I'm missing the point of the first part of episode 9. I get that they wanted to deal with Vee's inferiority complex, but it didn't do the job. If it was done for the laughs, it didn't work, too. I liked the tiny Yoo/Kamphan moment, though.
Stop calling Mark a girlfriend or a wife, plz. He very obviously isn't the one or the other. If I wanted to watch a heterosexual romance, I just need to turn on the TV. Or go to the cinema. Chances are that any movie I would watch, no matter the genre, would have a bit of heterosexual romance thrown in. In a homosexual romance, I accept the terms wife and girlfriend only if I'm watching a f/f romance. This one isn't it.
I enjoyed the second part of episode 9, though, especially the conversation in the Japanese restaurant. And the ending before Mark's parents came it. ;)
I'm going to wait until next week for episode 10, because I don't want this series to end yet.
Edit: it seems that the wife comment bothers a lot of people here. This is obviously my personal opinion, which I'm definitely not imposing on anyone.
This is my most anticipated series for August together with The Eclipse, but in the introduction video Peat said Sky and Prapai would meet only halfway across the series. This is really disappointing , because I thought both couples would be given the same amount of screen time and was very happy about that, I like having two main couples instead of a main and a side couple. So, if I got that right, Sky and Prapai would both be main characters from the beginning but will meet later in the series. Too bad. Or maybe (hopefully) the first half of the series will be about Rain and Phayu and then the second half about Sky and Prapai.
tbh i think how mark reacted was valid, vee hurt him a few times before too and if i was in his situation i would've…
I don't know how obvious it was Ploy was initiating the kiss, I have no clear opinion on that, but Vee just stood there without pushing her away for at least 15 seconds... and this is a long time. Everybody has an opinion, of course, and mine is that Mark was right to break it off, considering Vee's previous treatment of him.
Because I don't think they are allowed to share it cause normally it will just air this Saturday. So maybe even…
It would've been better if that option wasn't available and they would just continue with the normal airing schedule, to be honest. Now twitter is full with spoilers for episode 9, even though not everyone can or wants to pay to see it in advance. It will be even worse on Saturday with episode 10.
tbh i think how mark reacted was valid, vee hurt him a few times before too and if i was in his situation i would've…
Absolutely! In episode 4 Vee came back together with Ploy without telling Mark at all. He didn't even bother to text him, instead he just paraded with her in front of Mark after asking him to wait for Vee to break up with her. Seriously, the scene in episode 8 at Mark's door with Pack was indeed brutal and I felt sorry for Vee, too, but it doesn't mean he hadn't done the same thing to Mark already and didn't deserve it. He himself said he finally knew how Mark must've felt.
is mark officially an alcoholic because he be blacking out too much for my liking ? and why did he seem disappointed…
We had the same happen to Vee in episode 4, when Mark was the one to bring him drunk and passed out home and take care of him. Both have a drinking problem IMO and this is why the series is rated 18+. Drinking seems to be a general problem in BLs, the characters drink a lot. Or maybe this is my very subjective impression as an almost non-drinker, but I don't like it either, especially considering how young these characters are.
A whole episode from Mark's POV... I'm in heaven. Again, I adored the new episode and couldn't put it down, it was thrilling and exciting from the beginning to the end. Episode 8 hurt a lot and I felt all of it, they were so good. Great actors, please more!
Mark's father sucks so much. No wonder Mark comes across as needy sometimes, with him practically having just one caring parent.
This continues to be my favourite BL series for this year, and now I'm convinced more than ever it's mainly because of the flawless acting, the chemistry between the mains and me loving both of them for different reasons and in a different way, because they are portrayed like real people with their good and bad traits.
Two things I wanted and got: it was Vee who explained to Mark what had happened with Ploy, and they sort of reconciled at the end of this episode and the issue won't be dragged to the very last episode. Hurra!
This is my most anticipated GMMTV series for this year together with Never Let Me Go, so I'm absolutely excited it's finally coming! I love the new trailer as much as I loved the teaser. After all, I'm watching BL primerly for the romance. *shrugs*
Next episode is going to be angsty. I hope something leads Mark to a place where he's at least ready to listen…
Yeah, I saw the preview and really hope Mark won't go too far with his ex just to spite Vee, it would be very contraproductive. But I have faith in him and think he'll calm down at some point, but it will take time indeed, he's really hurt and we know he tends to lash out when he sees no other way to deal with the pain.
I finally got to watch episode 7 and I think it's my favourite together with episodes 2 and 3. It was engaging from the beginning to the end, and the acting was flawless.
Although Vee didn't do anything wrong except not pushing Ploy away more resolutely, I absolutely sympathise with Mark and can understand his reaction. The best moments of the episode apart from the honeymoon scenes were the scenes with Mark being absolutely over the moon with happiness while waiting for Vee and preparing for their life together (the clothes, the toothbrush, the photos, the mugs OMG) and the scene with Mark and Nuea crying together. I got goosebumps when watching these moments, they were played so well. I can't blame Mark for the way he reacted, but I can't help but feel sorry for Vee, too. His character has grown on me a lot in the recent episodes, because he's actually really caring and compassionate, i.e. generally a good person, but his inferiority complex, his impulsiveness and his inclination to try to satisfy everyone in combination with his good traits lead him to not to be able to put clear boundaries when needed, because he doesn't want to hurt anyone, which of course results into a bigger disaster. I absolutely loved the ending of the episode, go Vee!
I really hope they won't drag the reconciliation until the very last episode, because even though he deserves some of it, I don't want to see Vee suffer too much. And he probably will, given how possessive he was of Mark and how Mark seems determined to move on. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a reconciliation at the end of episode 8 or the beginning of episode 9, because I want to see them grow together as a couple before the series ends.
At first, i was hesitant to watch this series, probably for the reason that it might have same plot as the other…
IA absolutely! I realise the plot is not the best and we've seen all of it before, but this is still by far my favourite BL series from this year. I think it's the way it's done (writing, cinematography) in combination with the amazing acting and the crazy chemistry between the mains. Also, both Mark and Vee are written like real people with their positive and negative traits which makes me relate to both of them, although in a different way.
It's quite interesting that Vee is so possessive of Mark and gets jealous everytime someone approaches him, because he wasn't like that with Ploy at all. If it's because of lack of trust, they have a long way to go.
I don't know if Mark's easy, but the guy with the girlfriend certainly didn't put up much of a fight the night they slept together and afterwards he was the one who kept running after Mark. Me thinks Vee is confusing Mark with himself. :D That punch was very deserved.
I think the writing is almost perfect, and directing and acting match it. This series makes watching some others…
Check Out is simply bad, and boring on top of that, with unlikable characters. I can't explain to myself why I'm still watching it. No comparison here.
KinnPorsche is good, but not as good as many paint it to be. The plot in the last six or so episodes is a mess, and I find Vegas more compelling than Kinn, and this is saying something, because Vegas is a despicable character. Here, I'd die for Mark, and Vee is the compelling character I wanna see, without being despicable.
The beginning is different + it has more flashbacks + has 3 extras scenes (in the pool; at Vee's house in the…
There was IMO one significant change from the original episode, at the very end. In the episode that first aired, after the forced kiss, Mark just told Vee "I hate you!" and left. In the director's cut, Vee asks him "Do you still think I hate you?" after the kiss before Mark says "I hate you!" and leaves. This little change makes the scene's vibe completely different to me, because Vee basically admitted that he doesn't hate Mark and this is significant and shouldn't have been cut.
The pool scene and the new beginning are the highlights to me, too, but I also liked that they showed the scene when Bar told Vee about Mark's confession. That scene was completely cut from the episode that first aired and even though Vee told Mark Bar had told him, again, it's a different matter to experience Vee's reaction live than just being told about it. It makes his actions more understandable and relatable.
Correct, one of the major mindfucks for Vee, is that he feels he has no right to express a lot to Mark being as…
Oh, I understand., thanks for the clarification! I haven't read the book and I'm not sure I want to, if their story starts with rape. Drunk sex I can deal with, but not rape.
Vee is coming off a 3 year relationship with Ploy.He had a night with Mark, (drunk or nearly drunk, whatever).It…
Yes, part of Vee's problem seems to be that he's willing to ignore his own feelings and needs in order to make Ploy happy, out of sense of duty and habit, because they've been together for so long. This is understandable, BTW, giving up a three-year-relationship for a new love with someone who's recently been in love with someone else is not easy and most people would react the same way. But he should've told Mark about it and he didn't. :(
Stop calling Mark a girlfriend or a wife, plz. He very obviously isn't the one or the other. If I wanted to watch a heterosexual romance, I just need to turn on the TV. Or go to the cinema. Chances are that any movie I would watch, no matter the genre, would have a bit of heterosexual romance thrown in. In a homosexual romance, I accept the terms wife and girlfriend only if I'm watching a f/f romance. This one isn't it.
I enjoyed the second part of episode 9, though, especially the conversation in the Japanese restaurant. And the ending before Mark's parents came it. ;)
I'm going to wait until next week for episode 10, because I don't want this series to end yet.
Edit: it seems that the wife comment bothers a lot of people here. This is obviously my personal opinion, which I'm definitely not imposing on anyone.
Mark's father sucks so much. No wonder Mark comes across as needy sometimes, with him practically having just one caring parent.
This continues to be my favourite BL series for this year, and now I'm convinced more than ever it's mainly because of the flawless acting, the chemistry between the mains and me loving both of them for different reasons and in a different way, because they are portrayed like real people with their good and bad traits.
Two things I wanted and got: it was Vee who explained to Mark what had happened with Ploy, and they sort of reconciled at the end of this episode and the issue won't be dragged to the very last episode. Hurra!
Although Vee didn't do anything wrong except not pushing Ploy away more resolutely, I absolutely sympathise with Mark and can understand his reaction. The best moments of the episode apart from the honeymoon scenes were the scenes with Mark being absolutely over the moon with happiness while waiting for Vee and preparing for their life together (the clothes, the toothbrush, the photos, the mugs OMG) and the scene with Mark and Nuea crying together. I got goosebumps when watching these moments, they were played so well. I can't blame Mark for the way he reacted, but I can't help but feel sorry for Vee, too. His character has grown on me a lot in the recent episodes, because he's actually really caring and compassionate, i.e. generally a good person, but his inferiority complex, his impulsiveness and his inclination to try to satisfy everyone in combination with his good traits lead him to not to be able to put clear boundaries when needed, because he doesn't want to hurt anyone, which of course results into a bigger disaster. I absolutely loved the ending of the episode, go Vee!
I really hope they won't drag the reconciliation until the very last episode, because even though he deserves some of it, I don't want to see Vee suffer too much. And he probably will, given how possessive he was of Mark and how Mark seems determined to move on. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a reconciliation at the end of episode 8 or the beginning of episode 9, because I want to see them grow together as a couple before the series ends.
I don't know if Mark's easy, but the guy with the girlfriend certainly didn't put up much of a fight the night they slept together and afterwards he was the one who kept running after Mark. Me thinks Vee is confusing Mark with himself. :D That punch was very deserved.
The kiss at the end was everything. 🥰
KinnPorsche is good, but not as good as many paint it to be. The plot in the last six or so episodes is a mess, and I find Vegas more compelling than Kinn, and this is saying something, because Vegas is a despicable character. Here, I'd die for Mark, and Vee is the compelling character I wanna see, without being despicable.
Only the ending was a little unclear, was there a time skip or did I miss something?
The pool scene and the new beginning are the highlights to me, too, but I also liked that they showed the scene when Bar told Vee about Mark's confession. That scene was completely cut from the episode that first aired and even though Vee told Mark Bar had told him, again, it's a different matter to experience Vee's reaction live than just being told about it. It makes his actions more understandable and relatable.
The pool scene is gold, how could they cut this?