending or even a cliff hanger ending for these child abusers. They think they do a good thing for her while in fact they're abusing her rights to have and be with her own father. I hate these kind of characters and wish all the worst possible end for them. Ugh.

Agree with you, too many antagonists with their own plots. And we still don't know why Seo Jin's wife wanted him dead so much and what's the connection with her father. If she just wanted to run away from his father who seek revenge on her for burning him, why she need to kill Seo Jin and plan to run away with the other man. Do Gyun obsession with her is not something impossible, there are kinds of person like that, who will even enslave themselves to the one they think they love. And her manipulating him is understandable, but to kill her own husband who provided for her and her child? Wanted to claim his inheritance, like not learning from her own past mistake, she failed to kill her own dad, and now even she thought she's that smart, she still stupid enough ending up killing herself and her girl, while Seo Jin is saved. It just so frustrating seeing these evils getting more airtime. Maybe the point of this sfory is the so many twists and antagonists the two musf face, but it makes the story become too complicated to enjoy.

I just don't understand why they have to kill the female characters just because of the "bromance" thing. I mean the horse bandit leader is a likeable character, she's a tought and independent person and she made a good team with the MLs as a friend or even sister, she does not necessarily has any entangled romantic feeling for both of them, it was a suggestion made by that centurion girl and she even said that "what is wrong with being a female warrior", that centurion girl was trying to persuade her that she must have feeling for either one of the ML, but it does not have to be necessarily so. It just a lame that her character should die like that. Ugh i hate it already they unecessarily killed women characters in untamed, now here also...it's not just so not necessary to do so.

The story could be better if the humor is not too cringe. The MLs are great, the female characters are good too, I won't compare it to Sleuth of Ming Dynasty because I would give this one a bad rate except for some of the characters and the cinematography. It is worth to watch though, it's not a boring one actually. I usually really watch the first few episodes before dropping, but I did not drop this after 3rd episode because yeah it's not bad. Eventhough the actor is really good and the chemistry also great, but I don't like the fact that Jing Yao is just too easy to be threatened that he would give up important informations. I mean he actually coudl do some martial arts and that he's a constable lol. That is one reason why I can not compare it with Sleuth of Ming Dynasty. His character is just awkward sometimes. He did not do anything while being ambushed by the bandits who mistaken them as centurion's soldiers. He just sat there like a fool not even help anyone and then if he was shocked he did not look like a shocked person either. That is what I meant by his character sometimes just awkward. But the actor did a great job portraying Jing Yao. And good to see him, I saw him in Love and Destiny and like his character there. Good to see him having a lead role here.

Yes, I guess you got a point there. But it just not make sense, I mean especially when she was told she was going to die that night at that place where she witness herself the wife going into. If she died there, it must be related to the wife. Remember the wife did not get murdered, she was just presumed dead of suicide, but no body was found. And it is not telling bad thing about someone's wife if your just telling the fact of the situation, that she saw her coming into th every apartment she supposed to die. Maybe Seo Jin will start to look into people around her wife. Remember the purpose of Seo Jin is to safe his daughter and his wife. To prevent them from whatever happened to them to take place. That piece of information will put Seo Jin on high alert that someone around her wife is dangerous not necessarily for hin to suspect his wife since to him she's innocent anyway. And yes you're right that this is just a drama, lol, they just keep tickling us with things like this and we can't help ourselves but to comment on every bit that tickled us. Lol. Hope today episode will bring us some light of what happenes ib the past since Ae Ri found her mom.

Yea, can't wait...what's coming next for Seo Jin and Ae Ri.

Hey Duncan ^^

I think it possible that way, I think that the old man in the company has something to do with all what happened, since it is quite strange that he kept telling Seo Jin off from work and gave the work to Do Gyun then abruptly gave the once troubled project to Seo Jin. He must having something to do with everything that happening. And given the fact Seo Jin is the youngest director, I agree with you, i think he's being manipulated somehow due to the trauma. This is going to be interesting indeed, I hope it remains so to the end.

Hey Duncan, yea you're right on the wife being manipulative psycho, and after hearing her saying that her daughter will be happy if she's happy, it kind of making all the comments about her motivation about protecting herself and the child invalid to me, since her daughter even plead with her to not throwing tantrum is they could just go home seeing dad, and her answer to her was not the kind of answer a loving mom would give. Seo Jin might be a total workaholic man but he clearly love his daughter. He being like that must have something to do with that incident, and it keep haunting him, so it is just impossible for him to do things the wrong way which would risk the same thing to happen again. The thing is why everyone around him is back stabbing him knowing his story? What makes them hates him so much to let themselves doing all those crazy stuffs.

I think though Seo Jin did not tell her who died, but she got all the cues she needed to prevent bad thing happened to her mother, it is different with her not telling him at all, not even a clue. She already knew something just that important but kept it to herself while it seems like she was the one who needs help from Seo Jin instead of him needing her to find her daughter and rescue her. The only thing we see is her giving a toy doll with tracker for the girl and that's it. She even failed to convince Seo Jin in her timeline despite Seo Jin's request to find any way to convince him. That's fruatrating thing to watch. And gosh why his wife want to do that to him?yea I agree with you that she wants to push him to the edge since he already having anxiety issue. And we got hints that they fought alot.

And it would be too much creepy if they made him like that. But yea to survive for 31 days under heavy brinks of a big construction was crazy. They must have at one point survived together, and I think, he must have saved Ae Ri's father because they werr together and i think Ae Ri's father was badly injured. He must have died of the wounds at some point. But what is that connection with those crazy trio tried to kill Ae Ri and her mom? And why they tried so hard to make Seo Jin a guilty man? Seo Jin was a victim and it was his first day working that thing happened to him and no onr knows what happened between him and Ae Ri's father, even Seo Jin doesn't know who that man was.

But in all the story is intense from the very beginning and it keeps you want to see more. So the frustrations we got are meant to be in a good way for us to keep watching, they even only launched an episode splitted in two each week, lol just to pissed ua off. But even I'm pissed off I'm curious even more..so hopefully it all paid off and that the story will keep being intense and interesting with a satisfying ending. And I really wish a good ending for Seo Jin after all he's going through. Shin Sung Rok is an amazing actor, he delivers his character well. Lee Se Young also good here, better than in Memorist. But yea they all do a good job here.

Can't believe his own wife did that to him. And to hear her saying to her toy Dae Gyun about her daughter must be happy if she's happy...wow that's coming from a mother?
Though I really couldn't get the feel for Ae Ri yet up to now, at least she's caring and doing everything she can to help, the problem she did not do much for him, she's hiding the fact she knew that Hyun Chae was having a affair behind Seo Jin's back, that information could really help Seo Jin to at least suspect there's something fishy in his daughter and wife cases or at least looking into her wife's missing body after the presumed suicide. She got all worked up when it comes to her mom or her dad, and having Seo Jin to get all the information he could to help her....what about her helping by telling him something is not right about his wife? Ught it frustrates me lol. But I really like Seo Jin's character. What a man! Hopefully he get good ending and getting back her daughter (it doesn't matter if she's not his, the most important thing is that he is her father and she is his daughter and she missed him, even promised her crazy mom that she would not throwing a tantrum if she could just going back home to see her dad, that is super sweet). And Ae Ri, sure hopefully there will be happy ending for her too and her mom and friends, hope she get to know what happened to her dad.

That's what my thought is, he probably the first one to be infected, it must be something to do with the box he carried to be handes over to SK for exchange to be defectes to SK with his wife and daughter? He and SYR Mom were researcher at nuclear facility, so NK probably doing some research that went wrong resulting in that thing. But the target in the 6th episode turned out to be SK soldier, and he probably the commander of 1997 team who was shot dead by Lee Hyuk?the thing is we he might be YDJ's father :( that's make the story even more interesting. Can't wait for the next ones.

Probably, as I think it was Jo Min-Kook the commander who was looking at the pic of his wife and son while the team taking a break in the river. YDJ must be the son of that man or else that scene would not be necessary. Lee Hyuk the coward must be the one who shot his father dead to cover up his mess for cowardly shot the NK soldiers withour warrant or command.

I think you get it wrong about sergeant Yong's father being Lee Hyuk. At the min 35:33 episode 5, Song Min Gyu was asking someone over the phone about Lee Joon Sung. And if we're looking at names, Lee Joon Sung is the son of Lee Hyuk instead of Yong Dong Jin. Yong Dong Jin definitely son of one of the soldiers in 1997 mission (probably the one who in episode 1 was looking at the picture of his wife and child while resting) or maybe someone else, we'll get to see that. Hopefully his father not the 'turned monster' thing, it would be crazy to watch him killed his own father in the end. And about the attack, it seems like this mutant only attacking soldiers because he's not totally losing his human memory, he was a soldier, and he possibly one of the soldiers from the 1997 mission that being executed by his own team members to cover up the mess, or he was the original kind of 'patient zero' of the north korean military research who we saw driving car with the box and then crashed (he probably Son Ye Rim's father?) As the woman defector with baby looked like waiting for someone in the riverside, but the man was mutating while driving and crashed his car. And by the look at his clothes he wears the same clothes that NK man wearing (like the NK military uniform). So it's too early to draw conclusion, we need to see how the plot going in next episodes.

Found it quite troublesome with the ML play way too big role in investigations that supposed to be the role of the detectives, they have many detectives there and they seem quite capable yet the writer make a big deal of a M.E going around doing the detective work. The title is supposed to be about M.E who 'listening' to the dead body on his autopsy table, but we can only see he did that on the first episode, while the rest of the episodes he ia more like a detective than a M.E, to compare with similar drama like Partners for Justice, the M.E male lead really do his job as a forensic investigator who do his job and let the detectives/prosecutors a head up for doing their job. Here the FL as a 'veteran' detective overshadowed by ML as he actually do moat of the critical thinking and work FL supposed to do.

FL here is a huge disappointment, she does not show herself as a 'veteran detective' and someone experienced in solving cases. All she does is giving commands and doing job like any other detectives. Nothing special at all about her character that we can acknowledge no matter how other charcters saying about her. She talk alot about her 'instinct' but even some to be true she could not figure out who is the culprit withour ML lead on that. And she's the most confusing character, she's suspicious of ML being the murderer just based on a hunch and composite picture of a suspect that match with ML and also a photograph of the ML among other people on the time of supposed crime happened. Just with those lead she do her investigative works which we did not see at all she's doing that when she is sent to the station where ML as her suspect is working. All we see is she's just runing here and there while the cases basically solved by ML and the team. She jumped into conclusion pretty fast and then just follow ML when her conclusion is just wrong. And then when her senior getting in trouble she firmly believes him at all cost even asking the commander to get rid of ML from investigating because again she believes the ML is a murderer even after working with him for sometimes and she supposed to do her invetigative work, she must have known him or at leas do a little profiling on him, but she didn't. She wanted the ML to investigate thoroughly for his senior to prove his innocence but she never do that with other suspects and ML, all she got on others just hunch, instinct and just that. Then all of sudden she believed in his judgments?kind of make no sense character for me, kind of a lame character as she easily change her mind. And suspecting fellow man in arm who she watched and worked behind his back without any proper investigative work is just insane. And then the romantic feelings?how insane that is. No sane man would especially someone in the force would do that to their partner, not without strong lead and evidence to suspect at least. And her motivation also is all wrong from the beginning, not for the sake of finding the truth but for her 'shifu' aka Commander who wants the mummy murder case to be solved before his retirement. This is all wrong. And even worse it seems like everyone of their team is trying to matchmaking them and they out of the blue develop such feelings towards each other but the chemistry is just not there. It's awkward and feelong forced. It is really a disappointment as they could make her character better if they want to bring out a strong smart and ass kicking FL. FL character here is a just a failure despite the actress really doing a good job portraying FL. I prefer to watch some Korean crime dramas with strong FL detectives or police officer, they mostly do grat job with portraying such a strong, independent, smart and even ass kicking FL and even without romance we can get the feeling of partnership, strong bond, and good vibes between the leads. Why bother adding unnecessary awkward romance, it just spoiled the story. Must skip alot of that kind of scenes.

But afterall the story line of cases are good and the skit make making this drama interesting. Kudos to the team work here, like everyone really taking part and not just a running errand characters. It is still worth to watch thanks to FL and the team.

Why they cast a too young actress to be a "veteran" detective? And they don't give a back story of why she's called veteran like how maby cases Bixin has solved to make her being called so by Ming Chuan. And to be realistic she's not even showing herself to be brilliant enough to take on the investigation suspecting Ming Chuan, and even het sifu in episode 8 told her not to investigate based ob hunch alone, but by proper investigation i.e facts and evidences, but she insisting on that. Yet, when Ming Chuab do so, not just a hunch but actually by properly following a thinking through process, she kept being the one to question his judgment at the same time letting him be the one to do the work she supposed to do being a detective, Ming Chuan is a medical examiner not a detective yet he does better than her at being detective. You see her letting him do all that and she being the one to keep suspicious of him?make no sense at all. And the romance part ugh it is just too forced, why everyone seems to push it over between them, the chemistry is as good as beibg work partners not a romance at all. He shows nothing at all but being professional but everyone is matchmaking them is just 'doh. She's being q detective investigating Ming Chuan at the sane time it is Ming Chuan who do the detective work for her, and she's brilliant and a vet at detective work?smh. It is a shame, they could do better job in developing her character as one brilliant detective. And the thing with her investigating him behind his back is just blood boiling no matter how the story develop or end up with. She should never do so, even if she has to do that, is there something called internall affairs department in police force to do so?not a crime unit job to investigate a police when there are no clear evidence or facts to do so. Why she's doing that is just beyond logic. I love more about the team work, that it is not only her, but the other team members actually doing police work nicely and she's just part of that team. Not a dominant one if to say she's a vet who good at her job. The whole show is good except her character, but the actress do a good job though portraying her. If this show is trying to tell about smart and good kick ass female police officer well they failed. I would love the ones from Signal and Nobody Knows, tell me what you saw, those are where you see how good the drama portraying women as though police officers.

It's better than 1st seaspn, though the FL still same old same old jumpinh into conclusions without thinking every time, though she's less nossy than 1st season. Now they make her like a support role instead of the main lead. And what the hell with prosecutors doing all the detective jobs here and their investigators are more like side kicks, the police detectives are more like running errand boys. Eventhough this is just a fiction, they should not switch the main job of each department, it left out the police work and putting each person from the prosecutor office to do the police work seems just off the line. So instead of making this prosecutor-crime scene inverstigator drama, they should make this police work instead that would make more sense,why bother making the whole office of a prosecutor playing detective themselves and at the same time doing the court works? It just silly and stupid

I just don't understand how can a bright kind and cheerful character is depcited this way for FL. I mean she's a prosecutor she must know better not to mention she herself said she watch American CSI drama, yet on her very own first case, as a top of her class, she ruined the crime scene, being overboard emotional almost impulsive, and she talks without even thinking, jumping into her own conclusion in a blink of an eye, and the worst part is how she behave in a courtroom with her full blown prejudice against the defendant, I mean even if you have your own conviction it doesn't mean you have to boast it out loud in the court room without evidence to support it. And even more crazy for a smart intelligent prosecuter as the drama trying to portray her, she's just spill out too many nonsense even a child wouldn't do. Question like "is a corpse can get old?" , seriously? And the detective, oh my, why they portray a detective like that with a mouth running faster than his brain. Not to mention the ML who seems to only know one line to address his coworkers "get out!", he's great but gosh he even pray before conducting outopsy but hell it is team work also, he needs assistance but treating them like crap is just mind blowing. It should be a good drama, with good story line but not for the characters of the leads, they are unbearable to watch tbh.

The FL being a police is a "case" herself with the over 20 years historyof stalking and shamelessly called the person she stalked as a jerk while in constant need of his opinion and cooperation. Whatever your reason to stalka person as a police who of all people should know the law best, stalking someone is unlawful act. And it is rather weird that she finds herself falling in love with the man, I mean her action itself is case of obsessive behaviour, it is not love but obsessiveness, period. But yeah beyond that she's not at all bad because she is the FL police detective after all. But there are many FL characters in such kind of Korean dramas that are strong, independent, smart, the ass kicking FL characters who are really captivating. I rather like this kind of drama with minimal to no romance at all, but well I don"t mind it either as long as it's not bringing the drama out of focus. Anyway, despite the character she played Jang Nara is always cute and eye catching.

Over all this is a fine drama with unique story line. It's not the best but it is worth watching. Kudos for the castings who really did a good job playing the characters well especially the MLs.