I also wondered why AE's personality is so DIFFERENT from Enaga's??? Like, aren't you the same person? I get the…
Personally I like to think that Enaga is his core/original personality, and he gets confidence boost and changes once he "wears" AE image. I wouldn't necessarily separate them though. Ultimately it's still the same person and after "doing" AE for so long, I'm sure both sides started mixing to some extent.
I also wondered why AE's personality is so DIFFERENT from Enaga's??? Like, aren't you the same person? I get the…
He's putting an entirely different persona on while dressing up as AE. Kinda similar to some people who are shy introverts but become charismatic on stage - it's like you're tapping to a completely different person which allows you to act the way you normally wouldn't I guess. It's almost a performance.
I lowkey dislike both mls 😠Also how doesn't chiaki recognize his so called bias
Well... come to think of it, I probably like Enaga only (excluding AE). Still, the drama itself has been a lot of fun so far! :)
Originally I thought the whole identity thingy is a case of audience having to suspend their disbelief in order to go on (kinda like while watching Superman movies or Sailor Moon ;)), but the more I watch, the more I am willing to believe it's somewhat possible :P
- First of all, AE and Enaga have completely different vibes. They talk different, they walk different, they have the same physique but literally everything else about them is very different. - Secondly, who would actually assume they'd meet their celebrity crush in regular daily life? It's way more likely to just assume someone resembles a famous person than to actually believe it's the same person. - Also, just the idea of having a friend who has a secret identity is so outlandish, if I was in Chiaki's shoes I would never assume that about anyone I know :P - Finally, Chiaki's crush about AE is more about his confident aura than anything else (e.i. he's not fanboying over his face or eyes or body, but over how he moves/how he "shines" - thus, he clearly focuses more on these things). - Some people are just really bad with faces lol
I really enjoy this drama, but I might need some advice on *how* to survive the princess, her self-entitled behaviour and constant harassment of the dude she married? istg
Drop. This is not the case of a drama that starts underwhelmingly and later gets better. The pacing is pretty…
In my impression it was strong all along, hence my original comment, but if you enjoyed it at first and find it a bit slow now, I suppose there's hope you will like it again ;) They do talk a fair amount of time tbh. But all this talk, TLC strategizing etc. is part of the fun for me.
I've started Whispers Of Fate and am on ep3 but I'm not enjoying this. Will it continue to be like this or will…
Drop. This is not the case of a drama that starts underwhelmingly and later gets better. The pacing is pretty even throughout the whole story and the vibe is consistent. I'd say, if you don't enjoy it at this point, it's very likely it's just not your cup of tea. Unless you're watching with some messed up subtitles and bcs of that can't follow the story... some ppl seemed to have that issue.
Would be lovely if Taiwan thought of selling some streaming rights to international platforms to dramas other than just BLs... Here comes another show that I'd love to check out because of the cast alone, but will have to pass cause have nowhere to watch it (sigh).
Suggest me wuxia dramas with super strong ml/fl/both
Journey To Love. In my humble opinion, you won't find a better example of both actually strong and smart FL and ML. Only it doesn't have fantasy elements. However, there's still plenty of adventure!
I honestly don't want LY to die....Okay, before coming for me listen first....I kind of want the redemption arc…
I don't want him to die either :)
Only that I sort of like his character (or like his presence in the show might be more accurate). Though I agree with your point abt TLC and LY's redemption too.
Well... where are you watching? I found some subtitles more confusing than others. Viki has really good subs in…
Aaah, I wouldn't know then. I watch it with English subs and these on Viki seem really good (I feel they catch the "essence" and mood of the dialogues - not that I understand much of Mandarin, but they just seem to work better for me ;) They maybe over translate at times, with switching "da ge" into "mr." etc., but overall they're really good.
Either way, to your original point, I think this drama does require a bit of brain work (probably not something you'd wanna watch while doing chores and just glancing over from time to time, especially with flashbacks and riddle-like conversations). Luckily, Chi Yun is usually clueless and gets things spelled out for him by someone of the group (usually one of the girls), so the audience can always count on those explanations ;) Still, I feel like enjoying Tang Li Ci's strategizing and conversing with others is half of the fun, so good subtitles are essential to follow the story and enjoying the drama.
I’m on episode 7, and the plot is so confusing that I don’t understand anything. I’m not sure if I should…
Well... where are you watching? I found some subtitles more confusing than others. Viki has really good subs in my opinion, so I'm actually switching to watch it there starting from ep 10.
Oh, definitely A Journey to Love! Have you checked that one out yet? He surely steals the show in that one for…
I've already started Whispers of Fate. So far it is soooo good, I am completely satisfied by what it's serving (wuxia, road story, crime mystery and this sort of spiritual/mystical vibe. ahhh, it's so, so good).
Oh, definitely A Journey to Love! Have you checked that one out yet? He surely steals the show in that one for…
If you haven't watched it yet, I second the recommendation. Journey to Love is a great drama with a multitude of amazing, multi-layered, fun characters, the one played by him being my favourite.
Parallels/Contrasts: Victor - Faced with an opportunity that Trin took by going to France.Trin - Embracing his…
I don't think you're overthinking, these are intentional analogies and make the story more interesting. We as audience, get to see the whole spectrum of acting/reacting to life situations. I think the writing is really good on that aspect of the drama.
It doesn't make sense for me how these two fell in love. Forget that they have nothing in common, that alone could…
I like what you wrote, because it shows you clearly watch the show with great attention and can provide valid arguments to your opinion - I found them quite insightful. Still, even after reading all you wrote, I feel like those things were lost on me. I mean, they look good here, in your writing, "on paper" but I don't feel I experienced them while watching the show (and I actually like it when stories don't spell everything out for the audience, but I guess Trin and Tanwa's epic connection was really too subtle for me ;)).
Take for example that scene when Trin stepped into the rain. As pretty as it was as a standalone scene, I didn't really feel its significance. It's not like Trin is portrayed as this supressed guy who lack spontaneity. He has no problem taking of his suit or get high on cannabis pretty much from the get-go. Hence why this rain-scene is not some big break-through for his character in my eyes, just a pretty piece of cinematography. And those philosophical conversation he has with Tanwa... sound more like ramblings of a dude who's high to me, maybe my soul is not poetic enough to see them the way you do ;)
Having said that, I did like what happened between them in episode 6, which I just finished. I feel like - aside from the conversation at the beach - I saw them really bond in a meaningful way: Tanwa waiting for Trin and being his comfort after everything that happened did earn him some points in my eyes. The following conversation when Trin opened up about his trauma, them talking about cherishing the moments that already had passed (well, Trin did most of the talking, but I felt like what he said was really resonating with Tanwa this time). So... I guess what I am trying to say is that the show is somewhat rectifying what I considered its previous flaws in developing this relationship. It doesn't change how I feel abt Trin/Tanwa's beginnings, but at the very least I can enjoy where they're heading, I suppose ;)
Am I the only one who's totally not into the relationship between Trin and Tanwa?
It doesn't make sense for me how these two fell in love. Forget that they have nothing in common, that alone could be fine, opposites attract, maybe Trin is attracted to Tanwa's free spirit and whatnot, but I feel like we as audience didn't really see them resonate emotionally at all. The second CP, even if their relationship is in great majority physical, had those moments of connecting intellectually, corresponding with each other, exchanging thoughts... and now they're clashing over their life attitudes. We can see the depth. Victor and Trin - as misguided as some of Victor's "courting attempts" were, have this entire huge thing where they want to change the world and make it a better place to connect over. And we get to witness that: initially we see them clash, then over the time Trin wins Victor's trust and heart as they both strive to make a difference. Meanwhile, what happens with Tanwa and Trin? Tanwa disrupts Trin's work, gets high, has a public fight with his father... Literally, the only time I felt there was some connection between Trin and Tanwa was when Tanwa told Trin about his mother - and yet it felt abrupt for me, bcs... well... I didn't really feel like I experienced them getting close to each other.
Originally I thought the whole identity thingy is a case of audience having to suspend their disbelief in order to go on (kinda like while watching Superman movies or Sailor Moon ;)), but the more I watch, the more I am willing to believe it's somewhat possible :P
- First of all, AE and Enaga have completely different vibes. They talk different, they walk different, they have the same physique but literally everything else about them is very different.
- Secondly, who would actually assume they'd meet their celebrity crush in regular daily life? It's way more likely to just assume someone resembles a famous person than to actually believe it's the same person.
- Also, just the idea of having a friend who has a secret identity is so outlandish, if I was in Chiaki's shoes I would never assume that about anyone I know :P
- Finally, Chiaki's crush about AE is more about his confident aura than anything else (e.i. he's not fanboying over his face or eyes or body, but over how he moves/how he "shines" - thus, he clearly focuses more on these things).
- Some people are just really bad with faces lol
They do talk a fair amount of time tbh. But all this talk, TLC strategizing etc. is part of the fun for me.
Unless you're watching with some messed up subtitles and bcs of that can't follow the story... some ppl seemed to have that issue.
In my humble opinion, you won't find a better example of both actually strong and smart FL and ML.
Only it doesn't have fantasy elements. However, there's still plenty of adventure!
Only that I sort of like his character (or like his presence in the show might be more accurate). Though I agree with your point abt TLC and LY's redemption too.
Either way, to your original point, I think this drama does require a bit of brain work (probably not something you'd wanna watch while doing chores and just glancing over from time to time, especially with flashbacks and riddle-like conversations). Luckily, Chi Yun is usually clueless and gets things spelled out for him by someone of the group (usually one of the girls), so the audience can always count on those explanations ;)
Still, I feel like enjoying Tang Li Ci's strategizing and conversing with others is half of the fun, so good subtitles are essential to follow the story and enjoying the drama.
Take for example that scene when Trin stepped into the rain. As pretty as it was as a standalone scene, I didn't really feel its significance. It's not like Trin is portrayed as this supressed guy who lack spontaneity. He has no problem taking of his suit or get high on cannabis pretty much from the get-go. Hence why this rain-scene is not some big break-through for his character in my eyes, just a pretty piece of cinematography. And those philosophical conversation he has with Tanwa... sound more like ramblings of a dude who's high to me, maybe my soul is not poetic enough to see them the way you do ;)
Having said that, I did like what happened between them in episode 6, which I just finished. I feel like - aside from the conversation at the beach - I saw them really bond in a meaningful way: Tanwa waiting for Trin and being his comfort after everything that happened did earn him some points in my eyes. The following conversation when Trin opened up about his trauma, them talking about cherishing the moments that already had passed (well, Trin did most of the talking, but I felt like what he said was really resonating with Tanwa this time). So... I guess what I am trying to say is that the show is somewhat rectifying what I considered its previous flaws in developing this relationship. It doesn't change how I feel abt Trin/Tanwa's beginnings, but at the very least I can enjoy where they're heading, I suppose ;)
Victor and Trin - as misguided as some of Victor's "courting attempts" were, have this entire huge thing where they want to change the world and make it a better place to connect over. And we get to witness that: initially we see them clash, then over the time Trin wins Victor's trust and heart as they both strive to make a difference.
Meanwhile, what happens with Tanwa and Trin? Tanwa disrupts Trin's work, gets high, has a public fight with his father... Literally, the only time I felt there was some connection between Trin and Tanwa was when Tanwa told Trin about his mother - and yet it felt abrupt for me, bcs... well... I didn't really feel like I experienced them getting close to each other.