WomanWonderer89

I also really enjoyed this show and I loved the casting and performances of the actors who portrayed Minase and Hirawa. The show overall was great, and although sad and tragic at times, was beautifully executed. However, Minase's friends were really annoying and irrelevant to me. They really can't comprehend that gay or bisexual people exist in Japan and that it isn't just a Western concept? Why did they act so shocked and confused when Hirawa was testing the waters regarding outing his relationship with Minase to them? That part really irked me. Also, Hirawa's mother sucked ass, and was just as bad and guilty to Hirawa as her drunkard abusive ex-husband.

It does have a happy ending for everyone. But Pat, the boss's (Elyes) assistant barely has a backbone in the show which really aggravated me. In the end, I did like it but I don' think it is worth a re-watch and it would have been better if Pat put his foot down and made Elyse really work and put more of an effort into their relationship in the end. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, I do not like that Run ended up with Feigh Long. Their relationship makes no sense to me and I don't get how we are supposed to understand and root for their toxic love when in comparison, Elyse was the much better and healthier choice for him.

MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS: I just finished the show and will say it wasn't bad. I enjoyed it but I did not love it. Although I did enjoy the main lead's performances and didn't mind their acting, I did wish their chemistry was more fiery and passionate. James, who plays Elyes, is very good at being charming and sexy but lacks in his performance regarding his emotional scenes of being scared or vulnerable. And I didn't mind Kad who plays Pat at all. I just really wish he emoted more. He used the same sheepish, shy smiles and facial expressions WAY too often. I love it when actors can be expressive with not only their faces but also their body language as it really adds to the character they are portraying and sells their performances to the audience. There were slightly too many sex scenes that didn't really add anything to the plot. I am the first one who doesn't mind sex in any television show or movie, but mostly when they are necessary or well executed. I felt like many of the sex scenes, although not explicit, were there as filler and were not plot-driven so there is that. It also would have been more entertaining to watch if Pat had way more of a backbone when it came to setting boundaries with Elyes and sticking to his guns. Most of the time, he would get annoyed regarding Elyes' behavior and treatment of him, but then a day later, Elyes would seduce him into forgiving him and all would be rainbows and sunshine until the next grievance and the cycle would repeat, and Elyes would barely have to work hard to earn Pat's forgiveness. That part of their relationship frustrated me to no end! Like, Elyes relies on Pat so much and literally can't live without him, but he can't actually work hard to earn Pat's love and loyalty when Pat finally has the guts to leave for good? SMH. And do not even get me started on the toxic waste that is Run and Feigh Long. I do not understand how so many people actually like them as a couple when Run's relationship with Elyes seemed happy, healthy, and full of love, and his relationship with Feigh Long was nothing but abusive, cheating, emotional blackmail toxicity! Like guys what the f*ck?!! Ok, rant and comment that turned into a review over.

The show really wasn't that bad. The execution and writing definitely could have been better, and I felt like the genre bending was confusing, but overall, the show wasn't terrible. Just not very good. If there was a season 2, I'd watch it to see if it improved with hopefully more funding. I agree on that pointless, annoying AF teacher though

Ya, I agree. It does suck and it is saddening. But we don't know what's true or false and it's not our business to know. That's just facts. Everyone should know better than to believe the first things you see on the internet. It's so easy for things to be twisted and construed into make-believe, especially through social media like a gigantic game of "Telephone." Is it problematic? Ya, it looks that way. But we don't know why Joss follows those people and he also hasn't explicitly done or said anything either. So all im saying is, unless he do so, we as the audience don't have a right to be jumping down his throat all the time. If you no longer like him, then that's fine, don't watch the show or support him but no one has to bash him either. Go crazy and bash the homophobes, fascists, racists, incels but not people are fairly harmless.

Exactly if he follows certain assholes in America on social media then that's his business. Do I agree with those assholes he follows or do I like that he follows them? No, I do not. Do we know why he follows them? No, we do not. But it's none of mine or any of our business to know. Plus, I have more important things to focus on in my life than to begrudge an actor for things that have NOTHING to do with me. I just wanna watch my shows in peace. Like, that's why this whole ordeal is so dumb and blown way out of proportion unless we actually see Joss publicly commit or say something heinous. People just love to hate and have no backbone.

Welp, once again, random trolls just have to ruin everything. If this show gets delayed because of dumb idiots on the internet spouting bullshit and causing so much negative press for the show's MLs, I'm gonna lose it. They JUST finished filming and are moving on to post-production. We are so close to a release date, and now I am hearing rumors of a delay because of all this nonsense controversy? Give me a friggin break already. If Joss ACTUALLY did or said something then that is really bad and shame, shame, shame on him and his cows. But if not, and he just follows a few bad apples in America then why give a shit? How many people does he follow? How many followers does he have? Most likely, he probably doesn't pay that much attention to his follower count guys. If you are his fans, why are so many of you guys so quick to jump on the negative bandwagon and turn on Joss and judge him without any full-proof concrete evidence of his so-called transgressions? You don't have to like who he follows but he didn't do anything wrong. You guys are fans, not his friends, lovers, mother, or manager. You cannot tell him what to do or give him your unsolicited opinions or input so grow the hell up and keep your judgements to yourselves. This really is not a big deal.

How is the LITA overrated? People obviously really like it. Its definitely one of the better BLs released over the last few years and is popular and still relevant today for a bunch of reasons. If you're a simple person who wants to leave a simple review then that's great. But do not be judging other people for how they want to review a show and call it "exaggerated." Its unnecessary and rude. 😟

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Non slept with the teacher because he was groomed, and the guy gave him 300,0000 baht so he felt like he owed him. I guess you don't understand how an abused mindset works because when you are shit on by literally everyone your entire life, especially those closest to you, your sense of self-worth, love, and esteem is completely broken. Your body language makes it easy for predators and bullies to sniff you out and target you for their enjoyment and to use as their plaything. Your mind becomes pliable, so you are easily influenced, and manipulated. You become a gullible pushover to those around you because you want to be loved so badly that people will gravitate towards you and not away. Non would endure anything to experience some socialism. He's been alone for so long, and alienated by his peers that when Jin was nice to him and welcomed him into his toxic friend group, Non willingly accepted their constant disrespect and and mistreatment of him. So when Tee comes to Non to open those accounts, of course, he will be stupid and make dumb decisions. It's not like he has anyone smart and supportive to guide him. His parents are emotionally neglectful and abusive, his brother is abroad and even when he was home he rarely interacted with Non, and Phee seemed to ignore him during random periods too. He doesn't have anyone to talk to to give him advice or to help. So what could he have done given his circumstances and very limited resources? The one adult he did go to outside of his parents used him for sex. And the police are shown to be seriously corrupt. And he's completely alone in this. He has no money, no contacts, no friends, NO HELP. So what should Non do? What would all of you judgemental commentators do? Non, was so scared, falsely indebted to Por, and knew his parent were ashamed of him and were barely scraping by, so what choice did he really have but to go the illegal route, especially since Tee framed him for breaking the camera, getting him into debt, then pressuring him into opening the accounts in the first place. Then the teacher comes along and makes him feel desirable when no one other than Phee does. I know Non loves Phee, and what he did by cheating on Phee with the teacher was f*cked up. I was so mad at Non while watching that NC scene, and how easily he lied to Phee about the cheating too. But I think he lied to Phee to spare his feelings and to keep him away from the bad side of his life so that Phee would only see the good part of him and never want to leave. Non believed he owed the teacher, and the teacher not-so-subtly said so with his body language, so Non f*cked him. Was it completely stupid of Non? Yes, it definitely was. But if he had just one friend, just one confidant outside of Phee who was truly his friend with no hidden agenda, Non would have been way smarter and thoughtful. His life could have been so much better. He would have lived. So I get pretty mad when I see reviewers and ignorant commentors who act just as bad as the bullies this show portrays who seem to have no sympathy for the victim and blame everything on him. Abuse really clouds your judgment! It is so difficult to make sound and rational decisions when people all around you are constantly making you feel like shit, bullying you, and using you then throwing you out like a dirty tissue the second you aren't anymore. Non wasn't perfect but have a heart, people! All those other fuckers deserved jail waaaaayyyyyy more than Non did. Give me a break!

How exactly did they ruin the script? At least their not afraid to push boundaries.

So is this supposed to be a prequel to TharnType since it was released before? Or is it a side story? I see in the cast list that some characters from TharnType are in this show (with different actors). I watched TharnType first since I didn't know this show existed and got pretty invested in Tar and Tum's story so I am wondering if that begins in Love by Chance or not, but I am guessing not since Tharn isn't here but strangely, Type is.

@daphne_jirat Why are you such a Troll? The series was actually really well made and has tons of fans. Not to place blame on the other actors, but JesBible didn't even have the most explicit scenes so get your facts straight before uttering bullsh*t. People can like and ship whomever they want without worrying about judgmental assholes who come onto fan pages just to troll people as well as the hardworking cast and crew. If you didn't like 4minutes then that is totally ok. But there is absolutely no reason for you to be so nasty. At least BeOn Cloud isn't afraid to be bold with their NC scenes like pretty much every other production house. If you think you can act better and execute a well-thought-out BL show with an interesting plot, intelligent script, beautiful cinematography, and high production value then by all means go ahead and put your money and talent where your self-righteous mouth is. But I bet you CAN'T. So in the future, you should keep your tasteless, bullying comments that are completely useless to everyone, to yourself.

I just want to hear Bible speak more English

Regardless if Fuaiz is 18, 17, 19 or 20, the kind of sex in the scene he programed was yes, graphic and explicit but it was realistic. I find it naive that so many people are so disgusted to see someone of Fuaiz's age act out such a scene. Teenagers and adults have the exact kind of sex that Fuaiz and the cop actor depicted In 4mins so why are so many people tripping? At the end of the day, the actors are all professional performers doing their jobs. Was it shocking to see someone as young as him act out sexually explicit scenes such as his? yes. But he agreed to it and even if he were the age of majority, he would look and act the exact same. If Fuaiz was 15 or 16, this would be a different matter.

I just finished this series and went in blindly with no expectations. I loved it! I loved the acting and the simple yet cute love story between the characters. Everyone had great chemistry, and I really appreciated the music, cinematography, and costume design. I do wish the story and Ray's background were fleshed out a bit more because the episode and season were overall too short, but this was a spectacular, low-angst teen love drama about finding and falling in love. It was great; I want more! Definitely warrants a second season because I want to see Ye Guang and Xu Qi Zhang as an official couple, because they are precious, and season one did seem unfinished and ended, right when it was getting really progressive. Like I said, I want more and we really should have gotten either longer episodes/season or a season 2 for this show. Why do all the best, most underrated BLs never get renewed when it's clearly deserved and needed? I really don't get it.

Don't agree

I just watched this show and loved it. Xu Qi Zhang touching his neck is supposed to look awkward because, well, he is. It's an awkward quirk/tell of his, especially when he's nervous which happens a lot when he's around his crush Ye Guang. I don't think it's unnatural at all. It shows individuality and his specific characteristics. I liked it.

I don't really read manga, but I watched the Anime of this last year! I was wondering why the title of this series sounded so familiar. I am excited to see the live-action played out and hope it's done justice, although I am getting a little worn out by the grumpy/sunshine trope of MLs. There's waaaaaayyyyyy too many in BLs. This is yet another one even though the story was good.

I haven't seen DFF so I can't speak on that, but I did watch KinnPorsche and 4minutes, and I personally don't believe 4minutes was pornographic. Was it sexually explicit at times? Yes, it was, as there were around 3 or 4 NC scenes in the entire series and 2 were pretty graphic, but not PORNOgraphic. Unlike so many other production houses, I do appreciate that BeOn Cloud is bold and not afraid to take chances regarding their NC scenes. If you are going to include sex in your shows, depending on the show's rating, it's ok to be daring from time to time. After all, we are adults, and most have sex. Anyway, I don't really understand what SHINE will be about as the synopsis gave me nothing, and I have not watched its prequel series. If the story calls for sex, then by all means, let the characters have sex and make it good for the viewers to watch and the actors to act out, but if not, I agree that I don't want it there simply for cheap theatric thrills and fan service.

Agreed. Couples, straight or gay, have sex. Unless of course you're ace/aro. Therefore it is perfectly normal and should be expected to included sex scenes is shows catered towards adults. The sex scenes do not need to be crazy explicit or anything at all, but most of the time, the so-called "adult scenes" are either short, fade to black, with the leads shirtless and making out. In most of the BL shows, and I've seen ALOT, the NC scenes are pretty tame and sometimes boring. I'm not looking to watch porn anything of the kind, but they could be spicier. But I guess the shows are catering to what the actors are most comfortable with and I can respect that. But like I said, we are all adults, and I am very sex positive especially when regarding the LGBTQ+ community so if you are going to dish out BL dramas that are more mature and you include NC scenes, you better deliver on the heat, which unfortunately, a lot of shows don't do.