ashesinthewind

Yes, please. This is so much better than what they gave them this year.

This is the first time I'm really, really excited about a ForceBook new series. I'm very glad this doesn't look like a romantic comedy, but something more serious. Together with the SeaKeen and GeminiFourth series, this is the one I'm actually most excited about.

Bas is so good, an absolute delight to watch. ❤

I see some people don't agree, but given the situation, North is behaving pretty reasonably and responsible to me and given how Johan ordered him around, he was way more calm about it than many people would've been. Everyone would've lost their temper if forced to make the same cup of coffee so many times.

I guess at some point, if Johan keeps behaving the way he does, North will probably notice that money isn't what Johan wants, but we haven't come as far yet.

I can't get that mad at Johan even though I understand why people have problems with his behaviour, because the moments when he gets all soft on North make up for it, like he so clearly wanted to stay there with him while North was making the coffee and at the end, because he was honesty worried about North. He's not approaching North in the right way, but I guess that at this point, he knows North is not into him and hopes that North would start liking him if he forces him to spend time with him. Obviously, it's going to take more than just that.

Well, it's obvious how ridiculous this is and IMO this is exactly what they are trying to show. I'm sure all cups of coffee North made (with the exception of the last one :)) tasted exactly the same and Johan, being dumb and not knowing how to keep North around for longer, pretended they tasted any different than if he himself would've made them. It was an excuse to make him stay longer, and a very bad one, but North, being oblivious as hell, didn't catch up on it.

It's so funny because everyone around North (not only Ter, but also his engineering friends) are telling him Johan is hitting on him, but he's choosing to ignore it for now, probably because he still has no feelings for Johan.

Well, Johan, you can't have it both ways, you know. First you make him think he owes you a lot of money in order to keep him close, and then you're sulking because he tries to his best to pay you back. He doesn't know why you're doing what you're doing. Your actions brought him to that bar.

That being said, I adore Johan and North and their chemistry and this was my favourite episode so far. I still like North best, but Johan's growing on me, although he's coming on a little too strong at times. But they are both cute and hilarious and I'm enjoying them very much.

So Ter and Hill confessed, but are not together yet? Please make it make sense. :(

I mostly agree with you, actually, although with some reservations. I want to clarify:

1. I don't get why Ter is shipping North with Johan either, unless Hill has told him something before, because North is definitely not into Johan yet, he clearly stated to his friends that he has seen a side of him that is not swoonworthy and that he doesn't care that someone is good-looking and rich if that person has indebted him. Johan will have to put some work here and I personally like this. We already have a couple (Hill and Ter) who were both into each other from the beginning and I like that Johan and North have different dynamics and Johan's feelings for North are one-sided as for now.
2. Ter might be annoying with his shipping, but Hill was the one who actively sold his boyfriend's best friend to his friend without missing a beat. I highly doubt North would've ended up breaking expensive wine bottles and puking on expensive clothes if Hill and Ter had gone to pick him up and bring him to his dorm. There's nothing expensive he would've ruined there. I put the responsibility on Hill and not so much on Ter here.
3. I don't want to defend Johan and I get he's using his wealth to get what he wants, but North was the one who started the fight and he would've been held responsible for the mess he caused in any country. As he himself said, he would've had to pay for the damage in the bar or at least some of it, medical bills, etc. What Johan basically did is clear up the mess in the bar for him and pay the other parties off so they'd leave North alone, and therefore become the only person North is indebted to. Of course, whether this is for better or worse for North, he himself doesn't know, but we do, we're watching BL after all. I bet that Johan will not take any money from North and will use the situation to force North to get to know him and eventually like him, so all of this makes me accept that situation more easily than I would normally.
4. That being said, I absolutely feel for North and can understand why he's not ready to warm up to Johan yet. For such a young person who's struggling with money to begin with, to suddenly find himself in such a situation must be terrifying. I saw a complaint somewhere that North wanted to talk only about debt and interest in episode 7. Um, what else is he supposed to do, a debt of over 10000 € is not to be taken lightly. The Johan/North story, from what I've seen, will be slow-burn and I personally think that under the circumstances it can't be anything else.

North and Johan have my whole heart, I love them so much!

And I really like that North is not swooning over Johan's good looks, but will make him work to win him over. North is by far my favourite character, I find him very charming and natural.

I'm repeating myself, but unlike many, I love the series, it's cute and it makes me smile. :)

I was curious and checked how much money North owes Johan in a currency which value I can understand. It's over 10600 € and this is quite a lot of money. North is lucky Johan seems to be gone for him already. :)

Yes, there's no other explanation for the video with Mas with it and for the e-mail if Khem was indeed dead. The only explanation is that Khem never died and we ended up watching the story we saw him writing during the entire time he was in the house, only that not a ghost has been writing it, but a real person; the protagonist of the story was a ghost, but not the one who actually wrote it. We were inside Khem's written story, not in the real world.

After thinking a little more about it, this is my theory: if we separate ghost!Khem's story completely from the story of the Khem we saw at the end of episode 10 - first in the library when he bumped into Mas from 2020 and then when Toh asked him to go with them to Chiang Mai - the story does make sense.

I think what happened is that Khem, who is a talented writer and loves history and Chiang Mai, met Mas by accident with his Shakespeare book (who, as we know, likes writing tragic and impossible love stories) and either was attracted immediately to him or found him memorable enough to incorporate him into his story later. Then he got invited to accompany the other 4 to visit that historical house and write about it in order to promote it. As we saw in episode 1, he started visiting the library in Chiang Mai and learned some things about the history of the house and the people who have lived in it. Inspired and after the road accident, which definitely happened, although no one died, he created the entire story we saw, imagining himself as the main protagonist and choosing the boy with the Shakespeare book (yes, there has to have been some attraction, otherwise it would make no sense) as his love interest in an impossible love story that happened and was connected to the house he's supposed to promote. The baby Mas named after the moon at the end was still part of the story and therefore ghost!Khem's story ended up having a hopeful, although open, ending for the mains.

Outside Khem's story, the real Khem probably has approached Mas from 2020 and asked him to help him with the video in order to make the story he wrote a little livelier. Whether they would end up together or not in the real world is open for interpretations. :)

The first episode was basically a copycat of the Thai original, but I liked the changes in the second one. It seems (although I might be wrong) that the biggest change will be that they won't be splitting the two couples completely like they did in the Thai series, because Fuma and Kai already met in this episode and I suspect the ONS will be moved to next week's episode unlike in the Thai original, where Sky and Prapai didn't meet on screen before episode 8, although their story had already started. If so, I'm all for it.

I ended up liking this way more than I expected, considering the first episode was a little slow for me. The show got better as it progressed.

The ending was probably meant to be confusing and there is not a right or wrong answer, unless the script writers reveal it to us, but it seems to me that everything that happened was made up and scripted by Khem, because he loves writing, history, Chiang Mai, bumped into an attractive boy in the library who likes Shakespeare and used him as an inspiration for his story after completing the mission with the other 4 people in Chiang Mai. This is my interpretation of the ending.

I was a big fan of Bing and Toh and would've loved to see them together once again. This is probably the only thing I actively missed.

But anyway, it was a good mystery series and I'm glad I watched it.

Johan is acting strange, like he's been into North for some time, although North said he doesn't know him and they just met once before. I hope there will be some explanation.

The good thing is that Johan's seen the worst of North already and if he still wants him, then it has to be real love. ;)

I think it's related to playing some of the "cute" moments. The dog is absolutely cute, there's no denying that. 😉

Yeah, Bing and Toh died holding hands... heartbreaking. So sad things were left unsaid between them before it was too late.

Unfortunately, I can't really help you, they were two or three shorts on YouTube, no idea about the quality of the translations. In this thread on tumblr you can find some of the things he said, though: https://www.tumblr.com/ddanadeai/765914184705769472

I think it's a little sad that so few people are watching this. True, the love story leaves to be desired, but the plot is very different from your usual BL show and I was anticipating every week to see what is going to happen. If you can get through the first episode, which is longer and more detailled than it should be (but it's important anyway so try to push through), I can recomment watching this, just for the plot.

Well, I think one of the many reasons why Tian absolutely adores and admires Wang is exactly because unlike Tian, who has closed up after his parents treated him the way they did, Wang hasn't lost his positive, open and curious personality, despite having no mother and an absentee father. It's very interesting because they both have experienced similar issues with their parents in their childhood, although for different reasons, but their reactions to them are very different.

Sheng Wang is way more than just a cute big baby; in fact, he's the one who moves the Wang/Tian relationship forward and makes the decisions; Tian just follows his lead. :-) They made a very valid and important point in episode 12: Wang is a brave person. If he hadn't tried to break the ice between them despite Tian's initial treatment of him and hadn't opened up in episode 3, they would've never come as far as they did.

Episode 3 is one of my favourites for many reasons, but LDQ's nuanced performance when he was trying to approach a boy who was somehow hostile, but still letting him tag along and still helping him is probably the biggest of them. He managed to portray feelings of confusion, frustration, sadness, real pain, apprehension, eagerness, hope, disappointment and so on and while drunk, he was opening up to Tian, telling him off, making demands and being cute all at once... best thing ever.

I watched parts of his live (the ones I could find with subs) and this guy loves Sheng Wang and seems to have really taken his time to understand the character and it shows on screen. I'm not saying he gets no recognition, because he does, I just feel it could be more.

My humble opinion is that LDQ deserves more credit for his immaculate portrayal of Sheng Wang than he gets.