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You never know...some people's self esteem is so bad, they may feel they don't deserve any better. Can't always predict human behavior.

Yes, he approached her, but she is the one that told him everything. She knew he would help. I'm not saying that she was being manipulative or anything, but she did know he would help her, even if he just gave her advice.

Can't really say what would happen in real life. If a real person went through the same stuff as
GR did, the results could be the same or they might be different...depends on the person.

😂...true.

Maybe he'll have him work in the restaurant as well.

You're right about Gyumin. She is a very smart, savvy girl. Smarter than Gyuoh! She's just too young to do anything to resolve Gyuoh's situation, so her only option is to go to Mujin.

😂...The Great Mujin. They are making him out to be a superhero.

It would be nice if at some point, we get to see Gyurim step up and "save" him in some way.

I agree. While he may still have debt, at least he won't have any more debt added. That should be such a relief for him.

It sure seems like it!

After watching ep 18...

- I'm astounded at the depths of Seohyeon's childishness and selfishness. It may be too little too late, but I'm glad Dad finally said what he did to her. Maybe I'm being harsh, but she is just cold-blooded or maybe black hearted is a better term.

- part of me was hoping that Gyurim would remain cold to her mom, and I guess she will try to be cold at first, but will probably fold later on. Mom should not get a free pass though.

- where is quick change artist Heungsik changing/storing his designer clothes? 😂 Also, can't believe he gave that suit to Gyuyeong.

- I really, really love those twins! You have to give Gyurim credit for helping to raise them so well.

- Mujin is just taking care of everybody!

With Heungsik's mom having a winning lottery ticket, she should hold to the bargain and not make them leave the house. If she tries to weasel out of it, Heungsik will (should) make her honor it.

Yes, I know you are right.

Yeah, that would just make me mad.

Yes, can't wait!

Yeah, that would break my heart.

I'm holding onto the idea that he now sees through all of that pushing away that she does and he's determined to not let go, no matter how much she tries to make him let go.

I do agree that she is weak-willed, afraid and hanging on to what she has (Gyeol) with everything that she has.

I just think she's somewhat justified in her actions over these 8 yrs or so, based on everything she has gone through. Even though it's frustrating!

Keeping my fingers crossed!!

You could be right...hoping that she will change sooner rather than later.

Updating my comment to add:
I wonder what will make her change. Will it be one big something that happens? Or will it be Mujin's continual affirmations and confidence boosters that eventually make her fears go away?

Whatever it will be, I think I'm here for it!

I was thinking that it was that way, but I wasn't sure. I needed that one line of dialogue to make me feel pretty certain her character was written that way.

I'm looking forward to her breaking out of that...waking up so to speak.

Good post...yes, Gyurim has been completely beaten down in a lot of ways for a long time.

It will take Mujin more time to break down those defenses, it's just frustrating to watch. On one hand, I'm a little afraid that he will give up, on the other I'm thinking that since he "came back" to her, he won't give up again.

I don't think Gyurim knows that...how would she? But again, I could be wrong!!

Yesterday's episode was "the good, the bad, and the ugly" for me.
The "good"
- the time that Gyurim, Mujin and Gyeol spent together and how sweet Mujin is to Gyurim.
- Heungsik's defense of Gyurim to his mom. He put her in her place.

The "bad" - both Yun Hui and Seohyeon. Their selfishness has no end and I have zero sympathy for both.

The "ugly" - Gyuyeong's drunken rampage at the house...for the first time, I thought the acting was way too much. Just my opinion and others may not agree. I think it's time for her to character to have some growth, so bring
the marriage farce to an end soon.

Some other observations...
After hearing Mujin say something to the effect of "I was able to make Gyurim laugh" has me convinced that Gyurim's lack of expression/sleepwalking is a director's/writer's choice. Again, just my opinion and I could be wrong.

As I mentioned in an earlier reply to @Aera8, Gyurim's reasoning for not being with Mujin doesn't make sense. Who exactly is going to be hurt if they are together? Why can't she see them being together to the end?
If the writer just needs them to be apart for the show's sake, come up with a better reason.

Gyurim's statement about someone getting hurt if they are together doesn't make sense...if she isn't with him, Mujin will be the one that is hurt the most. Outside of him, who exactly is going to get hurt?

Updating my comment to make more sense...
Outside of him being the one most hurt if they aren't together, who is going to be hurt if they are together?

They look happy in it.

Yeah, I see what you are saying, but we don't really know what happened. As you said, how was Gyeol able to attend school, etc if Gyurim had no documentation for him?

If bio mom comes back and wants Gyeol, would she have any recourse since she abandoned Gyeol?

I don't really know what to think...