ashesinthewind

Yes, this is what I thought while watching episode 13, too. The Hill/Ter SL is not only too long, but also confusing, because it was told in too many episodes completely out of order, with many flashbacks: before they officially met, then when they met at school, the sister, the families, then university, then them confessing, but not getting together for ages, etc. I hate saying things about people getting fired, but whoever wrote this script and whoever edited the series could've done a much, much, much better job.

Johan and North being a main couple isn't adding up at all. This was episode 13 and HillTer still got half of it for a flashback that was completely unnecessary, IMO. It's not like we didn't know they've liked each other for a long time.

Hill and Ter have had the first 5 episodes completely for themselves, and no, the Johan/North meeting at the door in episode 5 that lasted less than a minute doesn't count. There was exactly one episode that was about North and Johan only (episode 8). The rest has been split about 50/50. With only 3 episodes left, they can't even this out, considering that there's even a side couple in the Johan/North SL.

Why are more Hill and Ter flashbacks necessary? They were starry-eyed for each other since the very beginning of the series and we got it. Them not being together was not because of them, but because of their families. There was no relationship to develop here because they were already into each other. Is it really necessary to know how many times in the past they've met?

There's the backstory of Johan falling in love with North, but so far, we've received only crumbs, and again, only 3 episodes left. Why not show that instead of Hill and Ter's flashback that has no relevance for their SL at all? It would've made more sense to show how and why Johan fell for North to such an extend without North knowing.

Plz, let the last three episodes be about Johan and North only, together with the side couple, and Hill and Ter only as background characters.

The first NC scene went on for 5 whole minutes. Seriously. And it was a good one, not a second wasted. ;)

There's just one word for this show - wholesome. This happens very rarely, but I really wish all of it was released for me to binge it.

Well, Johan did save him from getting sexually assaulted. Maybe this is what North means?

Don't get me wrong, I understand what you mean, but I think that North's growing affection, if we can call it that, is based on gestures like knowing that Johan did things to cover up North's involvement in the bar fight, saving him from Day and the other two thugs, taking care of him all night after that, etc. IMO North is paying attention to all of this more than to Johan's general behaviour, which is obviously both possessive and obssessive to the fault.

Also, I'm not saying North enjoys being bought, but he seems to enjoy the kissing. ;) Honestly, I think he's still conflicted about the whole situation and is still trying to sort it out, at the same time going along with what Johan wants because he feels some sort of gratitude towards him and is physically attracted to him.

Hill and Ter: have liked each other since forever, mutually and very obviously, confessed their love in episode 7, became boyfriends 5 (!!) episodes later. Hill was in a towel and horny, but if I remember correctly, there was mainly a very long conversation between. All of the latter took more than half of episode 12.

Johan and North: started as a totally one-sided relationship, with obssessive and clingy Johan doing anything to keep North in his proximity, no matter what. Johan just confessed in the last episode, but these two are kissing (and not just lightly) every time they see each other, despite North not being clear about his feelings yet. My guess is that they will become official very soon, either in the next or in the episode after it.

Yup, I enjoyed the second half of the episode more than the first and I like Johan and North's chemistry, but if I have to be completely honest, both relationships are kinda weird.

This was, imho, the best NC scene ForceBook have had until now. They really have improved a lot. I didn't feel them in Only Friends, but here I'm all for them 100%.

MarcPoon were thrown together by random and yet it works. Loved how direct and straightfoward Pond and Sand were, in contrast to ArmArc.

I didn't expect the enjoy this series as much as I do! Right now, gmmtv really are serving.

I wanna second what everyone is saying, this was a great start! I knew I was going to like this since the pilot trailer, but so far it's even better than I expected, I watched the first episode twice already.

Gmmtv are serving right now, I'm enjoying all 3 BLs (and Pluto too) they've got going.

They wasted the precious North and Johan airing time on Ter and the others urging North to date Johan. Really, let him be, he'll get there at his own pace and when he's ready. I'm amazed how he could stay so calm, I would've exploded at some time and told them to stfu.

But North is a cool, chill and relaxed person and can endure a lot, apparently, with Johan who used to order him around and his friends (Ter especially) not leaving him alone about Johan.

Can we please have more scenes of North and Johan together? The chemistry is there, they can be sweet and funny with each other and North will get there without having Ter and his other friends pressure him.

At least he's not letting them or anyone else influence him, at least this is what I see. He rejected his ex-girlfriend because he wanted to and he's giving Johan a chance because he wants to and not because his friends tell him to, so they should just stop. He was all smiley and looked happy when Johan kept hugging him, unlike with Day, who he didn't want anywhere near him. Just... I need them to interact more in person, because their chemistry, the visuals and the feelings are there, simmering, and need to be let out.

And no, I'm not saying North is in love with Johan, because he isn't yet, but if he's willing to open up for the possibility, he isn't indifferent. It's a beginning.

One last thing - if North did absolutely NOT want Johan to kiss him, he would've rejected him resolutely, like he did with his ex-girlfriend and Day. Johan gave him the option to do that. Maybe I'm biased, but I see no sexual harrassment here. Also, if you look closely, North was kissing back. :)

Bison definitely has hidden depths, very dark ones. Someone on YouTube commented after the last episode that he's scarier and more dangerous than Fadel and I agree, especially after this episode.

Prediction: Fadel will turn out to be the most devoted, loving and softest boyfriend and this is what will make Style fall for him at the end, while Bison clearly will be the more possessive and dominant one in his relationship and Kant will have some adjustment to do.

I personally love it. So far, this continues to be one in my top 3 favourite BLs this year.

I agree with everyone here that they shouldn't have waited for 10 episodes to show why Hill and Ter got separated and why there was a misunderstanding, but I still think it was necessary for it to be shown, because it's a very real problem young people in love, especially same-sex couples, still have today - their families are against their love, they are too young to be able to fight for it and this is the result. I liked it, even though I seem to be the only one here. It happens and I'm glad they finally cleared that up.

Again, they should've done it long ago, it was overdue.

North is still my favourite character and I'm still watching mainly for him and Johan, they are more exciting and interesting as a couple for me, but a fair warning for everyone who likes them - although the North/Johan SL still got about half of the episode, they had exactly two very short scenes together, barely a minute - at the beginning and at the end.

If Johan and North are supposed to be a main couple, I really hope that episodes 12 to the end will be about them only, because Hill and Ter had the first 5 episodes only for themselves. The Hill/Ter misunderstanding has been cleared up, now they only have to tell their families to leave them alone (hopefully they will in the next episode) and we can finally shift to the couple I've been wanting to see since I started this.

I never thought I would love this as much as a do! If it stays like this until the end, it will be joining my list of my favourite BLs ever and my second favourite for this year.

I love that Style is not stupid and very perceptive, I love that Bison is not as gullible and naive as he looks, I love that Fadel is so right to be suspicious of both Kant and Style, but no one listens to him, and I love how both brothers managed to completely take their deceiving respective love interests by surprise, turn the situation around and get what they wanted. Yes, it was clear that both Style and Kant did not enjoy the sex and I don't think they were supposed to.

Also, the show is so funny, I've been laughing for three episodes straight. More of this, please!

First and Khao have always been excellent actors (at least since I've been watching them), so no surprise here, but this is the first time I'm really impressed by both Dunk and Joong, they are nailing their roles and are honestly stealing the show for me, although I love both couples. The scene about the dog and the faces both Joong and Dunk were making will stay with me for a while, it was gold.

Thank you so much!!!

Can I second the request for a direct link to episode 2 for the unfortunate amongst us who have paid for a VIP and still can't access the episode on IQIYI without VPN and direct link to it? Pretty please?

Objectively seen, this was bad, and yet I couldn't stop watching. Don't ask me why, I can't tell you. The main couple and the side couple were a mess, the acting was off, the plot was ridiculous, and still, here I am, totally sad it's over. The actors were all very good looking, I'll give them that.

Pat had the patience and understanding of a saint, the desperation was real, and yet I still found myself rooting for him, no idea why, because I found Elyes unbearable most of the time. Maybe it's because there's no one in the world who would tolerate him, or so I thought, until in the last episode, Kim turned up and confessed to him. What was that about?

Talking about poor Kim, I felf for his character the most. He was handsome and kind, and yet they used him purely to make Pat jealous. He had no other purpose in this series.

Anyway, I can't wait for the special episode of this delightful, entertaining disaster of a series.

Edit: I think I've figured out why I couldn't stop watching this. I used to watch "Guiding Light" as a teenager. It must've rubbed off on me somehow. It's the melodramatic plot and acting, it's very soap-opera-like.

Thank you very much! This is exactly how I solved the problem.

I'm in Germany. I have a VIP, but it's blocked for me anyway. I found a solution, though, thank you! VPN set in the US and it worked.

Where are you watching this? It's blocked for me on IQIYI and I can't find a link on YouTube.