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this episode made me realize how calculating and manipulative everyone is... Chon surprised me most of all, to even go through with that plan. Honestly, what Chon and everyone is aiming to do is basically what Amp did - Make Ton jealous.... and I'm sure we all felt that she was manipulative and annoying. Well that is how I'm beginning to see Chon and everyone else, they are on the same level as Amp. Like MoonOverStar said, they were practically forcing Ton to come out or something. Super uncomfortable and another scream of how toxic this is.

The only thing I enjoyed of ep 6 was Ton's reaction when watching SOTUS, the way he smiled while watching it.

ps. also shout out to the mom regarding the issue of consent. makes me wonder how they can have lines where kissing someone without consent is wrong yet in the same episode show sexual assault.

thanks for clarifying!

that car accident scene for Peud seemed he died or something but then hes not? I mean they never showed the body but IDK what that scene was about. He's just missing as of now, right? Low-key feeling like he staged the whole thing tho.

ep 3 confusion, can someone clear it up for me?

although the plot is a bit boring, I really love how each ep, we get to see Type's character development. He's grown so much, and his little outburst towards the end is the most relatable shit ever. And I found it really surprising that Tharn gave some personal space to Type as well because thats all he needs. He vented and now he needs his own space to take a step back and recompose. Tharn respected that and went back when Type was ready to talk again. Also bonus points for Type learning how to apologize.

"I don't mind rape if they end up together in the end... "

oh wait thats practically what happened, considering all the sexual assault that went on.

just gonna say sorry in advance because the above sounds like I'm attacking you but It's just me and my sarcasm.

I didn't know you liked watching homophobes for 10 mins straight, good to know.
I rather watch mature and responsible type instead.

I won't lie, I agree with you this season is a bit boring. But I still believe its way better than what they gave us in s1.

I don't think you understand what I'm getting at.

I get it, I wasn't saying they have to be accepting of it. I was pointing out how their support isn't coming from a place of love. Is it really support if they phrase it as "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS?" and potentially adding doubt when they SHOULD be saying is "You have us no matter what [society] says". Instead of asking " Is your love for Itt strong enough to overcome challenges?" they should have said "No matter what challenges you face, we are here to support you". Hope that makes sense. Also, I acknowledge that happens irl so its believable. I never said they should follow western media, I was just saying how I felt they were asking all the wrong questions to show their new learned support for Pai.

and for Pai... being weak and unable to stand up for himself IN THE FINALE is not ok.... unless I'm stupid, I thought the whole point was Pai learning self love and confidence. Hence Itt's constant "bullying" to put Pai in uncomfortable situations. That shows he has no character development. He was a kid who never acted out against his parents in EP 1, he SHOULD NOT still be the same kid (especially after going through HS and into College) in the final ep.

and same tbh, I didn't care for pure/folk as well. I only watched for Itt/Pai but at one point it became too boring and cringe. especially when I can't even sympathize with any of the characters.

This post ISN'T telling you what you can or can not like, what you should or should not find humorous, or that you should or shouldn't watch this series. also its a long one.

Actually I'm taking a college course in Humor and Laughter right now and just like what y'all pointed out, humor can be used to shame or humiliate someone. But on the other hand, it could also be used as a tool to gain acceptance and agreeance. Say, a speaker says something funny and you laughed, in order words, you subconsciously agree with the speaker even though you don't vocalize it or if asked if you agree, you may not acknowledge it. (give it a sec for that to sink in, it makes sense right?)

Humor can also be used as a tool to gain attention. But what does this show do with the attention we've given it? well nothing meaningful that's for sure. For example, ep1 when Chon was molested, the scene after he had a talk with Ton. About how, NOT ALL GAYS are bad people etc. That is meaningful even though Chon was testing Ton rather than coming from a place that wants to educate him. So i was expecting ep 3 for Ton to apologize or have Chon point out how it wasn't cool to force your friend to do something they have not given consent to. But what did we get? more "humorous" jokes from Ton imitating Chon after creepily eavesdropping. What we don't get is the meaningful conversation that comes after the audience gives them the attention.

i get it's supposed to be funny. I get it's satiric and ironic and what not. But that doesn't mean I have to laugh at it or find it funny. If Ton were to start spewing nonsense like how he thinks rapists and murderers should be praised and his friends look at him like "uhmmm" but smiling as if they agree just as how they do when he spews homophobic and toxic masculinity lines, will you find that funny?

So don't tell us the obvious, we know its "humor and supposed to be funny". But we're just addressing it because it's not funny to us so you don't have to act as if we're stupid that we don't realize its humor and finding the need to point it out. We point it out because, again, there were not any meaningful conversations between the characters. Below are 3 examples, one from each episode I found disturbing and not funny.

Having a feminine gay Molest someone then later saying "IM JUST A GIRL DON'T HURT ME" is NOT funny. That is problematic on multiple layers; first molesting someone is not humorous in any way, 2nd thai BL have a tendency to portray darker skinned folks as the "villain" so to speak, and lastly it feeds into the "gay people are predators" stereotype. This is a issue of misrepresentation. (ep1)

Pushing your friend (chon) into a room with a stranger you (ton) picked out even tho the friend (chon) is EXPLICITLY saying "NO" IS NOT funny. Then later making fun of it by imitating it is NOT funny. This is an issue of consent. (ep2)

finding the need to "BUY" a fake girlfriend just to prove to your over the top masculine friend that you're 100% most definitely straight is NOT funny. That is a toxic relationship. (ep3)

I'll give you your "its satire" when Ton spews his problematic lines and it's supposed to be ironic. But the three that stood out to me (and I'm sure theres more) that I find problematic about this show is not just THAT SIMPLE. BUT the stuff I listed above shouldn't even be humorous, PERIOD.

We have identified that Humor is a tool that is used in writing, BUT it should never overshadow the plot to the point where it hurts the actual story. That is the issue we're pointing out. Not just because we have no sense of humor.

EDIT: also, as we have established, Humor can be used to SHAME. That is the point of this show. This show doesn't aim to EDUCATE but rather to SHAME (at least thats the vibe I'm getting) which is why it's toxic.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk and reading thus far!

Lost all respect for Pai as soon as he "Agreed" to his parents. How can someone who has no form of self confidence and self respect since HS, since ep1 be the same person at the finale, meaning he had no character development. I don't expect him to suddenly understand his sexuality but didn't he like Itt ever since HS or at least develop feelings? How was it so easy that you could agree to your mother, "YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO CHANGE, YOU'RE STILL YOUNG" without vocalizing any form of resistance is beyond me. How can you respect someone who has no respect for them self? Although I don't agree with Itt's methods in pushing Pai here and there through bullying, it goes to show it wasn't effective nor did he learn anything from it. I felt no sympathy for him when he cried in his room nor when he cried in front of his parents as if that will do anything.

Half way through when his parents finally became more open, I felt they were asking all the wrong questions. Its not about society and the challenges, it's not about Itt's love for Pai is strong enough, it's not about if Pai will regret this in the future. BUT RATHER, its about YOUR (the parents) love for Pai and supporting him regardless of society, the challenges, his relationship with Pai, or if he later regrets this. They were literally scaring the poor boy all over again with the what ifs, but not comforting him with their support? Also brings me back why I have no respect for Pai is because he gets shit handed to him. He didn't have to advocate for himself (which I thought was the whole point in Itt's influence on him). Itt went to talk to his parents. His parents went to seek outside advise. But what did Pai do thats not crying? IDK you tell me.

:) thanks, I hope you find something to enjoy soon as well. I do agree with you that they need more drama to happen to the main CP, its been 3 eps and all we established is the marriage issue lol... they definitely added too many side CPs tht not many ppl care about.

I guess I didn't like the 1st season at all so anything in the 2nd season was basically way better. but the parts I don't skip are the parts you talked about when type is at work etc. Because I find those scenes are when they show Type's character development. How he's no longer this hot headed brat who is self centered and finally takes on some responsibility as an adult. in comparison.. tharn is still the same so i skip his scenes and everyone elses. and nothings been interesting to you? not even how the potential issue of marriage/coming out might change their relationship? I find this way more interesting than what S1 offered... other than toxic jealous Exes and creepy friend who deserved to be locked up which was completely unrealistic IMO. Everything else was literally just sex in S1... this season, not so much. but to each their own.

LOL why some of y'all got this twisted.. this season had just as many NC or kiss scenes as the first season.... if anything, the first season was literally only just lust and sex keeping the "plot" going. at least this season they had more things going on, a little too much tho. IDC about the doc and champ, IDC about the neigbor, IDC about tht one P' who's nosey af and especially don't care about Thorn and his ... GF?? who looked like could've been his mother... Tho fiat and leo's relationship is somewhat interesting because it seems like Fiat is playing leo but idk will have to see if he's serious with Type. Type being busy with work and stuff didn't get much going on with Tharn but thats expected when youre adults, you don't spend 24/7 with your partner. Literally everything this season is more realistic and more drama (fiat liking? type, techno gonna spread false info.. etc)

As much as I want to enjoy this series... it's just too problematic. The "humor" isn't funny at all but rather suffocating... it completely kills the mood. You can say that it will set up for Ton's character development but the way they try to play it off as a joke is so inappropriate. This is giving me TharnType vibes all over again.

Im sad not because of the ending but because S1 is over :(

This series was simply too good, to call it a series is an understatement. It's a pure masterpiece. and I believe the reason why it's good is because this was a series made by a member of the LGBTQ community for the community where we are the target audience contrast to the usual thai BL. It deals with many issues we are all able to relate to in some form. Each character is fleshed out. Every action and detail is important. The ost is amazing. Everything down to the last detail was PERFECT. I thank you from the bottom of my heart to everyone who made Gaya Sa Pelikula possible!

Right?!! that wifey shit is super annoying IMO. You do have a point... it shouldn't take 7 years to know what each other want... tbh I'm not even seeing this from the perspective that they been together for 7+ years... it feels like they just graduated College with how they've been behaving. at this point Im super convinced she writes these unnecessary bickering just so they can beg for each other's forgiveness and have makeup sex after... which is not cute.

i felt that as well. It feels like Tharn honestly isn't listening to Type at all. Type mentions his stress about work and the issue with his boss, Tharn wants sex. Type tries to explain why he was upset with Tharn with the ironing clothes situation, THARN WANTS SEX. Type tries to talk to Tharn about why he isn't considering marriage, THARN SULKS AND THE NEXT DAY... HE WANTS MAKE UP SEX.

Was it just me or did anyone feel that.

omg I feel that.. every time they have intimate moments it feels like a chore for Type. maybe he's just that exhausted with work and dealing with his ass boss and it really doesn't seem like Tharn wasn't listening to Type when he mentioned it, or was tht just me?

As for the marriage issue, idk if you checked out ep2 yet but Type actually wants to talk to Tharn about it but Tharn literally is sulking and won't talk it out because "they have different perspectives" so it's "useless" to talk about it..... which I don't agree with.

I don't quite agree with everyone saying how it's absurd to not marry after 7 yrs. I mean, personally, I would want to but if Type isn't ready yet or doesn't actually want to consider marriage, then its fine as well, is it not? Just like how in straight relationships if one partner wants kids and the other doesn't then they work it out or break up... but that's just how I see it. I don't think Type HAS to marry Tharn.

Honestly, I've lost all respect for this author after the crap she pulled in LBC 2 with Techno saying " it felt good" (you know what I'm referring to). I dropped the series after that.

I was so hesitant in starting this season after the mess it was that was the first season....
and SOME THINGS DON'T CHANGE but there were things that did. Although you can say they "moved" forward in their relationship... it really hasn't. What I mean by that is how they literally started us off with "who's giving in to who", another thing that hasn't changed is how Tharn is STILL LUSTING after Type after all these years. Just ep 1, we had 3-4 scenes of Tharn making moves onto type, is this necessary? Don't get me started on all the unnecessary bickering. The ironing clothe scene? what the hell was that. Why is communication so hard? And even after communicating, it seems like these boys aren't really listening to one another. Bet you the drama was added just so Tharn can "beg" for Type's forgiveness just to add more "plot-less fluff". Shockingly, I empathize with Type during that scene, usually its the other way around. Tharn was definitely in the wrong for not appreciating the things Type be doing for him regardless of his intentions. And I'm really proud that Type was actually being TRANSPARENT this time. he said" Don't touch me I'm not in a good mood", gives this man a round of applause, finally some character development. Of course Tharn being the creep that he is since S1, has no sense of boundaries and personal space and doesn't listen to Type which landed him a well deserved kick off the bed. Btch if I said don't fcking touch me, THEN DON'T.

Usually I'm a sucker for these kind of stories that delve into a couples life after the initial lovey dovey phase, DBK, TWM:NC, SOTUS S, you get the point. and it seems like they're not going to explore anything new. Notice all three of these titles all focus on the issue of coming out and being open about who you are and your relationship. Sotus S, the OG, was about coming of age(?) and finding one self and how your partner gives you courage and makes you a better person, this is not purely a coming out story. TWM:NC is a story that tells how mistakes can be made and sometimes, if we want to keep the people we love, forgiveness is important, and giving space and recollecting one self is important, if left unchecked, it could lead to strains in the relationship. DBK, classic coming out story with great dialogues regarding the struggles in the LGBTQ+ community although it could do with out the unnecessary drama as well. I'm excited to see where TT2 will bring their story and in what direction will TT's relationship take.

And some of the comment's below talk about how it's absurd to be dating for 7 years and still not out. Well let's not see it from our own perspective but rather Type's. Some may have the privilege to come out while others may not. Whatever happens is ultimately up to Tharn and Type. These issues are real to the LGBTQ+ community and I'm glad this show is finally taking on more of a plot than LUST AND SEX every episode.

on a side note, has the acting/chemistry between the Mew and Gulf lessened (no I'm not referring to the sex scenes)? or was I the only one that felt the acting/their relationship was coming off a bit "off", there's some sort of tension there even in their happy moments. and was it just me or were they talking a BIT slow?

edit: forgot to mention the side CPs because... who are they??? and they really need to stop with the 'wifey" crap. its irritating