And you just proved my point why it is important to share the news. We will never understand each other if we let these things buried.
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The debate on the accuracy of historical fiction works has been around since the time of William Shakespeare, and even earlier. There have been a lot of papers published about it (many are in JSTOR), and it will continue to be debated.
Like it or not, this 'incident' is one of those. People will always be divided between “it's fiction” and “historical accuracy”. Even in the West, for example, the show “The Crown” is the most recent television series in the UK criticized in the UK for not conforming to “historical accuracy”. In the US, many Abraham Lincoln fiction were also criticized (like the novel and film “Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter”).
People will debate about it forever.
However, I do not believe that news such as this should not be shared just because “naaa, everyone complains about it”. Discourse is important, it is how society will improve. With today's digital age and how easy it is to archive everyone's opinion on matters, future generations will have something to look back into, and maybe understand how their world changed … because you and me discussed it.
As a good example, the information you shared is valuable. It gives everyone a different view on the issue raised by Vietnam. In other platforms, all I've seen were “it's fiction”.
So on that, thank you for sharing, it gave us a deeper understanding.
> I think Little Women is framing the people involved in the war as the bad guys, that's what matters to me and what people should focus on imo.
Correct. But many 21st century viewers only see the surface and not the deeper meaning of the stories they watch/read.
We don't need to go far, "Little Women" is a very good example. There are a lot of deeper messages and lessons from this adaptation, but many are missing it. Most people only see the surface story, and the actors.
There's nothing bad with only seeing the surface, the obvious, or watching because of the actors; but as far as the discussion goes, people who see the deeper essence of a story is now an "endangered species".
I think it is because Korean dramas are more popular today and their writers understand what "fiction" is.
Unfortunately, the world today is more about political correctness and it no longer matters if something is fiction or not. If something doesn't align with one's political correctness standards, it will get cancelled.
Western shows used to be the target of these, but today they are very careful on what they write because they can no longer afford getting cancelled or receiving negative news. The top brass are now very quick to cancel shows.
It wouldn't be a surprise if Korea eventually does the same as Western shows.
Wonder if Vietnam's viewers feel the same way?Little Women has been the #1 top Netflix TV show in Vietnam for…
At least in other SNS platforms, there are Vietnamese leaving comments in favor of their government's decision (and some were event 'attacking' people saying "it's just fiction").
It's hard to know what the actual sentiment is. If the communist government says it is against their laws… I guess that's also a signal to never disagree with them online.
But still, now we know which States and Nations are sensitive about it. (And interestingly, Korean "netizens" are supporting Vietnam's government.)
Wonder if Vietnam's viewers feel the same way?Little Women has been the #1 top Netflix TV show in Vietnam for…
True. Personally, I was surprised Vietnam's government reacted badly about it. In other SNS platforms, there were Vietnamese who supported the decision as well -- to the point that other commenters stayed out of it because supporters of the decision were 'attacking' them. Ironically, very similar to how Koreans who support cancelling a show or a celebrity react in comments.
Which brings to… the Korean production should've known to be careful about it since their own people are sensitive about historical changes. If their own are sensitive, then they should've expected there are other cultures who are also sensitive like them.
I don't agree with the ban. Fiction is fiction.
Sure, the Koreans have said before, and maybe the Vietnamese will say the same thing, "if it is your own country's history 'distorted' in fiction, you would ban/cancel it too". Sorry but no. My country, my people, we've had our share of "distortions" (to borrow their word) in fiction. While I understand the sentiments, I did not agree with the calls for bans and all that (especially when the government or some agency involved themselves).
There are few people today who understands what 'fiction' is.
We often hear about Koreans (and Chinese) being sensitive on fictional changes, that it should be a reminder for everyone they are not the only ones who take fiction as 'real [history]'.
(At least in the Philippines, things changed for the last xx years. Even though the counrty is often depicted as a haven for Korean criminals, I have not seen anyone reacting badly about it. Yes, it was sad and a disappointment but Filipinos today learned to take fiction as fiction. I hope other countries, like Vietnam, China, and Korea, will one day learn it too.)
This has already been posted. The show is not a documentary, but a fiction. Characters in fiction do not only…
Do you want me to say my piece about the ban?
"I personally do not agree with it. However, the Korean production should have been careful about it, especially since they themselves are sensitive about their own history."
I hope that satisfies you. ^_^
If you still do not understand why I shared this news, and the one before it, then I have nothing else to say. Have a great day.
This has already been posted. The show is not a documentary, but a fiction. Characters in fiction do not only…
Are you referring to the article I also shared? It's a different article, this new one with comments from Koreans.
This is an important news because it sheds light on the sensitivities of different cultures. It does not matter what your, his, her, my opinions are on how to approach fiction.
I myself don't agree with the Vietnam government's decision to have the show banned in Netflix Vietnam. But their country, their laws, their decisions. HOWEVER, the Korean production team should have known better because their own people are sensitive about their own history being changed in fiction, to the point that they cancelled shows, and so on.
In this age of interconnectedness, it is essential to understand the different dynamics at play. You may think it will not be of any benefit to you, today or tomorrow, but that knowledge may help you one day.
I can go on the what's and why's of knowing these things if you want.
Or, if something doesn't matter to you, the global SNS rule is to "just scroll". ^_^
tvN drama 'Little Women' removed from Netflix in Vietnam due to offensive content
Quoting: Many Korean netizens, also aware of the backlash that the drama has been receiving from Vietnamese netizens, strongly criticized the offensive comments by the character in question. Many expressed, "Are the drama producers crazy? Can they use their brains to think for like once?", "Wow, I'm just embarrassed", "That scene was so bad. Any country would have the right to be offended", "This drama is good, but yeah the anger is totally valid", "I was literally like, 'What the heck,' when that scene came on too...", "Korean dramas are distributed to so many countries nowadays, these kinds of senseless lines won't cut it", "The producers need to apologize. We should know better than to mock other countries' for their sensitive histories", etc.
The only thing i hate is... polices without seatbelt locked when the most scenes are inside the car
Maybe the seatbelt law was not yet strictly enforced back in 2017 (or whenever this was filmed). It's similar in many countries, it was only recently that seatbelt laws were strictly implemented. Usually, bills are passed but the implementation was virtually non-existent. It takes an accident before enforcers pay serious attention to implementing new laws.
Vietnam requests Netflix remove Korean drama “Little Women” over war 'distortion'Continue reading: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/vietnam-requests-netflix-remove-little-women-k-drama-war-distortion-2989141
HANOI: Vietnam has asked Netflix to stop showing the South Korean drama series Little Women in the Southeast Asian country, alleging the series distorted events of the Vietnam War, state media said Wednesday (Oct 5).
In episode eight of the 12-part drama, which is loosely based on the novel of the same name by Louisa May Alcott, a war veteran from South Korea is seen bragging about the "kill-to-death ratio" between troops from his country and the Viet Cong.
More than 320,000 South Koreans were sent to Vietnam between 1964 and 1973 to fight alongside US soldiers.
They have long faced allegations that they committed mass killings of Vietnamese civilians.
The war veteran in the series, a Korean, tells one of the main characters in the show that "in our best battles, the kill-to-death ratio for Korean troops was 20:1. That's 20 Viet Cong killed for one Korean soldier dead".
He then goes on to say the ratio was even higher in South Korea's favour among the country's elite soldiers.
It is not known how many North Vietnamese soldiers were killed by South Korean troops during the war.
Also posted in the forums: https://kisskh.at/discussions/golden-spoon/81865-theory-1-seung-cheon-and-tae-yeong-actually-returned-to-their-original-familiesWHAT…
Yeah, the baby switch is more plausible. (And ironically happens in real life too, ^_^;;)
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Still waiting for "Full Episode 5" from the official source (GMA Network).
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The debate on the accuracy of historical fiction works has been around since the time of William Shakespeare, and even earlier. There have been a lot of papers published about it (many are in JSTOR), and it will continue to be debated.
Like it or not, this 'incident' is one of those. People will always be divided between “it's fiction” and “historical accuracy”. Even in the West, for example, the show “The Crown” is the most recent television series in the UK criticized in the UK for not conforming to “historical accuracy”. In the US, many Abraham Lincoln fiction were also criticized (like the novel and film “Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter”).
People will debate about it forever.
However, I do not believe that news such as this should not be shared just because “naaa, everyone complains about it”. Discourse is important, it is how society will improve. With today's digital age and how easy it is to archive everyone's opinion on matters, future generations will have something to look back into, and maybe understand how their world changed … because you and me discussed it.
As a good example, the information you shared is valuable. It gives everyone a different view on the issue raised by Vietnam. In other platforms, all I've seen were “it's fiction”.
So on that, thank you for sharing, it gave us a deeper understanding.
Kudos!
Correct. But many 21st century viewers only see the surface and not the deeper meaning of the stories they watch/read.
We don't need to go far, "Little Women" is a very good example. There are a lot of deeper messages and lessons from this adaptation, but many are missing it. Most people only see the surface story, and the actors.
There's nothing bad with only seeing the surface, the obvious, or watching because of the actors; but as far as the discussion goes, people who see the deeper essence of a story is now an "endangered species".
Unfortunately, the world today is more about political correctness and it no longer matters if something is fiction or not. If something doesn't align with one's political correctness standards, it will get cancelled.
Western shows used to be the target of these, but today they are very careful on what they write because they can no longer afford getting cancelled or receiving negative news. The top brass are now very quick to cancel shows.
It wouldn't be a surprise if Korea eventually does the same as Western shows.
It's hard to know what the actual sentiment is. If the communist government says it is against their laws… I guess that's also a signal to never disagree with them online.
But still, now we know which States and Nations are sensitive about it. (And interestingly, Korean "netizens" are supporting Vietnam's government.)
Which brings to… the Korean production should've known to be careful about it since their own people are sensitive about historical changes. If their own are sensitive, then they should've expected there are other cultures who are also sensitive like them.
I don't agree with the ban. Fiction is fiction.
Sure, the Koreans have said before, and maybe the Vietnamese will say the same thing, "if it is your own country's history 'distorted' in fiction, you would ban/cancel it too". Sorry but no. My country, my people, we've had our share of "distortions" (to borrow their word) in fiction. While I understand the sentiments, I did not agree with the calls for bans and all that (especially when the government or some agency involved themselves).
There are few people today who understands what 'fiction' is.
We often hear about Koreans (and Chinese) being sensitive on fictional changes, that it should be a reminder for everyone they are not the only ones who take fiction as 'real [history]'.
(At least in the Philippines, things changed for the last xx years. Even though the counrty is often depicted as a haven for Korean criminals, I have not seen anyone reacting badly about it. Yes, it was sad and a disappointment but Filipinos today learned to take fiction as fiction. I hope other countries, like Vietnam, China, and Korea, will one day learn it too.)
^_^
"I personally do not agree with it. However, the Korean production should have been careful about it, especially since they themselves are sensitive about their own history."
I hope that satisfies you. ^_^
If you still do not understand why I shared this news, and the one before it, then I have nothing else to say. Have a great day.
This is an important news because it sheds light on the sensitivities of different cultures. It does not matter what your, his, her, my opinions are on how to approach fiction.
I myself don't agree with the Vietnam government's decision to have the show banned in Netflix Vietnam. But their country, their laws, their decisions. HOWEVER, the Korean production team should have known better because their own people are sensitive about their own history being changed in fiction, to the point that they cancelled shows, and so on.
In this age of interconnectedness, it is essential to understand the different dynamics at play. You may think it will not be of any benefit to you, today or tomorrow, but that knowledge may help you one day.
I can go on the what's and why's of knowing these things if you want.
Or, if something doesn't matter to you, the global SNS rule is to "just scroll". ^_^
OFFICIAL SOURCE
Quoting: Many Korean netizens, also aware of the backlash that the drama has been receiving from Vietnamese netizens, strongly criticized the offensive comments by the character in question. Many expressed, "Are the drama producers crazy? Can they use their brains to think for like once?", "Wow, I'm just embarrassed", "That scene was so bad. Any country would have the right to be offended", "This drama is good, but yeah the anger is totally valid", "I was literally like, 'What the heck,' when that scene came on too...", "Korean dramas are distributed to so many countries nowadays, these kinds of senseless lines won't cut it", "The producers need to apologize. We should know better than to mock other countries' for their sensitive histories", etc.
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/10/tvn-drama-little-women-removed-from-netflix-in-vietnam-due-to-offensive-content
Unfortunately, they do not offer an English subtitle (last checked 2022-10-06).
The playlist is here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLom9SdXHUp4jeqopvUtGgnNEQyPFUrZ-f
I will add new episodes as they are made available.
I may also temporarily add the Live Stream link and then replace it later once the non-live version is up.
In episode eight of the 12-part drama, which is loosely based on the novel of the same name by Louisa May Alcott, a war veteran from South Korea is seen bragging about the "kill-to-death ratio" between troops from his country and the Viet Cong.
More than 320,000 South Koreans were sent to Vietnam between 1964 and 1973 to fight alongside US soldiers.
They have long faced allegations that they committed mass killings of Vietnamese civilians.
The war veteran in the series, a Korean, tells one of the main characters in the show that "in our best battles, the kill-to-death ratio for Korean troops was 20:1. That's 20 Viet Cong killed for one Korean soldier dead".
He then goes on to say the ratio was even higher in South Korea's favour among the country's elite soldiers.
It is not known how many North Vietnamese soldiers were killed by South Korean troops during the war.
Continue reading: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/vietnam-requests-netflix-remove-little-women-k-drama-war-distortion-2989141
Continue reading: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/vietnam-requests-netflix-remove-little-women-k-drama-war-distortion-2989141