I was craving for a good historical refreshing drama and I am OH SO HAPPY I stumbled on this one. I wish I could forget it just to rewatch again. I'll miss it~
17 and 22 is not much of the difference anyways. 17 is soon to be 18. This happens a lot actually, to me too when…
I'm happy you just proved yourself to be ignorant and continuously so. "How does it feel to write that long for someone who's life you don't know?" -- It honestly didn't take me long to write none of this (if you're a fast typer and or writer---this is basically 2-5mins tops, maybe more than 5mins if you wanna take your time), and I never presumed your life, you said a piece of something regarding your life and I simply responded to that piece.
You don't have to sleep with them to be a victim, the fact that they sought you, and were in relationships with them is enough, etc. -- and like mentioned go back to paragraph 2 of my first response or go read the articles, and actually learn and teach yourself, otherwise like I said before---I'll be talking to a wall like I am now.
"And like I said not everyone agrees. . Whether you like it or not. It happen and will happen. You don't have to agree though, like I don't agree with you that it's automatically a problem with age gaps." -- YOU CANNOT DISAGREE WITH A FACT unless it is proven incorrect. Your opinion is that you're choosing to go against scientifical and statistical evidence is simply ignorance and lack of knowledge.
YOUR OPINION IS WRONG NO MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT. THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH WETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.
"No matter what links you want to share, it still doesn't mean everyone agrees." Hence again showing your inability in even trying to learn even when given resources, literally being fed and still chose not to. You'd rather stay in the bubble that you are, full of bliss and again--full of ignorance. If you cannot even do that, then do not spread misinformation. And you are a weirdo for having such a mentality, choosing to be okay with grooming. I hope you do not have children because from this conversation alone it doesn't seem you have any emotional intelligence nor even logic if you are choosing against educating yourself.
17 and 22 is not much of the difference anyways. 17 is soon to be 18. This happens a lot actually, to me too when…
That is not an opinion. It is a fact, whether YOU accept that or not won't change that it's a proven fact. Literally a psychological and social scientific fact when studying developmental growth.
Women are "more mature" than men due to patriarchy that forced them to be this way, because men and women were raised differently with different standards as children and teens. There are literal statistics and women studies that denounce what you're saying. And you saying men are less mature and boys are more childish just further proves the points of those studies and statistics, since you were indoctrinated into the patriarchy. And giving these excuses for men and boys is the reason why there is so much femicide, lack of accountability, furthers misogyny, r--pe culture, and even puts women in more danger to amplify that mindset, etc. (I can go on..).
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Sorry to tell you this but you were a victim whether you choose to believe it or not. Those older men simply took advantage of you especially if they were over 25 because your prefrontal cortex doesn't even form until then. Not to mention it is odd in itself how they weren't dating women around their age and there could also be a reason why; that the women around their age seen through their act and or them so they have to go to impressionable young girls and women. ==========
In accordance to a high school teenager that is 17 and a grown 22 year old:
-One is in high school, trying to figure out what school college they're going to, worrying about exams, their parents, some are just about to get their permit/driving license, can't legally drink, not an adult, etc.
-The other is in college if not work, figuring life out, legally able to drink, an adult, closer to 25 where the prefrontal cortex is formed, have their own money, etc.
These are not the same. They are in two different stages of life not including their mindsets which are also different. So like I said before no SANE or Intelligent parent is going to let or agree to have their young teenager of 17 get together with a grown person of 22 REGARDLESS OF GENDER (and specifically teen girl and grown/older man since that is what is most common.) ==========
Please do go educate yourself and specifically look into women studies and the effects of patriarchy to learn more, otherwise I will be speaking to a wall. Anything I say will either:
a) Make no sense to you. b) Trigger you because instead of learning, you'd rather argue c) showcase your ignorance even further d) show that you never cared to actually learn and rather spread misinformation.
[The truth won't change just because you don't believe in it.]
He haslit her into the abortion, but she should apologize to him? Wow. Weird sense of morality here.
?? Was there a reason to generalize. It makes your very good point fall out flat, ignorant and insulting.
Many westerners who are educated on that matter are aware of the Asian apology culture and share your view. Some don't. Just like other Asian ppl would agree and some wouldn't. But ppl shouldn't generalize or be xenophobic, it's just distasteful.
17 and 22 is not much of the difference anyways. 17 is soon to be 18. This happens a lot actually, to me too when…
Actually it is a large difference in mentality and circumstances. 17 is still underaged, probably in high school and worrying about more miniscule things, 22 is a young adult, trying to figure out life and etc. No sane person would want their 17 child to be together with a 22 yr old person. Please be for real.
There is a lot of bad comments about the old appearance of the female lead and especially one so provoking in…
So a lot of agism with beauty standard and shallow people... disgusting. She is extremely talented actress and beautiful, she doesn't even look "old" and even if she did, old isn't suppose to be an insult.
So true and their love was much better , healthier and open than Shanggu and Bai Jue. (Mostly on Bai Jue's side).…
I believe there is a miscommunication, I am not rebutting what you say and the perspective you bring up. I even agreed and understand that POV as well as what death can do to someone who was left behind. However like I said prior two things can be true at the same time. And although yes she was mourning, so was her child which she no doubt neglected him to other people. Yes those other people care and love him but that tends to pale some in comparison to your own mother/parent, so for you to see her unfortunate circumstance and not his, is in fact rooted in bias as both of them lost someone dear.
Otherwise, I do agree with the previous sentiment.
So true and their love was much better , healthier and open than Shanggu and Bai Jue. (Mostly on Bai Jue's side).…
Yes, I agree. Two things can be true at the same time, while I completely understand that POV of Shanggu and Bai jue and why they did certain things or reacted how they did; as for example when Shanggu was depressed rightfully so and unable to take care of their child and as well as the responsibilities that were placed on their shoulders. But like mentioned before many things could have been avoidable and less manic, as well as less suffering on both their end. Also I completely under that Shangguu was depressed but as a mother, she left him for hundreds of years, and unfortunetly to be a parent, you are responsible for another life and her child was now both neglected and depressed because he also lost his father.
If the both of them were honest and communicated their feelings and plans, and tried facing difficulties together instead of attempting to sacrifice each other for the other (Specifically mostly Bai Jue and especially at the second half of the story) then their love wouldn't have been so toxic. Although the secrets and lies were not only the fault of the two but also a lot of the other characters (Especially as they kept Houshi & Shanggu ignorant/ withholding many secrets from her and lying to her). Though it was for her "own good", it had made her suffer severely and took away her right to choose and make decisions for herself.
Like you said though, they went through hardships and got their happy ending, and that is all that matters . It is good to see them together and hopefully now can be a happy couple AND family.
"How does it feel to write that long for someone who's life you don't know?" -- It honestly didn't take me long to write none of this (if you're a fast typer and or writer---this is basically 2-5mins tops, maybe more than 5mins if you wanna take your time), and I never presumed your life, you said a piece of something regarding your life and I simply responded to that piece.
You don't have to sleep with them to be a victim, the fact that they sought you, and were in relationships with them is enough, etc. -- and like mentioned go back to paragraph 2 of my first response or go read the articles, and actually learn and teach yourself, otherwise like I said before---I'll be talking to a wall like I am now.
"And like I said not everyone agrees. . Whether you like it or not. It happen and will happen. You don't have to agree though, like I don't agree with you that it's automatically a problem with age gaps." -- YOU CANNOT DISAGREE WITH A FACT unless it is proven incorrect. Your opinion is that you're choosing to go against scientifical and statistical evidence is simply ignorance and lack of knowledge.
YOUR OPINION IS WRONG NO MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH WETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.
"No matter what links you want to share, it still doesn't mean everyone agrees." Hence again showing your inability in even trying to learn even when given resources, literally being fed and still chose not to. You'd rather stay in the bubble that you are, full of bliss and again--full of ignorance. If you cannot even do that, then do not spread misinformation. And you are a weirdo for having such a mentality, choosing to be okay with grooming. I hope you do not have children because from this conversation alone it doesn't seem you have any emotional intelligence nor even logic if you are choosing against educating yourself.
Have the day you deserve.
- https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0256090920140206
- https://eduindex.org/2021/08/08/societys-biggest-problem-patriarchy-and-its-effects-on-men-and-women/
- https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/social-sciences/patriarchy
- https://wimbur.com/read-blog/1219_the-effects-of-patriarchy-on-woman.html
- https://scholarsphere.psu.edu/resources/af04330a-2df1-460c-a61f-91573f688be3
- Patriarchal books by hell hooks
- No visible bruises by Rachel Louise Snyder
Literally a psychological and social scientific fact when studying developmental growth.
Women are "more mature" than men due to patriarchy that forced them to be this way, because men and women were raised differently with different standards as children and teens. There are literal statistics and women studies that denounce what you're saying.
And you saying men are less mature and boys are more childish just further proves the points of those studies and statistics, since you were indoctrinated into the patriarchy. And giving these excuses for men and boys is the reason why there is so much femicide, lack of accountability, furthers misogyny, r--pe culture, and even puts women in more danger to amplify that mindset, etc. (I can go on..).
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Sorry to tell you this but you were a victim whether you choose to believe it or not. Those older men simply took advantage of you especially if they were over 25 because your prefrontal cortex doesn't even form until then. Not to mention it is odd in itself how they weren't dating women around their age and there could also be a reason why; that the women around their age seen through their act and or them so they have to go to impressionable young girls and women.
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In accordance to a high school teenager that is 17 and a grown 22 year old:
-One is in high school, trying to figure out what school college they're going to, worrying about exams, their parents, some are just about to get their permit/driving license, can't legally drink, not an adult, etc.
-The other is in college if not work, figuring life out, legally able to drink, an adult, closer to 25 where the prefrontal cortex is formed, have their own money, etc.
These are not the same. They are in two different stages of life not including their mindsets which are also different. So like I said before no SANE or Intelligent parent is going to let or agree to have their young teenager of 17 get together with a grown person of 22 REGARDLESS OF GENDER (and specifically teen girl and grown/older man since that is what is most common.)
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Please do go educate yourself and specifically look into women studies and the effects of patriarchy to learn more, otherwise I will be speaking to a wall. Anything I say will either:
a) Make no sense to you.
b) Trigger you because instead of learning, you'd rather argue
c) showcase your ignorance even further
d) show that you never cared to actually learn and rather spread misinformation.
[The truth won't change just because you don't believe in it.]
Many westerners who are educated on that matter are aware of the Asian apology culture and share your view. Some don't. Just like other Asian ppl would agree and some wouldn't. But ppl shouldn't generalize or be xenophobic, it's just distasteful.
Otherwise, I do agree with the previous sentiment.
If the both of them were honest and communicated their feelings and plans, and tried facing difficulties together instead of attempting to sacrifice each other for the other (Specifically mostly Bai Jue and especially at the second half of the story) then their love wouldn't have been so toxic. Although the secrets and lies were not only the fault of the two but also a lot of the other characters (Especially as they kept Houshi & Shanggu ignorant/ withholding many secrets from her and lying to her). Though it was for her "own good", it had made her suffer severely and took away her right to choose and make decisions for herself.
Like you said though, they went through hardships and got their happy ending, and that is all that matters . It is good to see them together and hopefully now can be a happy couple AND family.