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Perhaps just those "hurtful" CP fans coming here to vent their frustration. I already give the drama 10 stars .... Cannot help anymore.

Indeed. What an accomplishment for all of us to finish the drama. Hahahahaha!! Since this is a tragedy themed drama, all I wish now is that the drama really deliver that knife to my heart. Otherwise, this drama will fall as meh ....

People need to give credit when it is due. I came to the drama, hoping that both lead will be able to touch my heart with their acting. Yuan Bing Yuan was good, yes. But Cheng Yi was the one that touched me with his acting. Yuan Bing Yuan fans can crying and screaming but it won't change the fact.

The script gave both lead chances to shine. There were many of emotional scenes that Yuan Bing Yuan failed to capitalize. It is unfair to blame others for what you failed to do. The addition of suffering for Si Feng was actually double edges blade. If Cheng Yi succeeded in capitalize on that, great, but if he failed, the result would be catastrophe for the whole drama.

Thank you very much for your information!! I feel Cheng Yi was somehow threw a temper tantrum in that live concert by overdid his coldness toward Yuan Bing Yuan. Like he wanted to say: You want me to avoid her, right. I am AVOIDING her now.

By his cold expression throughout the event even when interacting with others, I suspect he held lots of anger inside and just wanted the event got over and done.

Some people just love to go with the flow instead of having a mind for themselves. Perhaps just a few person screaming injustice for Yuan Bing Yuan and the others just parrot them with adding spice here and there.

What again now? I was busying myself in discord and soompi since I think the MDL has cooled down finally. Anything bad happen recently? And could you share what happen over there in weibo?

From what I have watched in the original, she did not give the order directly. The ML offered himself to die in battle and the FL just let him in the end.

I actually want to see the scene when Ming Yu "ordered" him to die. Or whatever the drama will twist that. Wish to see stellar acting from both leads

Yeah, Zhou Xun. Really love her portrayal as Ruyi. She perfectly depicted Ruyi throughout her life until the end.

My strongest impression for Bai Lu is from The Legends. While that drama has explosive chemistry (actually that drama taught me what is truly called a chemistry .....), the FL acting left me wanting in the end. Bai Lu failed to convince me in emotional scenes. I felt that she didn't love the ML enough.

Actually the current crops of actor (that still in their 20s) also not very good. Perhaps one or two talent, but the rest are meh. Currently, actor that showed talent in acting are already in their early 30s.

I truly hope Cheng Yi fans in China are not a bunch of crazies. I have seen what happened with Xiao Zhan because of his fans. Would not want the same fate to befall Cheng Yi.

So far I see that his fans only fussing about his acting skill. So however crazy it is currently, should still be endurable. As far as I know, this fan war started because the drama add on scenes that made the ML shine more and dumbing down the FL. Stupid excuse in my opinion. The drama script gave both leads chance to shine. It is only a matter who can capitalize better.

One actress in C-entertainment that impressed me recently is the one acted as Ruyi in Ruyi Love in Royal Palace.

I am actually annoyed when people tend to favor the ML than FL and then blamed us women as the audiences for the unfairness. While I am agree some younger fans will be more crazy on ML, does not mean we women could not appreciate a FL.

It is just most of the time, those FL just underperformed. What should we do then .....

I have limited knowledge on actresses in C-entertainment business. But by what I have seen through dramas watching these years, no one in the current crops of actress (in the right age) that has enough ability to pull of a prefect He Lan Ming Yu.

Sometimes I wonder just why it is so difficult to have good actress nowadays. Most of them strike me as too wooden and too much caring about looking pretty on screen.

I have high hope for Meng Xin Chang An. In my opinion Zhang Yu Xi was a better actress than Yuan Bing Yuan. Zhang Yu Xi acting in Ling Long traumatic scenes was far more believable than that of Yuan Bing Yuan in episode 59 (sorry, but I actually disappointed in Yuan Bing Yuan acting in Si Feng death scene).

I have no problem of another drama with sad ending for him as long as it is done well. I will see all of these depressing drama as preparation for him to tackle his role in Broken Clouds (if he really casted for that). By his temperament and looks, I guess he will get role as Wu Yu in that drama. And that is a complex and heavy character.

It will be so disappointing if this drama ended in failure. I watched a couple of episode of the original starting from ML death. The acting from both ML and FL didn't impress me at all. Too flat and robotic. FL love toward ML could not be felt at all and I actually ended up hated the FL just because of that couple of episodes ....

That's why I have quite a high hope of this remake in the beginning. Better acting, better script ........

In this drama, FL acting skill is crucial. CP chemistry aside, I feel the FL failed to show her true feeling toward the King. I wish she showed some reservation toward the King. Polite smile here and there but no tenderness. Sigh ....

Different with L&R where Cheng Yi acting sometimes make Yuan Bing Yuan looked inadequate, here both lead are more or less equal in my opinion. Sarah Zhao is great in emotional scenes, too. In episode 11 when both of them finally met each other after the marriage, both of them showed equal pain.

Shortly, both are good in emotional scenes but both failed in showing aura of Forbidden Romance. But because of script, FL inadequacy is exposed more currently. Cheng Yi will be challenged later after the King died, I think.

Despite the bad ending and depression, I am happy that he took on this role. This is a role that could truly teach him to act better in the future. Glad that he was brave enough to take the challenge.

Also, agreed with you about Cheng Yi acting. He was not as good here as he was in L&R, especially in showing affection scene. In L&R, he also more adept in showing inner pain despite acting as some unfeeling Demon Lord. Here, his Cheng Xu was not yet perfect. Well, we are still early in the drama though. Perhaps we will see more of him in the late episodes.

I have high hopes for his future dramas after L&R. If he can improve so much from The Promise of Chang An to L&R, then he should have improve more in his future works.

This drama suffers from the lack of CP builds up. We should have at least 10 episodes full of their relationship building instead of sending of Cheng Xu to war in what? Episode 6? ....

Looking at this, I cannot really fault the actor/actress to no be able to give us the right chemistry. Ming Yu has more interaction with the King compared with Cheng Xu ...... Judging from the script, Ming Yu character development is actually interesting:

Girl in love - marrying the man she does not love to protect someone - told herself to move on - realizing that she could not move on - realizing that it is only Cheng Xu that really think of her (episode 18) -
------My guess in the future ---------
perhaps will put some distance to King finally - cannot lie to herself anymore that she indeed still love Cheng Xu - King found out their forbidden love - still hold on to her heart - become a mother - start to prioritize son over lover - sacrifice the lover to protect the son - pain for a lifetime - hold herself together for the last time to protect their country.

If the actress could capitalize, this will be her golden chance. But, so far, I could not see that she could do it. Too chummy with the King without any restrain in episode 12-17

Yeah, agreed on chemistry thing. Cheng Yi is very good on emotional scenes but in here, I think he was too tender with Yu Ying.

Forbidden Love has its own allure I say. No love scene after girlfriend become sister in law is logical. But why we could not have more lovey dovey in the beginning is beyond me. It will help establish the CP more. By now, it is difficult for me to really cheering the lead, even more so when Cheng Xu got married and getting all this tender moment with Yu Ying.

Well perhaps this was the time when Cheng Yi learnt on how to differentiate affection. In L&R you can tell even though Si Feng cared for Xiao Yin Hua, it was different from the way he cared for Xuan Ji. In regard to Xiao Yin Hua, I can feel that it was like he was talking to his beloved little sister. While with Xuan Ji, it was with passion.

Since this drama was shoot before L&R, perhaps his acting was still in polishing state by then. Hmmm, I am really looking forward to Meng Xing Chang An

Just finished watching until episode 18. I am so late in discussion .... Will try to start watching by Friday night next week so that I can come here early to discuss with all of you.

The story was not as depressing as episode 9-11 in my opinion. The love in this drama is Forbidden Love anyway so we should not expect a usual romance here. I have read people commenting about the lead chemistry which I tend to agree here. I felt uncomfortable watching. In this kind of Forbidden Love theme, I expect to see secret gesture, different smile, secret eye contact that said thousand words, etc. But in this drama I get nothing of sort ....

Forbidden Love has its own allure compared with normal romance. You can see a couple that separated by destiny but their love is so beautiful that will left the audience feels pain alongside with them. But, this drama failed to give me that pain. If this is a tragedy drama, then I expect to feel a knife stab into my heart. I don't know whose fault this is; the actor/actress, the director, or the script. Both Cheng Yi and Sarah Zhao failed in exuding different aura when they are in close vicinity. The looks Cheng Xu used to see Ming Yu is exactly the same as the one he used to see Yu Ying. Same goes for Ming Yu. The way she looked to the King is the same as the looks she used to see Cheng Xu.

I think this problem might be caused by the fast pace of the introduction arc. The lead early romance was so underdeveloped so that the actor and actress had not yet established some connection with each other. In summary my problem with this drama:
1. I understand that Cheng Xu felt guilty toward Yu Ying, but I hope that he was not that tender with her ..... (even though I think he will never so tender with her anymore now)
2. Ming Yu is too chummy with the King. The audiences did not need to be told (through the King words to Ming Yu) that the King did not have Ming Yu heart, we need to SEE it!! All those smile looks so sincere and full of care to me.
3. Not enough of war and politic play scenes. If you cannot give us an engaging love story, then at least give us a witty politic play.
4. The drama is too fast paced overall (which in my opinion is the core of all the problems). Character development feels forced.