Wynwyn555

No I meant she said „I lost“ during the fight with the ML, not about the game. She won the game. She said „I still lost“ during the fight cause she lost the fight with him.

No? She explained whah she meant

IKR his acting, his facial expressions and body language are top notch! Even when I don’t know what he’s thinking I can always tell there is sth lurking beneath

I realized only now why he thought they had broken up when she said "I guess I lost after all" during the fight after the card game. He understood it as her saying "Looks like I lost the game either way" aka if she were to lose the game she had to break up with him.

So I caught up with ep 8 (I had speedwatched only some moments) and I noticed how anytime ML can really give in himself to the relationship or her, there is always sth that makes me retreat out of self-preservation.

He was initially holding himself back while doing favors for her behind her back, and then it was starting to go somewhere/him opening up to her f.e. at his birthday celebration him putting on the ears at her request (It meant a lot to the FL because she wanted to be the one to make him do it cause his female bf couldn't get him to do it). But right after that, him showing his most vulnerable wound and being happy at her present, she did ran away and you could tell how devasted and shocked he was. But the true extend of how hurt he was came only to light across many other scenes, up to her asking him to get together. I liked how well he had taken it actually, meaning he still wore her shoes to work as if nothing happened, he didn't become spiteful.

Next time when they are together and they're having dinner he gets visibly sad when she says she won't get jealous if he goes to the cinema with another woman (I love the subtle acting of the ML!) and he tries putting distance between eachother because he noticed he liked her more than she liked him. At the end of ep5 he goes on that speech of how painful it must be to swallow the sun and having to spit it out, her being the sun to him. "Once I swallow sth, I can never spit it out. I'd never spit it out, even if it burned me alive. There's no going back." We never get to see that side of him, hence why I am convinced we will in the future now.

Next her brother makes him feel inadequate and tells him to back off and you can tell how much it upsets him. Then he finds out she bets their relationship on a game. As I mentioned, anytime he can really go all in, there are always things that validate his fears and he has not overcome that. So it makes perfect sense that he disappeared in ep9 after finding out he got a tumor again. I wonder if people giving him such a hard time get his character at all. The point isn't that all of his behavior is fine but highlights how the approach of thinking he's gonna protect himself by retreating doesn't result in that either so either way he will have to go all in if he wants to be with her.

In your head maybe

That's all in your head

FOR REAL

You proved my point. None of the things you say dismantle any of the arguments I made. You keep focusing on insulting the GF to exonerate the leads, when the truth is that no matter how the GF is, it doesn't change the fact how the leads are. He told FL he won't break up with her because he is a coward and also wants to keep the GF as social price. He is with her because of her beauty and wants sexual favors from her, he does not display any interest in her beyond that and he is pig for that, no matter how "psycho" the girl is behind his back. He is still a coward for not breaking up with, but even the "scared" excuse is pathetic because, why would he not be scared to cheat on her then? Next episode he is gonna propose to the FL to become his mistress cause he is too afraid to not marry the GF and people would eat it up ROFL. See, whether he is scared or not, he is still a loser. FL has no backbone and the nerve to tell in the GF's face of the things she does with her BF, she has no brains or any interesting trait other than being an empty canvas that other angsty teens can project themselves onto.

The only ones triggered are you guys who fawn over cheating pigs and FLs with no dignity. For such people the display of aversion of cheating is a lot to deal with, no doubt about that. Look at you guys jumping through mountains to defend them ROFL

You must be a kid. I never got cheated on and even if I did, what makes you think trying to use that as a gotcha to defend some fictional pig is appropriate? You can act defensive all you want but what I said is the truth and you can't deny it. You're using the typical excuse guys pull "my ex was really crazy" "my wife won't sleep with me" so you find their immoral behavior excusable. ML is a pig, who dated his GF for social status and because she is pretty, with his end goal in mind to get physical acts from her, who never showed interest in her beyond that to even talk with her or hold her hand. No matter how much you try to, you can not twist this.

He is very self-serving and sly about it. I get people find him a "more secure catch" but I find him very unappealing. He's basically someone who does everything that ensures his own interest first and foremost and in a very unpredictable way. And people need to cut ML some slack, they're holding him to a higher standard which I find unfair. I found ML to be more selfless from the start, albeit still having his own personal issues with his emotional wounds. And there has been a lot of misunderstandings how FL saw him and how we see him too, several times in the beginning he did things for her without her even knowing and he would get (rightfully) upset when it didn't land as he thought it would (lol at the computer thing or her saying "you never liked me, you didn't even want me to join" and he's like "bruh you can't be real". He is realistic in the sense that he doesn't act always perfect and predictable, his own feelings and his need to protect himself get in the way a lot of things.

Nope from what I seen all my life people go way more for unstable and messy things so that is actually more accurate lol

I get your point, but what I mean is at the end of the day the characters (or people in general) involved in relationships don't make decisions based like that. It's not like they had a deadline to establish that solid foundation, they can go back to it anytime if they want to. This decision is based on their feelings for one another, not on other criteria. And I am sure that all their buildup, slow burn and unconsumed love is going to be continued by the story, and was not there just for it to be thrown away like that.

as of now no she is not dating him but he might ask her soon

WHAT???? omg I'm so sad.

Had the filming been finished or what???

he had a tumor in his lung, and her brother told him to back off behind her back so that played a role too. we haven't gotten the full story yet, but from what I gathered so far, it was obviously an emotional reason more than anything. All their hurdles so far were indicative of some personal wounds (f.e. her running away after she saw his leg; I also noticed he rejected her for the second time after their dinner when she pointed out he was jealous of the professor having taken her to the hospital, and she said "I won't get jealous if you hang out with another woman" and you could tell his mood/face dropped after that. right after that, probably realizing he liked her more than she seemed to like him, he decided to opt out again and said he is going to the US)

ROFL are you joking?? No

well that's not how relationships work, you don't do cost analysis like that in regards to measuring time or longevity. and the plot doesn't try to excuse his behaviour, so it's not trying to gloss over it, I am confident the next arc is going to have him actively pursuing her. remember in the rain episode how he mentions that once he gives fully he can't hold himself back. "Once I swallow sth, I can never spit it out. I'd never spit it out, even if it burned me alive. There's no going back." We never got to actually see this side of him, so I'm convinced that's what's gonna happen next.

GUYS why am I finding out ONLY NOW that the director is director of some of my favourite kdramas??? I kept thinking "I love how mature and serious the story feels, so much detail in so many things" and lo and behold I check, it's him!!! I loved one spring night!!!