On this forum I see so much negativity about Luke and then I realized these are mostly the people who have read…
Iâm completely on the same page as you. Luke is rude, and unfortunately, that really is part of his personality. đ I do think he has made a genuine effort to change, especially at this stage in his life, and that deserves some credit. But at the same time, effort doesnât automatically make the rudeness okay. I donât think anyone can honestly say that being treated rudely has absolutely zero psychological impact on them.
That said, rudeness can be subtle, or it can be pretty obvious. So, if my boyfriend adopted a female dog, gave her my name, and suddenly the whole world is going around saying, âHey, whatâs the name of the bitch?ââand the answer is always my nameâŠ
And just a word for any guy watching this drama: if a woman in your life is sexually assaulted, limit your actions…
Yes agreed, one can have reasons to protect eachother but if nothing is shared then it's all speculation. My issue isn't that he wasn't informed, my issue is that even when all the legal steps were taken and the aftermath, she didn't discuss anything with him. Eventually he would have found out but he wasn't part of any conversation. Communication is the key. The way Luke is, if she asks him to promise her something, he'd honor it even on his death bed.
I'm not reading the book. but I definitely know he is not a red flag in the drama. He has 1.5 MAJOR flawsHe is…
Sorry, I didnât know! I would have shown up in full armor. đ
And speaking of Lukeââactions speak louder than words.â If someone can only comprehend whatâs explicitly said, then thereâs really no point in trying to reason with them. đ
Actually I like both of them but the forum folks here have presumptions & strong biases mostly due to the novel. I hardly interact here. I saw your comments & thought to join inâ„ïž
On this forum I see so much negativity about Luke and then I realized these are mostly the people who have read…
I'm not going to make you think any different about how you feel for Luke that is shown on tv. We are all entitled to like/dislike/approve/disapprove of any character. For myself, I generally look at what actions are taken by any individual not what they are stating. People can be sweet talkers or sailors, the depth is known through the steps they have taken. As for why he would treat Flora & her friend different. I have observed in real life, we can be very curt, abrupt or even rude with our loved ones e.g our siblings, parents, the closest cousins but will be very courteous to outsiders but on the other hand the care or emotional connection we feel with the same individuals is as strong as our life line. Is this behavior justified, absolutely not and that is why apologizing is the right way and learning to change your ways.
Yup, that's my point. Food for thought- How we process things for female vs men. Imagine if Luke adopted a female dog, named her Flora and someone comments, Flora is the real bitch.
On this forum I see so much negativity about Luke and then I realized these are mostly the people who have read…
Agreed and some bias is justified if a character is displaying certain traits. Here, it seems the heavy weight is from presumptions. Since we are not watching the novel, we should simply take the characters as they are here in the show called Early springâŁïž
And just a word for any guy watching this drama: if a woman in your life is sexually assaulted, limit your actions…
I understand where you are coming from and it's great to give men general advice but then your comment is after the episode and on this forum so sadly, it will go back to Luke & Flora.
I have to say, one thing I must have in a romance drama is fidelity. I love Luan Nian for never thinking of being…
So true! No other woman ever crosses his mind. I still can't get over the longing he had - to be cuddled & wake up next to Tao, following the first night & the dejection he portrayed
The FL is pissing me off more and more with each episode. I am up to Ep 12 halfway thru this ep and I am dropping…
Aah hang in there, it gets worse đ but come on don't run away. Let's watch their character development. If nothing else, it's a good project to develop patience & self restraint from using colorful language
Bueno, en los tres Ășltimos episodios puedo decir que la ediciĂłn/tijeretazos se nota mucho; hay situaciones que…
Agreed 100%. We are not watching the novel. We are watching a show that has taken the inspiration from a novel. That's it. It's up to the production team what they choose to do with the characters. I'm thankful for how great the character development of Luke has been shown here and don't want to dilute my happiness with constant negative remarks originating from the novel's characters
I just cannot with shang zhitao! Luke have given 100% in this relationship, more than what she gives, if they…
On this forum I see so much negativity about Luke and then I realized these are mostly the people who have read the novel or have heard the novel's story so their bias is next level ;)
And just a word for any guy watching this drama: if a woman in your life is sexually assaulted, limit your actions…
Yes, absolutelyâdo not blame the victim. But somehow that principle has been stretched here into âtherefore, no one is allowed to question anything about the relationship.â Those are two completely different conversations.
I am not questioning Floraâs handling of the assault. She defended herself, got herself out of the situation, had a colleague there to support her, and ultimately had the courage to file a formal HR complaint. Good for her. She handled the actual situation exactly as she needed to.
But we are talking about what happens when you are in a relationship.
When Luke asked her directly whether this man had ever made any unwelcome advances, I can understand why she denied it. She had just been through something traumatic, and she wasnât ready to talk about it. Fine. That part I can understand completely.
What I cannot reconcile is what happens afterward. Flora had time to process what happened, put together her statement, identify the circumstances, preserve the recording, have her colleague as an alibi, and make the very deliberate decision to take the matter to HR. That isnât an impulsive five-minute decision. There was clearly thought, planning, and a conscious decision to act.
And somehow, through all of that, Lukeâher supposedly trusted partnerâwas never part of the equation. Not before. Not after. Not even as someone she eventually chose to trust & lean on.
And THAT is my issue.
Because if you have the emotional capacity to formulate a plan, gather evidence, involve HR, and fight for yourselfâwhich again, I applaudâthen at some point, if this man is genuinely your partner, shouldnât he exist somewhere in your emotional universe too?
She doesnât owe Luke disclosure as a victim. But as a person in a relationship, the complete absence of Luke from her thoughts, decisions, and support system says something about the relationship itself.
So yes, donât blame the victim. But letâs also not pretend that being someoneâs partner means being their convenient romantic accessory . What I find difficult is that Luke was someone she leaned onâbut only physically, never truthfully. She sought his comfort, hugged him, held onto him much longer than usual, and clearly found safety in his presence, yet still never trusted him enough to tell him what had happened.
So he gets to be the person she seeks for comfort, but not the person she allows to actually understand why she needs it. And that distinction matters when weâre calling someone your partner.
At some point, you have to decide whether youâre actually in a relationshipâor just occupying the relationship slot.
If Luke is only there when Flora needs him for comfort, companionship, or romance, but disappears from the equation whenever life gets difficult, then Iâm sorry, (to me) that's not much of a partnership.
I'm not reading the book. but I definitely know he is not a red flag in the drama. He has 1.5 MAJOR flawsHe is…
Hey there, I saw this earlier, and Iâm actually glad you see it the same wayâhis jealousy and his inability to openly admit what he feels.
Luke is a man of layers. On the surface, he says all the arrogant, dismissive things, but his actions tell an entirely different story. Flora is constantly at the center of his thoughts, even when he tries desperately to convince himselfâthat she isnât.
Itâs the same pattern we saw that first night. He was secretly looking forward to waking up next to her and being cuddled in the morning, but the moment reality didnât unfold the way he had imagined, out came that familiar arrogant facade. đ He immediately hid behind his sarcasm and indifference rather than let her see how much her presence actually mattered to him.
Thatâs what makes Luke so fascinating. His mouth keeps saying, âI donât care,â while his actions keep exposing just how deeply he does. The arrogance is often the mask; the tenderness, jealousy, protectiveness, and the way he instinctively puts Flora first are the real LukeâŁïž
That said, rudeness can be subtle, or it can be pretty obvious. So, if my boyfriend adopted a female dog, gave her my name, and suddenly the whole world is going around saying, âHey, whatâs the name of the bitch?ââand the answer is always my nameâŠ
Well, your honor, I rest my case.
And speaking of Lukeââactions speak louder than words.â If someone can only comprehend whatâs explicitly said, then thereâs really no point in trying to reason with them. đ
Actually I like both of them but the forum folks here have presumptions & strong biases mostly due to the novel. I hardly interact here. I saw your comments & thought to join inâ„ïž
I am not questioning Floraâs handling of the assault. She defended herself, got herself out of the situation, had a colleague there to support her, and ultimately had the courage to file a formal HR complaint. Good for her. She handled the actual situation exactly as she needed to.
But we are talking about what happens when you are in a relationship.
When Luke asked her directly whether this man had ever made any unwelcome advances, I can understand why she denied it. She had just been through something traumatic, and she wasnât ready to talk about it. Fine. That part I can understand completely.
What I cannot reconcile is what happens afterward. Flora had time to process what happened, put together her statement, identify the circumstances, preserve the recording, have her colleague as an alibi, and make the very deliberate decision to take the matter to HR. That isnât an impulsive five-minute decision. There was clearly thought, planning, and a conscious decision to act.
And somehow, through all of that, Lukeâher supposedly trusted partnerâwas never part of the equation. Not before. Not after. Not even as someone she eventually chose to trust & lean on.
And THAT is my issue.
Because if you have the emotional capacity to formulate a plan, gather evidence, involve HR, and fight for yourselfâwhich again, I applaudâthen at some point, if this man is genuinely your partner, shouldnât he exist somewhere in your emotional universe too?
She doesnât owe Luke disclosure as a victim. But as a person in a relationship, the complete absence of Luke from her thoughts, decisions, and support system says something about the relationship itself.
So yes, donât blame the victim. But letâs also not pretend that being someoneâs partner means being their convenient romantic accessory .
What I find difficult is that Luke was someone she leaned onâbut only physically, never truthfully. She sought his comfort, hugged him, held onto him much longer than usual, and clearly found safety in his presence, yet still never trusted him enough to tell him what had happened.
So he gets to be the person she seeks for comfort, but not the person she allows to actually understand why she needs it. And that distinction matters when weâre calling someone your partner.
At some point, you have to decide whether youâre actually in a relationshipâor just occupying the relationship slot.
If Luke is only there when Flora needs him for comfort, companionship, or romance, but disappears from the equation whenever life gets difficult, then Iâm sorry, (to me) that's not much of a partnership.
Luke is a man of layers. On the surface, he says all the arrogant, dismissive things, but his actions tell an entirely different story. Flora is constantly at the center of his thoughts, even when he tries desperately to convince himselfâthat she isnât.
Itâs the same pattern we saw that first night. He was secretly looking forward to waking up next to her and being cuddled in the morning, but the moment reality didnât unfold the way he had imagined, out came that familiar arrogant facade. đ He immediately hid behind his sarcasm and indifference rather than let her see how much her presence actually mattered to him.
Thatâs what makes Luke so fascinating. His mouth keeps saying, âI donât care,â while his actions keep exposing just how deeply he does. The arrogance is often the mask; the tenderness, jealousy, protectiveness, and the way he instinctively puts Flora first are the real LukeâŁïž