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no since it's only being sold after the drama finished airing

when the drama was still airing, they opened up pre-orders for it along with other merch. idk if they started actually selling them or not yet. this isn't uncommon, it's part of the marketing for many dramas

i wouldn't have minded seeing more of that toxic relationship because the tension between them is simply delicious lol but i'm relieved it did not go that way in the end

it gets better on rewatch! and same here, i'm still unable to move on to other things

yeah i imagine that was his 'plan'. up to the nemesis performance, jeongyo seems to have come to terms with two contradicting facts he had been struggling with and decided to live with both : the first is that he still loves pio and wants to make music with him, the second is that he still can't forgive the crime he thought pio committed. i imagine he wanted to obsessively keep pio by his side while tormenting him and himself in the process, which would have been a mirror of what his father did to his mother and we know how that went. it would have been toxic and unhealthy and would have gone the wuthering heights route in the end.

i hope korean fans will share the original script or parts of it as soon as they get their hands on it once it's sold. i so need to learn more about the writing and the original vision for this story

off topic but your username made me miss rowoon, it feels like he's been in the barracks for years 😭

every single day? every waking hour? yeah actually a lot of jeongyo's lines are just so insane to me

you make a very valid point i won't argue with this, thanks for the reply

unfortunately for jeongyo, pio knows the power he holds and jeongyo has no chance against it

i saw that, it's cute!

many of us think the use of familiar tropes, especially ones typical of the romance genre, was deliberate and served a purpose instead of it being lazy writing or a lack of creativity. because the creators couldn't explicitly put the romance label on the two male leads relationship, they had to subvert the restrictions with the same old tropes challenging the audience to read into what's not being said out loud. it felt like their way of saying : we can't say it but let us show you what it is about through the language of tropes everyone is familiar with. i agree with you about the rest of the characters, a bit more of fleshing out wouldn't have hurt

rewatching 4 hands from the start and i have to admit jeongyo has the patience of a saint because pio is my beloved son but my god he could be so irritating. love is indeed blind lol

is it safe to say that the whole 'play music freely' theme of the drama is also in some way about loving freely?

no shame in admitting that jeongpio are in fact kinky lol

understandable, 13 years before they're allowed to be properly together is a lot! and you're welcome, i learnt a lot from everyone sharing their thoughts and opinions and feel grateful as well. it made the drama even more special to me

sorry for butting in but i like your take here tho i don't agree with the 3 years gap part. i wasn't sure about it at first but after giving it some thought i see why it was needed. after all they went through, pio and jeongyo needed to relearn to exist separately and to find themselves again outside the frame of guilt, revenge and the painful past. knowing how naturally they gravitate towards each other and especially how pio would react to the loss of his right hand mobility, jeongyo maybe thought enforcing a physical distance between them was the best option to break the cycle. and he was kinda right : pio is finally playing the piano freely after finding his peace of mind away from all pressure and pretense, jeongyo is making music that's comforting and creating a human connection. when pio learns the truth about jeongyo's hand, he plays nocturne with an unburdened heart filled with only love and longing, and jeongyo hears that call as it is, understands what it means and that's why he sends the postcard with enough hints to be found, because enough time have passed by then and now they're both ready to be together again

i agree, he seems to have improved since navillera, he also looks so young there it's kind of endearing. pio will forever be special in my eyes and heart and it's all thanks to his portrayal of him. it's a complex character and he nailed it to a T, especially his vulnerable side. in the 2nd part i was thinking the whole time how it's been while since i saw an actor make depression and fragility feel so palpable without a single word. so yeah kudos to him and junyoung too. they were the beating heart of the drama and they delivered the best performance

yes! their revenge arc is what i call in my head : love and leashes, jeongpio edition 😁

the angst was delicious but also, and this is my mind in the gutter speaking lol, there was something buzzy (as the kids say these days) about it. like yes jeongyo was extra mean but pio was very consenting and they both played into that game. the scene when jaein walks on them after hearing jeongyo insult pio in their one on one session, it felt like she interrupted something and their reaction is lowkey funny to me with jeongyo literally getting pissed and pio dragging her out and away like this is our thing you're not supposed to see it lol