Again, I want to write to show my appreciation to the ending.I really feel this is the most acceptable ending…
Deus ex machina is the worst to end a story. I am happy this drama didn't fall for this cheap and easy way out to solve the main conflict, and took deviation from the novel ending. It is really a brave act to create something different and to some extents, refuse to obey the pressure of fans. This drama serves the fans without losing its mission to tell us the more valuable thing in life, portrayed in TTJ's life, from his birth to his death. It is what I like the most. Despite the unsatisfying ending, the story is popular and talked widely by fans internationally.
When TTJ finally reached godhood, it was the ultimate, and there should be nothing above it. He is an unparalleled being in the world of the story. It would be funny if he would be reincarnated to be a mortal again (and die again). Imagining him as desired by viewers to have happy family life is downgrading him as a character, because his life would turn to be mundane.
I am confused by the ending? What happened to tantai jun at the end?
He becomes god. But, because he destroyed the evil bone, his body was destroyed to along with his power. However, his immortal spirit remained and was stored in the dragon scale, in LSS possession. Based on the novel, 500 years later he would reincarnate to mortal world.
Despite the sin, the war, tragedy and chaos, life and death, "This world looks so small. But what a shame, only you and I can see such views." LSS
"The mountains are like peas. The rivers are like lines. Even the All-in distress Way looks just like a tiny speck of stain. Every living soul is too small to be visible. This is what the gods see. The mortals living in it will never see such scenery even after exhausting their whole lives. That's why they can never see through. That's why they can never break free." TTJ
Episode 40
TTJ's wisdom reminds me of "the pale blue dot" (Carl Sagan).
The depiction of the world from above is very metaphorical. It is like saying: Here in the Earth, we are fighting for things we think as the most important and destroying one each other for ambitions. But, if we see it from "god's perspective", those are actually not important. We keep fighting and getting hurt because we are stuck in worldly perspectives. We need to look from above, for the bigger picture.
I COME BACK AND I HAD TO REFRESH TO SEE IF MY EYES WERE SEEING THINGS RIGHT?? WHY IS THE RATING GOING DOWN???…
IMO, LBFAD is a drama that is playing safe. Most people love comedy, romance, and fantasy. LBFAD is the best in the genres so far. The story is lighter and brighter, intended to make us laugh and have fun. The tragedy is momentary. In the end, it must be happy again. Even though it tells about a so called demon lord as the main character (it is quite refreshing), the drama is metaphorically like a person standing in the beach, enjoying the sea. The wave just touches the tip of his toe. It doesn't make us swim and dive further to explore what good and evil is.
TTEOM is a tragedy, romance, and fantasy drama. The story is darker and more heart-wrenching. The comedy is momentary, the sadness is abundant. The purpose for serving us with this sadness is to make us crying, pondering, and gaining insights for the betterment of ourselves. The drama is like a person that finally throws himself into that sea, and gets drowned with the ideas of war between good and evil. From observing what evil is and how it materializes in a person, we learn about what good is and how to be good.
Not all people can enjoy this type of story, so the drama has more risk of being disliked. It is harder to watch TTEOM than LBFAD, it is easier to love LBFAD than TTEOM and give it higher rating. I personally don't mind about the rating, as long as it comes from honest viewers. Future viewers have the rights to be informed so that they are ready as the story is not for everyone. If you want to compare, it is fairer to compare TTEOM with other tragedy xianxia, not LBFAD.
Okay, so let me understand something.Apparently one of the things people keep complaining is how it was 56 episode…
For the poor editing in episode 33, I easily ignore it because the purpose of that episode is pretty clear.
As long as we get the point, we actually can tolerate it. So, why should some people still look for what is absent and don't enjoy what is present? I agree with you about the expectations.
Objectively speaking, there are easy methods to judge whether a story has happy or sad ending. The main characters usually appear earliest in the first episode. If they are still exist in the most final scene in the last episode, it means they are still alive. Then we compare their before-after situation/ condition (from first and last episodes). If the final is better that their initial situation/ condition when the story starts, it is a happy one.
In TTEOM we saw: TTJ is the first and the last. Before, he is a demon god and alone. After, he is a good god and has a wife and a daughter. Before, the world is in the brink of total annihilation. After, the world is in peace. From the story itself, it is a good/ happy ending, no matter the journey is full of angst and adversity.
However, we are allowed to have subjective experience over a story too. Thus, our judgement can be also subjective, reflecting more about ourselves (hope, desire, expectation, personality, and way of thinking). We use the story as a mirror to see ourselves. We want the story support or validate our worldview, what should and shouldn't. This is why we can feel disappointed or satisfied/ like or dislike a story.
So, beyond what is objectively shown in the story (I mean, things we all can see and no dispute about it), is our subjectivity. People are in conflict about TTEOM ending (it is normal). The difference is a difference in watching experience. When love, family, and happiness become the main issues disputed in TTEOM ending, it is showing that many of us desire, value, and prioritize this three things a lot higher then other things in life, like achievement, freedom, or the greater good. This should be a suggestion for future drama maker to create a show that satisfy viewers' deepest desires.
I am very sad about the rating. Went down again. LBFAD could stay so long but not this one. Even though rating…
Let people have their own judgement. The future is long ahead. If you believe in the value of this show, it will pass the test of time in the long run.
"Waiting for his coming back to be a lovely family together."SEEE ITS A HAPPY OPEN ENDING.Where did you all found…
It takes time to relearn about the ending and grasp insights from others. Those who at first feel disappointed have chance to consider alternative perspectives.
Iām on episode 26 and have lost interest in this drama. Itās been over 2 weeks and I donāt have the desire…
Skip the rest episodes (because it is indeed toxic). Episode 30-36 have good romance, I hope you can watch it. If you may continue to the last episode, you will get some closure for all mystery surrounding Ancient Demon God. It is very interesting to watch the green eyed demon has some screen time.
Any love triangles? Also what's his power level compared to other xianxia characters? Is he stronger than Dongfang…
1. No love triangle. 2. He is the strongest IMO, as Demon God. He can threaten and annihilate all realms. 3. The role of Demon God here is parallel to Tai Sui (the Evil God) in LBFD. But Tai Sui is stupid and only works by manipulation and use other' hands to revive. No real power. He was just a smoke.
DFQC was only portrayed as evil in the back story. In all episodes, we never see him killing anyone or doing evil like a devil. Instead, he is the one who got punished by his society for loving Lanhua. If he was TTJ, he would have destroyed those people who refused his will.
The fight is rare, and DFQC fight against god of war was not really a combat, just a magic show. No weapon. No casualties. Just a threat to immortals. He just left them behind after the victory. It is because he got his weakness so early in the drama.
In TTEOM, we can see varieties of real combat with weapons as well as magic. The story is not afraid of showing some degree of cruelty. If DFQC was TTJ, he would have killed the god of war without thinking. He would not be afraid of death even under a spell, and would have intimidated Lanhua instead.
Till the last episode, I still hope there is a way out for TTJ to not sacrifice himself. But, there is a problem inherent to the story premise, which makes his survival might turn illogical.
The enemy in this drama is internal (bounded to himself), not external. The enemy is in his own body. Thus, TTJ must fight against/ defeat himself. Because the Demon God is the most supreme in the realm (no being is above him, almost no weakness), it must take extreme measure to defeat him. The solution for this type of problem is absolutely and only self-sacrifice. This type of enemy and problem solving appeared in LBFD (when DFQC was possessed by Tai Sui, he was killed too).
It will be different if the enemy is external, like Qing Cang from TMOPB or Miao Luo from Eternal Love of Dream. Here we can have two alternative solutions: self-sacrifice OR just get (even just a little bit) stronger than the enemy, whether by collaboration with your lover and friends or by using more lethal weapon or by miracle or Deus Ex Machina (like fox blood in Eternal Love of Dream). Your life could still be threatened, but you won't die.
Maybe, if the Devil Bone is not in TTJ's heart (the most important organ), he would still has a chance to survive (see? the author could put it in his eyes, brain, or foot, so just cut his foot, dig out his eyes, or remove part of his brain). He might be in the brink of death for a while, but death could be evaded maybe by the help of LSS's super power.
So, it is just acceptable that he must die that way.
It is just my conclusion, with lesson: if you don't want your main character to die, just don't create too powerful, too intelligent, and too heartless enemy/ antagonist.
Stop acting like drama TTJ is most the innocent character there ever to exist. Yes, the drama did tone down his…
I don't think so. This drama is an adaptation. Drama and novel are completely different medium of storytelling. Each has different ups and downs. A novel can be extensive, but it requires readers active and rich imagination. A drama materialize the story, but it cannot run forever and is regulated more strictly.
Drama maker has the right to choose what to include and exclude from the novel. It is the risk. More or less, a drama definitely has reduced content. But, what is reduced, it is on the hand of producers/ directors/ script writers. We audience are in more passive position.
So, it is wiser to treat drama and novel as complementary materials. There is no need to compare, contrast, and conflict them, because both serve us. For what you cannot see in the drama, you still can find it in the novel. For what you are hard to imagine from the novel, you can enjoy the live adaptation.
He has confessed his love for her directly three times! But she, I can't really figure out what kind of emotion…
I see that too. Guilt is part of her psychology because she did something bad to TTJ. But later she apologized. In episode 35, she kissed TTJ chest in his heart.
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When TTJ finally reached godhood, it was the ultimate, and there should be nothing above it. He is an unparalleled being in the world of the story. It would be funny if he would be reincarnated to be a mortal again (and die again). Imagining him as desired by viewers to have happy family life is downgrading him as a character, because his life would turn to be mundane.
The storm it caused has long passed... and we are in a much calmer state now.
"The mountains are like peas. The rivers are like lines. Even the All-in distress Way looks just like a tiny speck of stain. Every living soul is too small to be visible. This is what the gods see. The mortals living in it will never see such scenery even after exhausting their whole lives. That's why they can never see through. That's why they can never break free." TTJ
Episode 40
TTJ's wisdom reminds me of "the pale blue dot" (Carl Sagan).
The depiction of the world from above is very metaphorical. It is like saying: Here in the Earth, we are fighting for things we think as the most important and destroying one each other for ambitions. But, if we see it from "god's perspective", those are actually not important. We keep fighting and getting hurt because we are stuck in worldly perspectives. We need to look from above, for the bigger picture.
Thanks LSS and TJJ for seeing this for us.
TTEOM is a tragedy, romance, and fantasy drama. The story is darker and more heart-wrenching. The comedy is momentary, the sadness is abundant. The purpose for serving us with this sadness is to make us crying, pondering, and gaining insights for the betterment of ourselves. The drama is like a person that finally throws himself into that sea, and gets drowned with the ideas of war between good and evil. From observing what evil is and how it materializes in a person, we learn about what good is and how to be good.
Not all people can enjoy this type of story, so the drama has more risk of being disliked. It is harder to watch TTEOM than LBFAD, it is easier to love LBFAD than TTEOM and give it higher rating. I personally don't mind about the rating, as long as it comes from honest viewers. Future viewers have the rights to be informed so that they are ready as the story is not for everyone. If you want to compare, it is fairer to compare TTEOM with other tragedy xianxia, not LBFAD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfsqX2q6iI0&list=OLAK5uy_nMzpLgr9k0t5oBTrKltdkW9xnaIkdweRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGvbLqNXTL8&list=PL1Xfog3T5TZXqxX8k5kd2JHWQi6ThDhlL&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUpNy-NVgVQ&list=OLAK5uy_kjn0LqIiHjWwSdSemW5Q8UXL4YmYf9d3g
As long as we get the point, we actually can tolerate it. So, why should some people still look for what is absent and don't enjoy what is present? I agree with you about the expectations.
In TTEOM we saw: TTJ is the first and the last. Before, he is a demon god and alone. After, he is a good god and has a wife and a daughter. Before, the world is in the brink of total annihilation. After, the world is in peace. From the story itself, it is a good/ happy ending, no matter the journey is full of angst and adversity.
However, we are allowed to have subjective experience over a story too. Thus, our judgement can be also subjective, reflecting more about ourselves (hope, desire, expectation, personality, and way of thinking). We use the story as a mirror to see ourselves. We want the story support or validate our worldview, what should and shouldn't. This is why we can feel disappointed or satisfied/ like or dislike a story.
So, beyond what is objectively shown in the story (I mean, things we all can see and no dispute about it), is our subjectivity. People are in conflict about TTEOM ending (it is normal). The difference is a difference in watching experience. When love, family, and happiness become the main issues disputed in TTEOM ending, it is showing that many of us desire, value, and prioritize this three things a lot higher then other things in life, like achievement, freedom, or the greater good. This should be a suggestion for future drama maker to create a show that satisfy viewers' deepest desires.
I love our discussion here.
2. He is the strongest IMO, as Demon God. He can threaten and annihilate all realms.
3. The role of Demon God here is parallel to Tai Sui (the Evil God) in LBFD. But Tai Sui is stupid and only works by manipulation and use other' hands to revive. No real power. He was just a smoke.
DFQC was only portrayed as evil in the back story. In all episodes, we never see him killing anyone or doing evil like a devil. Instead, he is the one who got punished by his society for loving Lanhua. If he was TTJ, he would have destroyed those people who refused his will.
The fight is rare, and DFQC fight against god of war was not really a combat, just a magic show. No weapon. No casualties. Just a threat to immortals. He just left them behind after the victory. It is because he got his weakness so early in the drama.
In TTEOM, we can see varieties of real combat with weapons as well as magic. The story is not afraid of showing some degree of cruelty. If DFQC was TTJ, he would have killed the god of war without thinking. He would not be afraid of death even under a spell, and would have intimidated Lanhua instead.
So, TTJ/ Demon God is stronger.
The enemy in this drama is internal (bounded to himself), not external. The enemy is in his own body. Thus, TTJ must fight against/ defeat himself. Because the Demon God is the most supreme in the realm (no being is above him, almost no weakness), it must take extreme measure to defeat him. The solution for this type of problem is absolutely and only self-sacrifice. This type of enemy and problem solving appeared in LBFD (when DFQC was possessed by Tai Sui, he was killed too).
It will be different if the enemy is external, like Qing Cang from TMOPB or Miao Luo from Eternal Love of Dream. Here we can have two alternative solutions: self-sacrifice OR just get (even just a little bit) stronger than the enemy, whether by collaboration with your lover and friends or by using more lethal weapon or by miracle or Deus Ex Machina (like fox blood in Eternal Love of Dream). Your life could still be threatened, but you won't die.
Maybe, if the Devil Bone is not in TTJ's heart (the most important organ), he would still has a chance to survive (see? the author could put it in his eyes, brain, or foot, so just cut his foot, dig out his eyes, or remove part of his brain). He might be in the brink of death for a while, but death could be evaded maybe by the help of LSS's super power.
So, it is just acceptable that he must die that way.
It is just my conclusion, with lesson: if you don't want your main character to die, just don't create too powerful, too intelligent, and too heartless enemy/ antagonist.
Drama maker has the right to choose what to include and exclude from the novel. It is the risk. More or less, a drama definitely has reduced content. But, what is reduced, it is on the hand of producers/ directors/ script writers. We audience are in more passive position.
So, it is wiser to treat drama and novel as complementary materials. There is no need to compare, contrast, and conflict them, because both serve us. For what you cannot see in the drama, you still can find it in the novel. For what you are hard to imagine from the novel, you can enjoy the live adaptation.
Be flexible and you may enjoy more.